Having her do stuff for you

[digitalrat]

There was a post awhile back that explained this.

It was about, have her do favors or get stuff for you. I remember it mentioned how he has a natural DJ friend that had a girl help him wash his car once etc...

I tried searching but came out dry.

 

[Batman407]

if anyone, not only a target, does a favor for you... it will be much easier to convince them to go along with what you say. its gradeschool psychology.

 

[Starman]

What Batman is talking about is the "foot in the door" technique

If you ask someone to do you a small favor (i.e. loan you a dollar)..they will likely follow up and do you a Big favor (loan you $10)i.e. ask them for something small..then hit them for what you REALLY need the favor with..this is a popular technique used by telemarketers..they give you something for Free..then they Ask you to buy their product

The other technique is the Door in the face technique..

you ask them for something You KNOW they will say NO! to..(i.e. Can I borrow $100?)

when they say NO, then you say, "Well can I borrow $50 then?(the original amount you really wanted)

 

[OddTech]

Yes you guys are right, but there is more to that.

What we are looking at is the case of "investing." In the example that a girl is being supplicated by an AFC, she didn't invest anything into the relationship. The guy put out all the effort and made her work easy. She can eat anything she wants, go to any movies she wants, etc etc etc. Her needs are easily fulfilled and comes with little effort. This relationship is doomed, though, because the guy is being an AFC and letting her have things her way.

On the other hand, if we have a DJ here, he would want the girl to do favors and things for him, even things that she doesn't like. The guy likes steak for example, and the girl willingly go with him. She watches the latest T3 movie with him, even though she hates Arnold. You see, when a girl is willingly doing things for a guy, she is "investing" into the relationship. She is sacrificing things to be with the guy.

Now the girl would think: "Gosh, I do all these things for him, even things I don't like. I must really like him."

That's the type of thought you want to achieve. Think about that guys, when you were AFCs, you willingly do things for HBs, even things you don't really like (like giving her rides, lending her money, etc.). But why? Because you convinced yourself that you really like her and she is worth the inconveniences (plus you were being a nice guy).

Hence, it's a great thing to occassionally have the girl do things that you like and let her pay for things. Let her "invest" energy, time, and money into you. It'll make her feel like the relationship is worth keeping. In fact, the more effort she puts, the more she values the relationship, just like other things in life.

Hope this helps, peace out.

 

[Starman]

out of curiosity..I know AFC's hate to ask women for favors..

do you think it would raise her IL if she were to do you favors? then look at it as an "investment"?

 

[Tano]

I have found that getting a girl to do non monetary favours for you does amplify the attraction and builds a stronger relationship.
Just ring her up when your out clubbing with the guys and get her to pick you up at some strange hour. She will act all pissed off but will be glad you called but will like the idea that you needed her and she can do something for you.

Hence, it's a great thing to occassionally have the girl do things that you like and let her pay for things. Let her "invest" energy, time, and money into you. It'll make her feel like the relationship is worth keeping. In fact, the more effort she puts, the more she values the relationship, just like other things in life

Exactly.

 

[OddTech]

Originally posted by Starman
out of curiosity..I know AFC's hate to ask women for favors..

do you think it would raise her IL if she were to do you favors? then look at it as an "investment"?

Starman, in my experience, it is usually true. But the guy has the responsibility to acknowledge her efforts. Guys who doesn't appreciate will end up taking the girl for granted. The girl will feel used and the relationship is a goner.

But think about other things in your life. I'm sure there are guys here who "mods" their cars. They put so much money and time to fix their cars of their dreams. You can say it's quite a bit of "investment." Then you ask these guys if they're willing to give up their cars, most likely they will say NO. Why? Because they have put so much blood and sweat into their cars. This is the type of investment that I'm talking about.

What I'm saying is that don't give girls "FREE RIDES." Let them work for the relationship. Girls who just sit on their a** aren't active in the relationship. Those are not worth keeping.

I think this investment issue is more important as the relationship goes on, and less so during the beginning.

 

[Starman]

Im actually working on this girl who has a moderate IL..it was HIGH before..but I let it plummet..

Now Im going to try and call her up and ask for favors(nonmonetary i.e. rides, go shopping for a suit, or help me with a paper)..

and I will see if this asking for favors will re-capture her IL based on the investment theory

 

[Ar7]

Hmm interesting point guys, I must say it makes all sense to me..

 

[nw1512]

A couple of months my boss's daughter all of a sudden started asking me to do these favours for her, droping stuff off for her etc, I didnt think anything of it until after half a dozen or so favours I would start to think about her out of nowhere, before i picked up on what she was doing.

Be careful guys, this stuff works

I started to increase the "favours" with my girlfriend and it worked a treat.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Getting women to do things for you should be a natural function of being a DJ. If your game is tight then you will get a woman to do almost anything for you. I have ones who clean my home...take me to the movies...take me to dinner...buy my shirts & slacks & shoes...I get results as you can see by the following emails I have recieved:

"All I ever wanted from you was to enjoy your company and have fun....

I enjoyed the passion and the sex....
me....

and how am I self centered?? I clean your house and I do ever get a
thank you....."


"I feel extra passionate towards you......I miss hanging out with
you.....movies, breakfast, dinner..I would like to take you out
sometime....just let me know if you ever want to go out for
dinner....happy hour/appetizer."

"I would like to take you to see a movie some evening when you are
free.......


A back rub...head rub....foot rub...feet rub.......hand rub........."

"like to take you for appetizers somewhere soon...

I know you are dieting..you let me know when........

I need ****ed baby.....really bad....are you game....."


No I'm not a gigalo. A gigalo doesn't control his women, he is at the mercy of them. I control mine.

To get there you gotta go so deep in her head that all she thinks about every day and all day long is you. You gotta spit words that reach her on her deepest levels.

Women are emotional creatures and they all want mainly one thing: to be in a relationship with someone... Or to be loved.

With those as your selling tools it's just a matter of the carrot and the stick.

peace

 

[Starman]

and what exactly are some of those words to get emotionally in their head?

 

[bugsquish]

This is something I have been wondering about. What do do if you have a girl with high IL, but she has wised up from exes and wont do little favours? For example, I asked her to pour me a beer and she refused She says she doesn't want me to think I can "order her around". Oh, this happened just after I gave her an orgasm too!

 

[Tano]

bugsquish :I think you know what you have to do!!



NEXT Her, or atleast give her a big back hand. (Chicks love it when you release your anger on them with a good belting).

Remember favours are used to strengthen the relationship, not **** test each other and grow further apart. It was probably how you delivered the statement. Have respect when you ask a women to do something for you (if you care about her that is).

 

[Quick]

Originally posted by bugsquish
This is something I have been wondering about. What do do if you have a girl with high IL, but she has wised up from exes and wont do little favours? For example, I asked her to pour me a beer and she refused She says she doesn't want me to think I can "order her around". Oh, this happened just after I gave her an orgasm too!

I think you probably asked her wrong. Did you tell her to do it or ask her?

If you asked nicely, she might have that backslap coming. If she asked you nicely to grab her a drink, wouldn't you do that for her? If she can't do nice things for you because she's compensating for mistakes she made with other people, that's a big turnoff. One thing I demand from girls is that they make every effort to judge me as an individual and not make me pay for what other guys did. Next time she wants you to do anything at all, you should pull that line on her. "I would help you carry that 80 pound box, but I don't want you to think I'm your servant."

 

[Player_Supreme]

Starman

Read the post on "Dirty Talk" or Talking Dirty, I can't quite remember which way it was spelled. I presented an in depth example and a live example pulled from seducing a girl with on email contact...

Within the live example I presented a list of words to sprinkle in your convo or emails that will excite a womans mind.

I will not repeat it since the postings were quite long. If your truely interested then go read it.

You will see proof for yourself, that women are emotional creatures and can be controlled and manipulated with them.

I actually expected from the over 300 people who read that posting to hear some complaints but so far no one has. I am shocked in given the history of this posting board and the ego's up on here....well enjoy the read

 

[digitalrat]

Originally posted by OddTech
Starman, in my experience, it is usually true. But the guy has the responsibility to acknowledge her efforts. Guys who doesn't appreciate will end up taking the girl for granted. The girl will feel used and the relationship is a goner.

But think about other things in your life. I'm sure there are guys here who "mods" their cars. They put so much money and time to fix their cars of their dreams. You can say it's quite a bit of "investment." Then you ask these guys if they're willing to give up their cars, most likely they will say NO. Why? Because they have put so much blood and sweat into their cars. This is the type of investment that I'm talking about.

What I'm saying is that don't give girls "FREE RIDES." Let them work for the relationship. Girls who just sit on their a** aren't active in the relationship. Those are not worth keeping.

I think this investment issue is more important as the relationship goes on, and less so during the beginning.

haha, last night I was hanging out with this girl outside her house. Were talking about cars, blah blah and somehow it gets into how important they are. I'm like "You are nothing compared to my car!" With a little smirk lol But its really the truth.