HB10 - Self defending

[romeo203]

I was dating around with this HB10. Totally hot and very hard for me to control myself. She's very flirtatious, touches, and compliments me alot.

The problem occurs when I neg-hit her. Telling her she wears alot of makeup and things like that. I created lots of challenge and cut short all dates with her. Basically I showed that I don't need her approval and I'm not like another wimp trying to win her approval.

When she asked if I had a girlfriend, my response was that I was dating alot of girls and she became hot and bothered. Now I sorta think I have her cause girls with low interest never ask if you have a girlfriend/married on a date.

Now recently, she cuts short our date before I even have a chance to and she's neg-hitting me back like saying I suck in bed. So she's like getting even with me and using my game against me. I'll walk away cause I don't take neg-hits very well and I'll be afraid she'll see my dark side. She'll then move around scream like a little kid for me to come back and say bye to her. Remind you, this chick is classy and mature.

On our last date she said she has to leave right now and I said so soon? She immediated jumped into bed right next to me and said oh you wanted to talk? We chatted a little bit and I told her I have to leave also.

I thought with all these techniques, should be all over me...

Guys what's your take on this?

 

[ThunderMaverick]

She immediated jumped into bed right next to me and said oh you wanted to talk? We chatted a little bit and I told her I have to leave also.



My take? My take is you're an idiot if you left after she "jumped into bed right next to" you. What do YOU think you could have done from that point?

Sheesh. Sorry man, but you had it. That's what I think, anyways.

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

Thunder has it right

You have an HB10 in your bed and.........nothing?
Crazy, but I know how it feels because I did the exact same thing not long ago. Problem was, I was a virgin, and very insecure about sex. I went from zero dates to hot sex immediately and I didn't know how to handle it.
It was ironic; all my life I wanted to get laid. Yet when the big moment came, I panicked. I was so nervous even when she Lewinsky'd me I couldn't come. Talk about a frustrating experience!

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Ohh..Wait.

Romeo: are you a virgin? That's proably why.

 

[romeo203]

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No, she wanted to leave right after sex. We usually do it at her place and after having sex, we'll cuddle but she expects me to spend the night. I'll usually just get up and tell I have to go after we have cuddled for like half an hour.

Now, this happened at my place when after having sex, she say's she has to go but I said So Soon? that's when she jumped back in bed and said Oh, you want to talk? We're like FWB right now but I want her to fall in love with me first.

Learning from the DJ techniques here, I've been able to control my feelings for her and not make her my life. I'm fairly certain a bunch of guys have and she's not used to a guy not giving her 100 percent before breaking their hearts. I was even being affectionate with another girl in front of her at a club before having sex with her. She was glancing over and checking me out but I'm trying my best to not to become oneitis with her. It's hard, very hard.

I'm wondering if it's the DJ techniques that is making her frustrated that she can't make me one of her AFCs.

 

[romeo203]

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No, she wanted to leave right after sex. We usually do it at her place and after having sex, we'll cuddle but she expects me to spend the night. I'll usually just get up and tell I have to go after we have cuddled for like half an hour.

Now, this happened at my place when after having sex, she say's she has to go but I said So Soon? that's when she jumped back in bed and said Oh, you want to talk? We're like FWB right now but I want her to fall in love with me first.

Learning from the DJ techniques here, I've been able to control my feelings for her and not make her my life. I'm fairly certain a bunch of guys have and she's not used to a guy not giving her 100 percent before breaking their hearts. I was even being affectionate with another girl in front of her at a club before having sex with her. She was glancing over and checking me out but I'm trying my best to not to become oneitis with her. It's hard, very hard.

I'm wondering if it's the DJ techniques that is making her frustrated that she can't make me one of her AFCs.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Dude, you're facts are all over the fucking place.


I honestly don't understand what you're saying. You're first post and last post are totally different.

Soooo..you've fucked her already?

What are you trying to do, again?

 

[Don Rageta]

tip rome. this board is anonomous, no shame in admitting you are a virgin, in fact if you are honest you will get back better advice. i

i am going to go ahead and assume you are a V. for the sake of those who are i am going to tell yo your mistakes.

Neg-hits are only for dropping a *****-shield all you do after that is make her defensive. there is a difference between funny and insulting.

second you are out playing yourself by playing games. if you cut it short with her every time you see her you are only going to screw yourself over. that ploy that some 'dj's' use is to raise a girls interest level, it isn't a magic pill you can keep popping her.

thirdly, you say with all these techniques she should be all over you. hmm...

it is up to you to get her all over you know when a technique should and should not be used. She is in your bed and instead of using a "technique" (if thats how you like to think of em') to kiss or make a move on her that could lead to sex, you chose to use a technique to raise her interest level, or so you think, by asking her to leave. all you do there is make the both of you leave sexfrustrated.

girls get tired of games too and don't like a nice guy that doesn't know how or have the confidence to take it to the next step. what do you want for her to garnish her gash. stop playing so many games. the things on this site aren't a blueprint or rules, they are simply ideas. you need to learn when they are appropriate.

 

[xblitz44x]

THIS is EXACTLY why you guys are destroying yourself with these 'tactics'. This is a prime example of a great way to fvck up something that is going along just fine. Thank you, Romeo, you are at least showing these other people exactly what is going to happen when you start playing games.

"The problem occurs when I neg-hit her. Telling her she wears alot of makeup and things like that. I created lots of challenge and cut short all dates with her. Basically I showed that I don't need her approval and I'm not like another wimp trying to win her approval."

What's funny is, lets be honest, you ARE trying to win her approval. Every guy who has to go out of his way to 'run game' on a girl IS trying to win her approval because he believes that being who he is 'naturally' is not attractive. These 'challenges' and 'negs' are transparent. You're setting up a competitive dynamic. She's going to eventually play back when she's tired of dealing with the kid shyt. We have a hard enough time weeding through our own fvcked up minds to figure out what women want....throw in the games that she's going to play now and forget about it.

"When she asked if I had a girlfriend, my response was that I was dating alot of girls and she became hot and bothered. Now I sorta think I have her cause girls with low interest never ask if you have a girlfriend/married on a date."

You had her BEFORE she asked you that. And you had her BEFORE you blew it with your "I'm dating a lot of women" response. Now she a) may have a hard time trusting you, b) may see how transparent that answer is, as if you're bragging, and c) will most likely play the game back to you.

My take is to cut the shyt. You rated her a 10. Which means that you perceive her as perfect. Which means that she's contrasting all the shyt that isn't perfect in you, which is compelling you to play all of these little games and use techniques to cover up your insecurities. This is also why it hits home so much when she 'neg-hits you back'.

Just be you. Have fun with her. Laugh with her. Hang out with her like it's a friend. When the time is right and things heat up, make a move and let things progress naturally. If she asks you questions, give her (most of) the truth. Be honest with her. Clear up the lines of communication that you tied up when you felt like you needed to resort to games.

 

[Dirtheart]

If you are so into tactics and playing games, buy a Playstation.

 

[diablo]

I recommend Splinter Cell.

 

[romeo203]

-- you're right

Right, I'm not gonna throw all DJ techniques out the door. Instead, I'm gonna look at what I have done in the past to make a girl go out and fall in love with me.

 

[Jay Fiedler]

You romeo and alot of guys on here nowadays are making this way too complicated. Bottom line is either you like her or you don't or vice versa. You can play these little childish games till your blue in the face and it wont matter one bit.

 

[tactic]

Your level: 1 Her level : 10

She wants level : 10 You want level: 10

She can handle: 1-10 You can handle 1-2

She dislikes: 1 You dislike : 1

You should be: 10

But you are: 1

She: Flirts

You: Fear

She: Talks

You: Walk away


Ta dah!

 

[Mazman]

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I'm with Thundermaverick.

What exactly are you trying to do?

What is your ultimate goal with this girl?

 

[Alexis Zorba]

Techniques

The problem with many od the DJs in this site is their way of thinking. When on a date they think: "If I neg-hit her then her interest level will get higher", "If I am mysterious then she will like me more"

Wrong,wrong and wrong!

You have to understand that these techniques are not usefull if there is nothing to back them up.Imagine this (the following is not my idea, I took it from somewhere inthis site): A girl you are dating, who sees you as mysterious and fun, arrives to your house only to find you eating pizza in your underware and watching TV, completely bored. You are doing nothing mysterious. She sees you and understands you were nothing but a fake.Bye bye mystery.
Being a challenge should come as a result of your life. The techniques on this site should come as a result of your lifestyle.

That being said:

If you constanly neg-hit a girl for the sole purpose of winning her she will see through that. The purpose of a neg-hit should be to have fun, to see the way in which she reacts, to tease her and thus get a good laugh. Its purpose is to enjoy your date and consequently your life.

Alexis Zorba

 

[romeo203]

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Basically, I want to know how do you handle a HB10 without her dominating your feelings. These girls have that power and they know it.

I'm just trying my best not to be like all the other guys that passed through her life and became emotional wimps AFC to the fullest.

Right now, I'm totally head over heals for her and I'm trying my best not to show it at all. But there are a small number of times where I do such as if a romantic song comes up at a club I'll hold hands and then immediately back off.

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

Damn man

You're putting this girl on a pedestal higher than the Empire State Building.
Does she have ANY annoying habits, or traits? Do you disagree with her on anything? Try arguing with her about something, anything.
I don't know if she's bored with your supplicating bahavior (I suspect she is), but at least you can use her to practice on.

 

[Mazman]

I'm still a bit confused, but it could be because I just woke up.

It sounds like you're just doing things half-assed.

Don't go out on dates and cut them all short. Just go on less dates and have some quality time. Don't focus too much on cutting it short.

Holding her hands then backing off? Huh? Hold her hands. Give her your full attention at that particular time, but don't do it everytime a romantic song comes up.

I myself don't neg-hit a woman when there's no reason for it.
I rarely neg-hit and only do it when she's being a pain.

I hope you undestand what I'm saying.
I'm sure others will disagree with me, but.....oh well.