Height in Guys vs Body Mass in Girls

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dirtyvibe said:
Do you think that being tall as a man is as important, physical atractiveness-wise, as body mass in females? E.G suppose it corresponded like this:
6'0+ 130 and under
5'10-5'11 130-140
5'9 140
5'8 150
5'7 155
5'6 160
5'5 160-200
5'4 200+

etc.

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As long as they are NOT overly tall...women will always prefer taller men. Something about feeling "protected" (sometimes has to do with peer pressure too)

That said...focus on what you can change. You cannot change your high...but you can INFLUENCE on the way she might feel (protected).
 

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Dead Sexington said:
Definitely not.

Short guys till pull, and short guys can still be very attractive to women. Tom Cruise is 5'7", Usher is like 5'9". I'm aware these guys are attractive (mostly) because of their success, but they still look good.
Those guys have MILLIONS and FAME. That alone adds several inches on them.
 

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Eiljwa said:
That's somewhat comforting. I'm about 5'4", but I'm 16 and that is obviously less than average, I still have time to grow though. I am ok with my self and have accepted that I am going to be short. Height doesn't matter near as much as personality, or even body shape(shoulders bigger than waist, athletic, etc.), I'm sure.
Only problem I have is the really tall guys take all the short girls. Save some for us!
Some, forget about your high...and focus on those things you can control (attitude, success, etc.).

High does matter. Having hair vs. being bold also matters. All those things are physical attributes are matter.

HOWEVER, they can be minimized by showcasing your better attributes.

Short girls will try and go with tall guys NOW. In 10 years, what would matter to them is if you are a true catch. So...focus on making LOT of $$$. Trust me...you can be 5'7" and if you have the attitude and are in shape and have power and $$$...that is going to trunkate a man that is 6'2" and is lazy.
 

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Adone said:
Actually, if you're under 5'11, you DO have a disadvantage, unless your face is handsome. There's no point in arguing that, because evidence is in front of everyone's eyes.

I'm not saying that you will do bad with ladies. I mean, isn't Style like 5'7? You can even become the best seducer in the world, but you surely have a disadvantage compared to taller people, until you become a pro.

5'9" is about average. A man that tall should have NO problems with women that like "taller" man. After all...most women are in under 5'9".

All said...focus on what you can change. I had a very good friend. He was like 5'6" and his attitude and charisma was that of a man that is 6'0". In fact, he "shined" a room with his personallity. He had too.
 

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it also depends on who you hang out with. like if youre hanging out with mexicans and asians, the average height will be lower, and to a lesser extent blacks. in fact, the average us height has actually declined. in the 20s, the avg us guy height was 5'10. most white people today have to be about 5'11 or 6'0 and thats who i mostly hang out with.
 

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dirtyvibe said:
most white people today have to be about 5'11 or 6'0 and thats who i mostly hang out with.
So, you pick your buddies based on their high and NOT based on their character?
 

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The shorter you are, the better looking your face has to be.
 

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I just had to respond to this because it's rubbish:nono: . Until you are a midjet even then it doesn't matter.The guy who said they feel secure when the guy is taller, I think it's when you are mascular they feel secure. Like some poster said ''Attitude" is the key not height.
 

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frivolousz21 said:
i hate defending this because it makes me sound like im whining.

but I think taller guys that cant get laid like to put this rubbish out there.

1. you are right that if u are handsome you have an atvantage...at my height 5 6. being a handsome man is a huge for me...infact..the older I got the more women wanted me..because less girls/woman cared about hegiht..so when I hit 22...I had a ton of women in there 20's wanting me more then they did when I was 18, 19. before that in my teens it didnt matter since a lot of guys were still shorter.

2. its really not that big of a disadvantage....the main think a shorter has to do..IS NOT BE to SKINNY or to FAT. lean muscle mass helps a lot

I agree with you but don't waste your time argueing with keyboard jockeys . I'm short to and I'm seeing changes. A real dj would realize that a man only limit is the limit he makes himself. A keyboard jockey knows really nothing because they aren't in the field . They are behind the computer screen actting like they know what they are talking about when they have no clue. :nono:

Look at my post man. I said allmost the same thing you said and got idoits ignoring it saying it's unture. Don't even waste your time man.
 

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Hey wait.. you're asking other GUYS how much height matters to women. Aren't WOMEN most qualified to answer this? And how do you really ask them given the unclear answers they give? You approach them, sarge up the situation. Let them say yes or no.. but make them answer.

I think the bigger problem here is facing your own fears in approaching, chatting up, etc. This concern about height is probably your own fears talking. Let's put it this way, SOME will find you sexy, I don't care who you are. So, go out there and find them. In the process, you'll learn, raise your confidence, etc.

I'm almost 5'10... that makes me AVERAGE. I've been 20 lbs overweight, and dated some VERY attractive women. Now, my weight is very ideal, I lift weights, I feel buffed; however, the past year sucked... it's only picking up as of late. Go figure. Anyhow, same height all along, different results all along. Run that through your height calculator.
 

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Donsing said:
I just had to respond to this because it's rubbish:nono: . Until you are a midjet even then it doesn't matter.The guy who said they feel secure when the guy is taller, I think it's when you are mascular they feel secure. Like some poster said ''Attitude" is the key not height.
A very muscular man that is 5'5" would look like a troll.

I want to make one thing clear...over 90% of the times, when I write something with certainty is because I have either experienced it or know women opinion on this issue.

I was married for several years. That allowed me to talk with LOT of women (many of which were sisters, cousins, friends of my ex) and they were very open with me. That's an advantage many married men have: women can openly talk to them as friends. Some even confide on them.

Trust me...if you are certain high, you will have LOT of difficulty. The consensus was always if he has to be TALLER! Of course, it is NOT what they say but what they do. And if a man manages to get her attention, then his high won't matter. But he better has "dj" skills on him. Keeping in mind that MANY women care about what their female friends have to say too.

5'8" is average in my eyes. Put that guy ABOVE (in high) other woman. The same can be said with 5'7"...ect.

My point is the same...some things you cannot change. High is one of them. So, you MUST recognize that is an issue with women and you MUST hone your skills in other areas.
 

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Thomas94305 said:
Hey wait.. you're asking other GUYS how much height matters to women. Aren't WOMEN most qualified to answer this? And how do you really ask them given the unclear answers they give? You approach them, sarge up the situation. Let them say yes or no.. but make them answer.
Women can say anything...but their actions speak louder.

Men KNOW...because they are the ones getting rejected. And others might know, because that other man might ask the woman, "Why do you reject him? He seems cool". And her reply could be..."He is too short".

Now...if he come with other things (especially attitude)...he would look like a giant in her eyes.
 

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Blackdragon5095 said:
I agree with you but don't waste your time argueing with keyboard jockeys . I'm short to and I'm seeing changes. A real dj would realize that a man only limit is the limit he makes himself. A keyboard jockey knows really nothing because they aren't in the field . They are behind the computer screen actting like they know what they are talking about when they have no clue. :nono:

Look at my post man. I said allmost the same thing you said and got idoits ignoring it saying it's unture. Don't even waste your time man.

I don't know if you're talking about me when you refer to "keyboard jockeys". Just to clarify, what I meant is that height matters. I know it's just ONE part of the INITIAL attraction, but it matters.
Obviously, when you are a Master Don Juan, you can attract almost any woman and the difference between a 5'6 seducer and a 6'1 is almost none. Actually, at that point you could be better off, if you were shorter than average, because you would look more approachable (it's the same if you have STRONG social proof or a handsome body and beautiful face: perfect is scary).

But if your looks are average and you don't have tight game, it's better to be 6'1 rather than 5'9.

Have I made myself clearer?
 

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Adone said:
I don't know if you're talking about me when you refer to "keyboard jockeys". Just to clarify, what I meant is that height matters. I know it's just ONE part of the INITIAL attraction, but it matters.
Obviously, when you are a Master Don Juan, you can attract almost any woman and the difference between a 5'6 seducer and a 6'1 is almost none. Actually, at that point you could be better off, if you were shorter than average, because you would look more approachable (it's the same if you have STRONG social proof or a handsome body and beautiful face: perfect is scary).

But if your looks are average and you don't have tight game, it's better to be 6'1 rather than 5'9.

Have I made myself clearer?

well....I know that ive seen shorter guys ussually with Hot girls.

I think one thing about it..when I was growing up..I wasnt that much shorter..but in HS everyone got bigger and I didnt. But I felt at that time, that I had to make up for it..and I developed social skills, charm, humor.

but I can honestly say...the deciding factor is being handsome...

if a guy is 6 1 and fugly..and 5 6 and fugly..the taller guy gets the nod.

but if the 5 6 guy is even a little cuter he will get the nod.
women care about face the most
 

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Yeah right guys,...looks don't matter,height doesn't matter,money doesn't matter,right.


:whistle:
 

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for the most part the only time height matters is if you are shorter than the girl you are pursuing

lifting weights does help alot

"A very muscular man that is 5'5" would look like a troll"

bull**** some of the best bodybuilders in the world are only about 5'5

it's better to be 5'5 looking strong and muscular than being 5'5 and weak looking
 

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Silverback82 said:
bull**** some of the best bodybuilders in the world are only about 5'5

One of the huge differences between men and women. Men THINK women care if the guy is a bodybuilder. Dude, they don't. Many even find that a turn off.
 

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frivolousz21 said:
if a guy is 6 1 and fugly..and 5 6 and fugly..the taller guy gets the nod.

but if the 5 6 guy is even a little cuter he will get the nod.
women care about face the most

It depends on how much is "a little". If the 6'1 is a 6 and the 5'6 is a 7, I'd still bet on the tallest one (not taking into account personality and everything, of course), but the difference is bigger, height won't be an issue anymore.

Anyway, as I said, if you are taller, you'll be approached less often, because more girls will be intimidated (regardless if you're a 7 or a 9). Anyway, it will be easier when it's you the one who approaches.
 

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Women don't typically like short, ugly or fat guys...

Fat is the ONLY thing in that group that can be changed.

Suck it up ladies
 

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Latinoman said:
One of the huge differences between men and women. Men THINK women care if the guy is a bodybuilder. Dude, they don't. Many even find that a turn off.

are you seriously arguing that being weak looking can be better than being strong looking?
 

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