... Hb5 more beautiful than hb9..

[European-DJ]

So the title sounds a bit weird, and controcontradictory, but this is the story (Long read):

½ year ago, i dated this HB5 with a heart of gold, she is studying sociology and working in a kindergarden, gives love to everyone and everything, and treat everybody the same - this girl is without doubt, the sweetest girl i have ever met.

I slept at her place a few times, and each time she would be soaking wet, but we wouldn't fvck due to resistanse from start to end. But this one day, i got a bit too pushy, and i put my dvck in - within seconds she stopped it, said it was wrong, and went into this weird mood - after that, we didn't talk until lately..

We have been texting for a month now, and have decided to meet up the 1st of December for an "Reunion", just some food at my place, perhaps a movie afterwards...
Anyway, the txt have been rolling, and i have been sooo flirty, and she havn't held back on the indirect compliments - even though she keeps pushing the "friend card" as a bit of a joke (or so i think) - i also fell that she is showing interest, but i am in doubt.

Today she asks me the question: "What is your picture of us, i simply cannot read you, i am cunfused" ...

To that, i have no idea what to answer, the tihing is:


For the last 4 months i have been seeing this HB9, hot babe, crazy sex, huge boobs, nice round ass - SOOO tight body, beautifull, tanned... i could compliment her until tomorow; the thing is, her personality is worthless..

My issues and questions are:

1) What could i ask to the HB5's text.

2) What would you do? Go for the HB9 (with 5 personality), or HB5 (with 10 personality)??

Let me know what you think, and why?

Regards.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The c0ck tease HB5 does not have as great a personality as you think. She wouldn't be a c0ck tease if she was so nice. In any event, I can't imagine being sexually attracted to an HB5, so in my eyes, the dilemma is non-existent. But to each his own..

 

[European-DJ]

Okay, answer question 1, and act like it was a hb10 ?

 

[yuppaz]

You might be more attracted because you weren't able to f*ck her. You would know after you do. What is so bad about the hotter ones personality?

 

[floydb25]

Maybe you could try being more direct with the 5? Are you "gaming" her? That usually only works on dumb, shallow, immature, useless sluts. Hence banging the 9 so easily. A lot of decent girls arent into the games, drama, and other crap. Their lives arent wild, shallow, and superficial.

Maybe she doesnt know where you stand because youre applying game, come off as a player who only wants sex, and she's more of a relationship person.

I think we sometimes assume that all women are shallow skanks who only care about status, looks, money, and love to play games to deceive, manipulate, and control, and respond favorably to dip****s - that we end up treating the genuine ones the same way. Black and white thinking, and what not. But theres some that DO communicate, are honest, etc etc.

Only game the trash. Its what theyre all about themselves.

 

[Greasy Pig]

Good post, Floyd. I think all women need to be "gamed" because all women share certain personality traits (hypergamy).
But this one girl I'm seeing does not respond well to the game I run on other women and I've come to the conclusion that she's a different type of woman to the ones who lap up my arsehole game and keep bombarding me with texts when I don't reply.
I still run game on her but I've had to adapt it to her peculiar situation.

In other words, Floyd's right: run your A game on the insecure drama queens, but learn to adapt it to other girls who don't react in the "classic" way.

 

[GotED?]

To the OP:

I have had the identical experience(s) as you have had and my Master's Degree in DJ thesis/dissertation up to my 40 yrs of studies is this:

HB 7-9's are not typically worthy of relationship stuff - they are hot for a reason, because they have learned to manipulate all through out their life since they were 12 and had boobs or a pretty face to do so to boys. Why would a human being want to develop their personality and inner beauty when they don't need to, hence.... here comes the others...

HB 5-6's are 'cute' in appearance, and may also have some sort of HB to go with it. However, they tend to be more reserved, shy, or not so confident as their upper counterparts. These are the salt of the Earth I should say - for long term relationships. Don't be mislead by their quiet/modest personality, some can actually become sex-a-holics and are VERY passionate in bed because they have learned to self-disciplined themselves all their lives not being whorres, and when they find a boyfriend worthy of their attention, they literally are stars in bed and can't get enough.

My final conclusion to my thesis:

The HB7-9's I have been with always had emotional issues, overly active ego, highly conflict driven, and very low self-esteem that hides behind what appears to be high self-confidence. These women are truly a waste of my time after 40 yrs of experience. Being a LTR type of guy, I am now with a woman who is probably a HB6 or 7, French, has a real tight body to go with it, marvelous personality just as you had described, very passionate in bed, and I couldn't be happier.

My advice to your situation of her behavior is exactly what I went through: She perceives you to be a player type and can't trust that you will 'HUMP AND DUMP' her once you are done because she is not used to getting attention from guys who is above her 'physical level of attractive' scale she is used to (you intimidate her by looks). She is also more reserved than typical trash whorres and is probably very sensitive to being hurt, thus she is much more modest. However, don't put this against her - because if you become her LTR boyfriend, you would be glad to know that she didn't HUMP other men before you just as quickly if she gave it up to you right away, correct?

In the end, these are the rare quality women a lot of guys on here complain of not finding. However, most of them are still fulfilling their own EGO of getting a hold of the prize (HB8,9's) because they haven't experience that victory (and then defeat because those women are just fooked up in the head). Once these guys have reached their Holy Grail, been fooked in the head by HB8' and 9's, they will happily find the balance in a beautiful HB6 or 7 who has some substance on the inside as well (which I believe is what makes relationships last, not exterior lust).

Final secret to deduction how a woman really is in personality: Take a look at her mother, most likely (like baby ducks imprinting their own mother) she will behave just as her mother is. So if her mother is a real biatch, expect it to come out later when the masquerade draws down after 6-12 months together. Save yourself some pain. Meet her mother.

*** FIGURE OUT IF YOU ARE VERY ATTRACTED TO THE HB5's BODY AND LOOKS, AND IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO HER IN THE BEDROOM OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEN GO FOR HER. (You MUST be physically attracted to a woman - bottom line!! then personality) IF NOT, RISK GETTING BURNED AND TRY FOR THE HB8/9 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING YOURSELF INTO! *****

With Respect,

Exodus

 

[C-quenced]

My first LTR ever was with an HB 8.5 and I got burned really bad after that one. This girl was so attractive she couldn't go under a 7 even if she had no makeup on, and her hair was all ****ed up in the morning. She was also thin and had an excellent, close to perfect ass to go along with the rest. Having a gorgeous girl like that left me feeling as if I was on cloud 9. It was a "high feeling" that I can't really describe. I was with her for nearly four years until she just "wasn't happy anymore".

My second LTR lasted about half the time and she was an HB 5-6. This time I was the one to sabotage the relationship by cheating with significantly better looking women. The only reason I felt horrible about it was because she was so sincere and devoted. She was naturally a very kind person and didn't deserve that kind of treatment. To this day I still feel miserable, but I just couldn't stay committed because I found my mind wandering. Sometimes I wonder... had she been better looking would she still be the same person? I have also come to terms with myself regarding commitment and staying faithful. I just simply cannot stay faithful to any one woman no matter how attractive she may be. I'm always going to want more.

 

[floydb25]

Agree with EVERYTHING Exodus said. I couldve wrote the exact same thing based on similar experiences. It is hard to break free from familiarity, though (ie, gaming dumb hotties to acting normal and attracting quality)... Especially when its all you know. I think a big danger is becoming one-dimensional, and not realizing that theres a whole variety of people out there. This is also why people ***** and generalize so much. Theyre focusing only on a certain type, which makes them feel the same way every time. Some people are actually addicted to chaos and drama. Bad times.

 

[GotED?]

" (ie, gaming dumb hotties to acting normal and attracting quality)... "

What Floyd said in that one line is 80% of guy's issue here!

Take heed and learn.... take drama out of your life if you are tired of it and ready to settle down, if not.... keep playing the Russian Roulette and you may win a BPD/NPD/HPD combination winning gal!!

Look at your own manhood and how secure you are in yourself, are you so insecure that you need to be validated by a trophy girlfriend walking next to you to justify that you are a man, or are you comfortable enough in your own skin to be happy with a woman who is balanced on the inside and outside?

Nothing good or bad exists in life, just experiences and preferences - good luck.

With respect,

Exodus

 

[C-quenced]

" (ie, gaming dumb hotties to acting normal and attracting quality)... "

What Floyd said in that one line is 80% of guy's issue here!

Take heed and learn.... take drama out of your life if you are tired of it and ready to settle down, if not.... keep playing the Russian Roulette and you may win a BPD/NPD/HPD combination winning gal!!

Look at your own manhood and how secure you are in yourself, are you so insecure that you need to be validated by a trophy girlfriend walking next to you to justify that you are a man, or are you comfortable enough in your own skin to be happy with a woman who is balanced on the inside and outside?

Nothing good or bad exists in life, just experiences and preferences - good luck.

With respect,

Exodus

While this may have been true say 10 - 12 years ago, this really isn't the case at all today. You now have a rising number of 5's, 6's and 7's walking around like they're 9.5's. It's also safe to say that many average lookers are just as egotistical and ****ed up (perhaps even more so) as their highly attractive counterparts. It makes no reasonable sense for anyone to drop their standards just to try and secure a commitment from some average looking broad that's been banged by the whole neighborhood. Unfortunately there aren't enough REAL hotties to go around for everyone.

 

[GotED?]

While this may have been true say 10 years ago, this really isn't the case at all today. You now have a rising number of 5's, 6's and 7's walking around like they're 9.5's. It's also safe to say that many average lookers are just as egotistical and ****ed up (perhaps even more so) as their highly attractive counterparts. It makes no reasonable sense for anyone to drop their standards just to try and secure a commitment from some average looking broad that's been banged by the whole neighborhood. Unfortunately there aren't enough REAL hotties to go around for everyone.

There is some seriously truth to this as well, but more than likely one has a higher chance of finding a 'quality' woman as alot of guys here biatch about all day long posting by looking past skin-deep.

I also agree, with the ongoing elevation of divorces and broken families; women raised without a father dominant in their life - it will get worse as women continue to distort their own values/worth and display the false appearance of self-entitlement to mask what little self-esteem they have had in their childhood being raised without a father or being abused by one; or hating men because of what they observed in a divorce (whether the father was at fault, or the mother brainwashed the daughter to hate him).

Welcome to '2010 - A Space Odyssey' - the gap in the family of the future.

Exodus

 

[blindnowisee]

So I opened a topic with a similar question titled "Looks versus personality" and I struggled with the same question.

When we talk about HB7 etc are we talking physical appearance only? If this isn't the case then surely marrying someone and labeling her a HB7 is pure madness? That's basically conceiving that you've lowered your standards?

By definition the woman you've married (whilst claiming to be a DJ or whatever the hell you want to call it) should be a 10?

 

[GotED?]

'HB7' or whatever HBx is appearance only.

We were discussing the downfall of higher HBx as you go upwards.

I don't believe you have to marry a HB10 to be a 'DJ' - you need to be a 'DJ' when you are being the man that you are and in control of your relationship/marriage, HAPPY with the woman you chose, and not supplicating to the woman's needs like a whining puppy as an 'AFC' then losing her.

'Lowering your standards' may be 100% correct in the context of what we are talking about. But then we are not talking about one night stands, hump and dump here. We are talking about LTR and marriage - you are MORE likely to survive for the better with a more moderate HBx woman than at the upper scale of the spectrum due to inner qualities that makes relationships work.

I think the whole point of this website is down to this: How to not lose your woman due to AFC and amongst other things that are truly out of your hands (such as a HB8/9 losing interest in you over the long run or need drama else where, but we warned you already, didn't we?? ).

With respect,

Exodus

 

[European-DJ]

Hello Fellow Dj.

I just wanted to let you know, that the answers have really put things into perspective, and enforced the thoughts that i was already carying,

Once again thank you,

i am going to pursue the HB5, and hopefully end up with her..

Remember, I am looking for an LTR, not a One-night-stand...

If it was a one-night-stand i would always go with the hottie.