having another hot girl with me while i see my target who has lowish IL, good move?

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my love interest is not playing ball with me, i behaved afc last sunday on our date and i felt friendzoned. she still wants to meet up with me 1 on 1 but she could just like the attention. she could even cancel today cos shes toying with me or knows im really into her.

she already felt i wasn't just into her cos her friend told her i tried it with her 1st then moved on to my target. i told my 1 that just wasnt true but she doesn't trust me so wont let me take things further i.e. kiss close etc and generally rejects some of my kino (although i did a bad job of building rapport)

anyway i have this other superhot girl who really likes me however i dont know in what way, she has a long term bf back home in her country but when she's with me she's always making sexually provocative statements and generally wants to talk about her sexy outfits/sexual subjects. i just felt she was an AW also and she was using me just for attention likewise so was i for social proof.

i do know that whenever im talking with her 1 on 1 everyone always looks and my stock rises. would it help my chances with my love interest if she sees me with this other hot girl? or would she think im just jumping from girl to girl cos shes not playing ball?
 

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There are many things that can raise a woman's interest, and social proof is a major one. Women are competitive and don't like losing to other women. There's a good chance her I'll will go up.

Now, onto Ýour problem with the other woman... Why are you waiting for the woman to dictate the direction of the relationship? You're going to wait forever if you wait for her to make up her mind or show an obvious sign. She's giving you the signals to make a move, so just do it already!
 

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Desdinova said:
There are many things that can raise a woman's interest, and social proof is a major one. Women are competitive and don't like losing to other women. There's a good chance her I'll will go up.

Now, onto Ýour problem with the other woman... Why are you waiting for the woman to dictate the direction of the relationship? You're going to wait forever if you wait for her to make up her mind or show an obvious sign. She's giving you the signals to make a move, so just do it already!
but wouldnt the fact that my love interest thinks i jump from girl to girl this this situation having another hot girl by my side will backfire?

i somewhat need to parade this other 1 on campus cos chances of my 1 seeing me with her are minimal unless i go to certain places..

with the other woman, i dont think she's necessarily interested, she doesn't kino me, whenever she talks about sex its about with her bf, i think shes just trying to get a reaction out of me and i feel a bit awkward cos shes telling me all about these skimpy outfits shes wearing and tells me she needs sex more than her bf, but everytime she metnions something sexual she'll mention her bf in the next sentence. i think she just wants a reaction from me cos all other guys shes friends with will try it on whereas i've been sexual but really cool about it since i met her.

im gona invite her round to my room later, cos our convo on friday she suggested we go out together (but i reckon in a context of her friends and my friends going to a party) and she invited me to visit her in her dorm room however she has a roommate, i was a bit tired on friday so i forgot to counter with her coming to mine instead and to see her reaction. i'll contact her today to come round if my love interest flakes on me. these 2 live in the same dorms and may even know each other so it could all backfire.
 

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pete101 said:
but wouldnt the fact that my love interest thinks i jump from girl to girl
Women are more concerned about their own selfish desires than what your defects are. No woman wants to be less attractive than that other slvt

whenever she talks about sex its about with her bf
That's why you insert yourself into her story before she mentions the bf. For example...

Her: I really like to be fingered
You: I've got great fingers, you should see me play piano!

This will get her wondering what sex with YOU would be like
 

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Desdinova said:
Women are more concerned about their own selfish desires than what your defects are. No woman wants to be less attractive than that other slvt


That's why you insert yourself into her story before she mentions the bf. For example...

Her: I really like to be fingered
You: I've got great fingers, you should see me play piano!

This will get her wondering what sex with YOU would be like
i see, that makes sense. my date is on with my love interest as she checked to see if we were still on, however, the time i said i'd pick her up she said she wouldn't be home at that time and asked if we could do it later or another day. i assume this is a test to see how clingy/desperate i am to see her?

i didnt want to change the day so i told her i would do something else instead at the time when we were suppose to meet and that i'd come get her at 9pm. (we were originally suppose to meet this afternoon) have i come across as too keen by offering a later time today even tho she offered later today (tho no definite time) or another day?

also, even if my date goes really well with her later, should i still let her see me with out with this other hot girl on campus during the day. im sure it would instill some jealousy in her and make her respect me more for fear of losing me and that i can get other hot girls. i need to raise IL however i can..

however if we walk past her (i.e. me and this other hot girl bumping into my love interest) do i stop to greet my love interest with a kiss on the cheek but also introduce her?

i feel that if i greet her and acknowledge her (a simple hello wouldn't be enough given our situation) but dont introduce her to the other hot girl that will make her wonder. as long as i dont act nervous or like i've been caught then she'll question whether im seeing another girl or we're just friends.
 

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#1 - when confronted with this girl saying you tried to get with that girl, but that girl rejected you, and now this girl.... whatever.... - always remember to never explain yourself outright unless absolutely necessary!
Her: My friend said you tried to get with her.
Me: Your friend doesn't know the difference between talking and flirting it seems. Do you really think i wouldn't have got with her if i was trying to?
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Me: My my... your friend must think pretty highly of herself to think I'D try to get with HER.

In both cases - you're doing the same thing as saying, "what? no, i wasn't trying to get with your friend" - but you're doing it in a much more believable way. a much less defensive way. they need to be said in a "surely you jest" kind of way... Something like Gaston from beauty and the beast lol... but it'll demean your friends friend... which is always the best thing to do when something like this happens...


Now #2 - Yes, it is great to be seen with a hot friend. I think im only slightly better than average looking (pic in profile if you wanna see) - and when i go out by myself or with buds to have a drink - i don't really notice an abundance of women looking my way. But if i go out with one of my really hot woman friends - every woman in that room is checking me out; then checking me out again... my stock raises instantly...

In your specific case - who cares if this girl thinks you jump from woman to woman? Be seen with your friend all over the place... And - never explain that she's just a friend... Never explain that she has a bf... Never explain anything.... Let the world and that girl you're after wonder!
 

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pete101 said:
asked if we could do it later or another day. i assume this is a test to see how clingy/desperate i am to see her?
Just remember this... A woman with high IL will make excuses to spend time with you.

As far as what decision to make, do what works best for YOU. Don't screw up your schedule to spend time with a woman.

even if my date goes really well with her later, should i still let her see me with out with this other hot girl on campus during the day.
Yes

however if we walk past her (i.e. me and this other hot girl bumping into my love interest) do i stop to greet my love interest with a kiss on the cheek but also introduce her?
If you're trying to seduce two targets who are in the same general area, kiss neither of them unless asked to do so. This will keep each of them jealous, competitive, and will allow their imaginations to run wild with thoughts of you.
 

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Desdinova said:
If you're trying to seduce two targets who are in the same general area, kiss neither of them unless asked to do so. This will keep each of them jealous, competitive, and will allow their imaginations to run wild with thoughts of you.
ok so u suggest if im walking by with the other hot girl and we walk past my love interest i'll just say hi with a big smile and carry on walking?

also what if she asks me who that girl is the next time i see her, what do i say? (also what if the hot girl im with asks who that is i said hi to?)
 

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its good if she's your friend and you guys set your limits. social proof is definitely helpful but if you have girls all over u or any girl all over you and your target see's this... you probably lose points. girls like guys that are *******s to everyone else but them so if your showing every girl interest or letting them be all over you they assume their going to be no different.

and for your question, just say she's your friend or good friend depending how close you are with that girl.
 

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pete101 said:
ok so u suggest if im walking by with the other hot girl and we walk past my love interest i'll just say hi with a big smile and carry on walking?
No, do NOT ignore her. Stop and have a brief conversation with her. You're not trying to piss her off. You're trying to get her more interested in you by getting her to compete for you.

also what if she asks me who that girl is the next time i see her, what do i say? (also what if the hot girl im with asks who that is i said hi to?)
Don't inform either of them of your status with the other woman. Example:

Her: so who was that girl / slvt / wh0re you were with the other day?

You: oh, that was cindy.

Her: so, what's the story with HER

You: she's in one of my classes

Her: are you dating her?

You: why? Are you jealous? ;)

In other words, you leave her clueless and guessing. Don't let her know she's the winner in her little competition.
 

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Desdinova said:
No, do NOT ignore her. Stop and have a brief conversation with her. You're not trying to piss her off. You're trying to get her more interested in you by getting her to compete for you.



Don't inform either of them of your status with the other woman. Example:

Her: so who was that girl / slvt / wh0re you were with the other day?

You: oh, that was cindy.

Her: so, what's the story with HER

You: she's in one of my classes

Her: are you dating her?

You: why? Are you jealous? ;)

In other words, you leave her clueless and guessing. Don't let her know she's the winner in her little competition.
so if i usually kiss her on the cheek i should carry on so and have a brief convo with her, but do i introduce her to this other hot girl?

that's the question. i can see it playing out that we're walking together, my love interest is coming towards us, i see her, greet her with a kiss on the cheek then make small talk then leave without introducing her to my other hot girl?

also, with the last answer of 'why? are you jealous? ;)' what if she says 'no, so are u dating her then?' somewhere along the line she's gona keep pressing me for an answer. how do i finish it with this particular convo not going further on that topic?
 

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Can't give a long answer like the above but last night, a bit of jealousy worked pretty well for me. :)

I'd been to a party with the lady I'm most interested in and at the end of the night, whilst she was chatting to her pals,I got talking to the band - three very attractive ladies. Ended-up exchanging numbers with one of them.

Well, once we were back in the car, it was all "I saw you chatting-up that woman!" etc. So I just turned-up the music & drove back to her's.

Where once again, I'm posting from her bed, beside her as she sleeps-off a very pleasurable night. :)
 
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