HB7.5 prefers beta guy, wth?

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Hello.

I've been gaming a bit his HB7.5 who's 28 yo for some weeks. One day I got her number, some days later I asked her out for a drink and she kind of declined it.
Some weeks later I tried again and she declined it again.

The funiest thing about this is that...she met a guy some weeks before she met me. This guy is a total wuss, he's short, bit shy, has total regular face, does not dress well, pretty thin etc
He's being playing the very good friend role with this girl for some months, we all go to salsa lessons, so he was spending all the time with this girl, everyday, every minute.

Eventhough this girl declined my invitations to go for a drink, I felt the chemistry between us BUT, what just happened? these two are now boyfriend and girlfriend! wtf?

I've heard some stories about guys playing the super good friend, insisting over and over and then getting the girl, so this time I have SEEN IT.

I'm funier than this guy, taller, stronger, I dress way better, and I teased this girl and I was not paying attention to her all the time like him, but, see what happened.
Then only thing I see this guy does better than me, is that he dances better, but so what??


This guy is for sure an average frustrated chump, but what the heck?
We see here an example of a hot girl that does not want an alpha, she prefers a beta.

P.S.
today is this girl's birthday. I posted on her wall 'happy birthday!' she liked it BUT some hours later she has deleted my post! whattttt??
 

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**** happens man, there are also a lot of reasons that she is dating this guy you don't really know.
 

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Never underestimate the competition. You have no idea what this guy is doing with her when you aren't around.
 

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pyros said:
Hello.

I've been gaming a bit his HB7.5 who's 28 yo for some weeks. One day I got her number, some days later I asked her out for a drink and she kind of declined it.
Some weeks later I tried again and she declined it again.

The funiest thing about this is that...she met a guy some weeks before she met me. This guy is a total wuss, he's short, bit shy, has total regular face, does not dress well, pretty thin etc
He's being playing the very good friend role with this girl for some months, we all go to salsa lessons, so he was spending all the time with this girl, everyday, every minute.

Eventhough this girl declined my invitations to go for a drink, I felt the chemistry between us BUT, what just happened? these two are now boyfriend and girlfriend! wtf?

I've heard some stories about guys playing the super good friend, insisting over and over and then getting the girl, so this time I have SEEN IT.

I'm funier than this guy, taller, stronger, I dress way better, and I teased this girl and I was not paying attention to her all the time like him, but, see what happened.
Then only thing I see this guy does better than me, is that he dances better, but so what??


This guy is for sure an average frustrated chump, but what the heck?
We see here an example of a hot girl that does not want an alpha, she prefers a beta.

P.S.
today is this girl's birthday. I posted on her wall 'happy birthday!' she liked it BUT some hours later she has deleted my post! whattttt??
You are on here pining away about some girl while belittling your competition and yet you call yourself alpha...see the irony here?

And I doubt he is total beta...whatever he did...he did it right with her...you can act very beta if it is backed up by confidence...this whole alpha/beta thing is blown way out of proportion...it comes down to looks and confidence....if she is physically attracted to you and you act confident than spending time with her to make her feel comfortable with you in the beginning is not beta at all...it is smart.
 

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pyros said:
We see here an example of a hot girl that does not want an alpha, she prefers a beta.
I truly believe that 95% of the guys on here who claim to be alpha are not. Believing you are an alpha does not make you one, but it's a start.

As for this guy, maybe they just connect with each other really well. Sometimes that happens with people, you can't really predict it or explain it, it just happens. Sometimes people can't even help who they connect with. Maybe it's chemistry or genetics. Sometimes women are drawn to guys who have what they are lacking genetically, makes for good breeding.

zinc4 said:
you can act very beta if it is backed up by confidence...this whole alpha/beta thing is blown way out of proportion...
Agreed. Maybe this guy is just very comfortable with who he is. This comes across much more naturally than some guy who is trying to be a PUA.
 

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If he is a totally pusssy then it's only a matter of time until she realises, for all you know she's doing her best to try to manipulate you.

Women like a man who is assertive that can bend them over and f*** them sideways. Some women like shy guys but it's quite rare.
 

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Being a good dancer is a big deal. Especially if you go to organized lessons. He sounds like he is the alpha of the dance floor.
 

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LMFAO said:
If he is a totally pusssy then it's only a matter of time until she realises, for all you know she's doing her best to try to manipulate you.

Women like a man who is assertive that can bend them over and f*** them sideways. Some women like shy guys but it's quite rare.


Being a little shy or quite does not equate to being a puss& or weak...they are 2 totally different things...and it certainly has nothing to do with sexual ability...often times the more quite ones are the toughest or most manly...some just don't like to strut it as much as others...

And being a good dancer is pretty big if the guy is decent looking...
 

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They might be dance partners. If they both take salsa and they both spend a lot of time together, it's quite possible that they practice dance together.

This involves kino and time alone. It could generate some feelings if he's at least ok looking.

He might not be the guy she would take home from the bar, but if they dance alone a lot, stuff could happen more slowly.
 

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hi Mike,

yes I guess it is whay you just said. We're all salsa partners but these two are within the same group of friends that see each other every weekend, go to parties, go to dance A LOT, etc
I just join them from time to time, but this guy yeah, dances good, and spends all his free time dancing with these ppl and of course with this girl as well.

Im not saying Im super alphay, Im just saying that this guy is the typical dude that is always trying to be nice with girls, doing what they say, trying not to offend them or anything etc Besides he's really average looking and short, no muscles anywhere.
Also, I have seen many average girls reject him during the last year. He joined salsa lessons at the same time as me, but he has been going to every ****ing lesson, every day, every dance, for the last whole year. Many times I've made some jokes about him living in our salsa academy because he was always there.

I think this chick choosed him because they spent a lot of time dancing together, really a lot, plus she may like a guy she can control with no effort.
See this, I have a friend which is a total wuss and now he has a girlfriend that o totally controls him.
Is he lucky? I dont think so. Is he having regular sex? yes, but what is better? to be with a girl that controls you and have regular sex, or to be single and trying to find a hot girl that YOU 'control'?

See my point? beta guys have girlfriends, alphas or bethas or whatever you call it, all guys have girls at some point, the difference is the dynamic of the relationship.
Would you be with a hot girl that manipulates and controls you?
many guys would.
Are these hot girls really attracted to their wussy boyfriends? I have no idea really, I would say they're not, but they're still with them so, I just dont know.

I guess there are too many reasons why some girls are with some guys, and not all of them are because they're are really attracted to them or they are really in love with them. YOu know?
 

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Just goes to show, all of these alpha, PUA techniques, expensive clothes, working out, awesome haircuts, great lines, are nothing in the face of true attraction from a female. You can be easily dismissed, just like a beta wuss. We all have seen this and experienced it. You think you are superior. You think you are more alpha. Doesn't matter. You were simply not chosen. You only have 50% attraction power, not 100%. The other comes from her to make you a couple. It is not always your fault, as a lot of guys think, especially in the PUA community.

Absent of all logic, a girl will like what she likes. You can be covered in crap and she'll gladly take you if she digs you.

Your best form of action at this point, if you are as alpha as you think, is to accept the situation and carry on to the next conquest. No need to be in a state of complain about it. This will continue for millennia.
 

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Hi VladPlatton.

The thing is that ppl here who consider themselves PUAs or PUAS apprentices, make the mistake to think that 'if you do every thing well (like if it was an ecuation) = she has to be attracted to you', as if it was a method or something.

The reallity is, I think, that 'if you do everything ok' it does not mean she's gonna be attracted to you, what is clear is that if you do some things wrong shes absolutely not going to be attracted to you.
What you said, if you have some muscles, dress well, are fun, etc etc, there are going to be a lot of girls, majority of them, that are not gonna want to be with you anyway! because of dozens of reasons!

The mistake we do here is to think that if we do A, B, and C, she must dig us.
And, if we do A, B and C, and the girl we like does not want to bang us, we think there is something wrong with us, or that we did something wrong and if we hadnt...then she would be interested.

As Will Smith says in Hitch the film:
'you're going now to have your first date with her, take it easy, relax, she wants to see you so this means she already likes you! you dont have to do anything, just do not screw it!'

Conclusion, just search for the girls that like you from the begining, if you meet 100 girls, maybe 30 really like you from the first moment they see you, and out of these 30 maybe 10 are available and looking for something, so as everybody says here, its a numbers game, it is not a ****ing ecuation in which if you do X all girls should be attracted to you. Hah, LMAO.
 

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So basically, You are b1tching that the competition was better then you and don't want to realise it's your own damn fault for been outcome dependent.
And that's why I think visits to this forum are bad for my mental health.
edit: What's with the whole "It's her birthday and she deleted my post" thing.
That's just too damn bad kiddo.
 

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Look at her father. He is probably similar to her boyfriend. 28 is also biological clock time, when a woman will start choosing mates who offer more security and stability. They are picking out a future father for their future kid.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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Bible_Belt said:
Look at her father. He is probably similar to her boyfriend. 28 is also biological clock time, when a woman will start choosing mates who offer more security and stability. They are picking out a future father for their future kid.
so true , *****es like guys whoare similar to their "daddy" :rockon:
 

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I recently had to deal with a beta guy macking on my object of desire too, but I ended up getting the girl and he ended up crying... seriously. Pyros, 3 things are possibilities here, listen up:

1. You didn't escalate fast enough, weren't as alpha as you thought, etc. Did you fvck her? If he did first, then he is at an advantage. Re-evaluate all that happened and see if you made some mistakes.

2. She is using this as a test to see how you react. If you play it cool, she will dump him. Act as if you are happy with her new relationship, then cut her off and talk to other girls. If she comes back within a week or two, it was merely a test.

3. She doesn't know what she wants. Being beta almost NEVER works though. She'll get tired of him in a month or two if not sooner. In the meantime, hit up other chicks and ignore her if she tries to whine to you. Hell, if she tries to talk to you at all while she's with this guy, say you're busy and you'll talk to her later.
 

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From your post it seems that you are the frustrated chump here.

You have so much pride in yourself, you find no fault in yourself and think you are better than this guy in almost every single way.

But the other guy doesn't even matter. Stop analyzing his life and your life.

What happened is she rejected you, not once but twice. You don't have to think, or analyze here, just move on to others. There could be a million reasons she choose him over you, or it could be luck, chance, destiny, the will of God, whatever you call it, the point is that it doesn't matter. You are out with her.
 

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pyros said:
Hello.

I've been gaming a bit his HB7.5 who's 28 yo for some weeks.

Her biological clock is ticking bro. Hoes go for betas when they are about to end so they could get instant finances and get cared for and sh1t.

They go for betas because it's easier to settle down with them, plus they have greater chances for controlling them.
 

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Scientific studies (I'm sure someone has the link) have shown that there are components that we still cannot detect or explain that cause attraction/chemistry/type. Maybe it's scent, pheromones, aura, etc. but why someone chooses one over the other cannot be scientifically explained.

This should make some of us feel better when getting rejected even when you swear you're the best catch with all of your PUA techniques. Somethings we just can't explain.
 

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