Height and Dating: A Message to Men Under 5'8"

[BadBoy89]

There is a large emphasis and advantage derived from height in today’s dating pool. Every girl seems to have a specific height preference. But why? Why is height so important and does it mean, as a man, you can’t date someone taller than you?

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The reason why height seems to be so important in dating is based in genetics, with some influence from evolving social norms. In its basic form, women wanting a taller male partner is rooted in the basic need to feel protected and secure. This was ingrained in us from thousands of years of our shared hunter-gatherer culture. Back when a woman felt safest and had the most food security by partnering with the best hunter, who was typically the biggest. Over thousands of years of social evolution and the decline of hunting and gathering as a way of life, height has somehow maintained its symbolism of personal security and evolved into social power. Even now, studies1 show that a man’s height is correlated to his average salary and position at work; the taller the man (to a point) the higher his salary and/or position is likely to be. Naturally this plays into the attractiveness of someone on the surface, as the ability to provide and protect (both of which can be derived from money) are huge factors in a person’s selection in a mate, whether it is a conscious consideration or not.

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Thoughts?

 

[characternote]

I've always just thought of height as a part of 'looks'.

Different girls might put different weight on things that come under the umbrella of looks (so height, physique, facial handsomeness etc)

If a girl values height a lot in terms of her looks requirements, then you're out of luck with that particular girl if you are a short a$$. I often see things like 'Don't even waste your time swiping on me if you are under 6ft 2' etc haha

But the biggest slayer I know is actually fairly short, although he's exceptionally handsome. I guess it's a bit of a balancing act. We might like girls with big tits, but if she's a bit flat chested but is crazy pretty, we'll still likely be interested (assuming we value a pretty face!)

But in general, I guess my taller friends certainly do better than my shorter friends. It is what it is.

 

[BadBoy89]

I've always just thought of height as a part of 'looks'.

Different girls might put different weight on things that come under the umbrella of looks (so height, physique, facial handsomeness etc)

If a girl values height a lot in terms of her looks requirements, then you're out of luck with that particular girl if you are a short a$$. I often see things like 'Don't even waste your time swiping on me if you are under 6ft 2' etc haha

But the biggest slayer I know is actually fairly short, although he's exceptionally handsome. I guess it's a bit of a balancing act. We might like girls with big tits, but if she's a bit flat chested but is crazy pretty, we'll still likely be interested (assuming we value a pretty face!)

But in general, I guess my taller friends certainly do better than my shorter friends. It is what it is.

Height is up there though.

Girls won’t care if a man is not rich, or even that educated, but if he is not tall, game over.

 

[Gamisch]

Height is up there though.

Girls won’t care if a man is not rich, or even that educated, but if he is not tall, game over.

Partly Bs ( with all due respect).

From 2:00 it starts....SPIRIT!

" a lil MF can have a spirit as vast as the universe, a big MF can have the spirit the size of a grain of corn I'ma dominate his big bytch azz everytime ".

This is for every one claiming and pushing certain members because they supposedly are " big with good physiques" ,yet they haven't managed to get a woman for YEARS(no SPIRIT) ...y'all know who I'm talking about..

 

[TheEveningChronograph]

Look at all this stupid talk!

 

[Stoic]

Of course height is important to a lot of women.

But, this isn’t really actionable. We all need to get the most out of what we’ve got.

Also, we are all packages. Build muscle, become more charismatic, read more books and stack money!

 

[kavi]

Corporate culture is based on fear hence taller more intimidating rise up more. However humanity is not the same and i always argue average height men even same height as women is preferred in todays world as it is easier to connect.

Women may find taller guys intimidating and tbh i definitely at 5 8 feel more confident than 6ft plus guys as women are not intimidated and i dnt need to strain my neck talking to them. Easier to make eye contact and engage socially when u r similar height while the lanky guys are in the clouds having to down.

Modern women dont want to be in world of fear where they need big strong warlike men infact they want to be in a social world where smv is based on other factors.

Women deep down hate the world in which taller men have advantages for instance the corporate world it is just boring and depressing and the violent world where tall men are advantaged because in that world women are weak so women will try to destroy that world.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Height is important more so when she is younger. Money and status are still supreme.

 

[user252009]

Also, we are all packages. Build muscle, become more charismatic, read more books and stack money!

Doesn't matter if they ask you what your height is from the get go and then swipe left when the reality doesn't match their want

 

[DoofusDonutDude]

I mean, yeah i guess odds are stacked against you as a short dude, so what you gonna give up?
I mean, during one of my "down phases" i made a list of things that say a "short game character" would have in our real world:

PLAYER ONE STATS

Looks:
1) Height: 4/10 --> ( Didn't stop a 5'5 Gervonta Davis who knocked out a 5'10 Ryan Garcia or several others , or Audey Murphey who was 5'2-5'4 and the most decorated soldier of all time or Yuri Gagarin who was the first man in space and only 5'2. In fiction, Wolverine is only 5'3 but he slays so many goddesses and queens he's known for it)
2) Face: /10
3) Hair : /10
4) Body: /10
5) Dressing sense: /10
6) Sex Appeal: /10

Personality:
7) Confidence: /10
8) Charisma: /10
9) Competence: /10
10) Dominance (or Leadership) : /10
11) Social skills : /10
12) Emotional Intelligence: /10
13) GAME: /10
14) Intellect/Intelligence : /10

Status:
15) Money: /10
16) Career: /10
17) Lifestyle: /10
18) Social Proof: /10
19) Power: /10


Out of these 19 metrices, if the short dude even has a 2 or a 4 out of 10 in height, he still has 18 metrices he can absolutely master and become a Don Juan who slays. In all of these metrices, except Height, face, hair which are given by nature (but still manageable to a certain extent) all other 16 metrices are still absolutely 100% in your hands.

It's not how big you are, its how big you play.

EDIT: Forgot to add a metric for Sex (how good you are in the sack).

 

[user252009]

None of these numbers mean anything as they're all relative, i.e. Money (10), what does that mean? Same with career? Lifestyle - 10 is what, according to who? What about YOUR own wishes, which can mean staying in most days and doing things society would consider less exciting, does that mean a lower number, so you will range lower just because you choose interests that don't qualify to be on 8, 9 or 10 on some scale?

 

[DoofusDonutDude]

None of these numbers mean anything as they're all relative, i.e. Money (10), what does that mean? Same with career? Lifestyle - 10 is what, according to who? What about YOUR own wishes, which can mean staying in most days and doing things society would consider less exciting, does that mean a lower number, so you will range lower just because you choose interests that don't qualify to be on 8, 9 or 10 on some scale?

Easy Master Don Juan, i am a newb, until a few days ago when i came across the book of pook , i didn't know anything about all this.

Like i said wrote this during one of my "bad days". Yes, YOUR own wishes come first- like pook says in his book. These all "metrices" are simply different areas a person can work on himself i suppose. The point is there are so many more areas a "short man" can work upon himself instead of feeling sorry for himself. For ex: Career - "you working a job you like or enjoy or you feel its sucking our soul into the abyss and there's no growth ahead?". Lifestyle " How do you spend your weekend? Eating cheetos on a couch bingeing netflix or going out and doing stuff you actually enjoy?" You're right though, these areas should not be focused on from an external pov but your own , i was thinking of them from an extrinsic pov but i'll still stand with my view that these are classifications of areas a man work on to become a better version of himself(atleast from my pov, you can create your own).

John Wooden , one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time said “The more concerned we become over the things we can't control, the less we will do with the things we can control.”

One of the basis of stoic philosophy is the division of things you can control and you cannot control.

I think that applies a TON to anyone who feels he/she has a "handicap" - balding, short height etc.

 

[Stoic]

Doesn't matter if they ask you what your height is from the get go and then swipe left when the reality doesn't match their want

My post addressed this, but you did not quote that part.

In simple terms, focus entirely on things that are within your control.

 

[Gamisch]

I mean, yeah i guess odds are stacked against you as a short dude, so what you gonna give up?
I mean, during one of my "down phases" i made a list of things that say a "short game character" would have in our real world:

PLAYER ONE STATS

Looks:
1) Height: 4/10 --> ( Didn't stop a 5'5 Gervonta Davis who knocked out a 5'10 Ryan Garcia or several others , or Audey Murphey who was 5'2-5'4 and the most decorated soldier of all time or Yuri Gagarin who was the first man in space and only 5'2. In fiction, Wolverine is only 5'3 but he slays so many goddesses and queens he's known for it)
2) Face: /10
3) Hair : /10
4) Body: /10
5) Dressing sense: /10
6) Sex Appeal: /10

Personality:
7) Confidence: /10
8) Charisma: /10
9) Competence: /10
10) Dominance (or Leadership) : /10
11) Social skills : /10
12) Emotional Intelligence: /10
13) GAME: /10
14) Intellect/Intelligence : /10

Status:
15) Money: /10
16) Career: /10
17) Lifestyle: /10
18) Social Proof: /10
19) Power: /10


Out of these 19 metrices, if the short dude even has a 2 or a 4 out of 10 in height, he still has 18 metrices he can absolutely master and become a Don Juan who slays. In all of these metrices, except Height, face, hair which are given by nature (but still manageable to a certain extent) all other 16 metrices are still absolutely 100% in your hands.

It's not how big you are, its how big you play.

EDIT: Forgot to add a metric for Sex (how good you are in the sack).

This is such a great post..

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I just chatted with a neighbor who's 5'6" and has a hb7.5 gf, so ymmv. Don't know how they met though.

 

[MatureDJ]

Thoughts?

My thoughts?

 

[MatureDJ]

Height is important more so when she is younger. Money and status are still supreme.

Great, so short men have to wait until this gets stamped with the Manager's Special tag?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

For the most part, simply being taller than her is enough. Women have very poor concepts of what various heights are. Obviously if you are 5'5" and put that you are 6'0", it's going to be a non starter but you can easily add 2-3" to your height most times and very very rarely will they notice. I am 5'8" and always put 5'10" on my profiles and out of 150 dates maybe 1 or 2 said anything about it.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

For the most part, simply being taller than her is enough. Women have very poor concepts of what various heights are. Obviously if you are 5'5" and put that you are 6'0", it's going to be a non starter but you can easily add 2-3" to your height most times and very very rarely will they notice. I am 5'8" and always put 5'10" on my profiles and out of 150 dates maybe 1 or 2 said anything about it.

And those 1 or 2 dates led nowhere? A little fibbing can be an interest screen imo.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

And those 1 or 2 dates led nowhere? A little fibbing can be an interest screen imo.

It was actually kinda funny because they seemingly did the reverse, put their height down an inch or two.

They claimed to be 5'8" which would have meant we would be the same height but they were clearly taller and both were wearing flat shoes, not heels.