Have you guys heard of True Forced Lonliness? What a crock of BS.

[SXS]

I'd say 50% or more of women (American women, at least) are lard-loaded cows.

Then come to south america. Let the fat american women with their carrer there with their problems. Isn't what some politicians in the USA are doing at the moment ?

This guy proposes the same:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be7hzKN-KyA

 

[trent81]

These guys are on the internet talking about their depressions? What the hell kind of a country do I live in??? Keep this shivt to yourselves. You got a club that talks about misfortune, depression, and loneliness? Here's an idea; go for other lonely, fat girls. I'm very good looking and I even had droughts You know what I did? I fuvked ugly ass, fat women, to get my confidence up. You know how many nasty, smelly, hideous, reptilian mother fuvkin women I have been with? You know why? Cause I could feel myself sliding into the dark side. You are in the dark side my friend. Go eat some nasty pusvy, that will put some hair on your chest. To the big guy I would recommend a boost in social status. Meaning, be the guy with the drugs. American bitcves love that. GO FUVK UGLY GIRLS WHO ARE LONELY. PUVsy is puvsy man, just boost your confidence. Life is too short to sit at home behind a computer and not experience it. Go fuvk hookers too. Go jump off a cliff or a plane or something. Live like you will die tomorrow. FUVK WOMEN. There are lots of them. Go get yourself a 4 or a 3 or something. THEY ARE JUST AS LONELY AS YOU.

 

[SXS]

These guys are on the internet talking about their depressions? What the hell kind of a country do I live in. Keep this shivt to yourselves. You got a club that talks about misfortune, depression, and loneliness? Here's an idea; go for other lonely, fat girls. I'm very good looking and I even had droughts You know what I did? I fuvked ugly ass, fat women. To get my confidence up. To the big guy I would recommend a boost in social status. Meaning, be the guy with the drugs. American bitcves love that. GO FUVK UGLY GIRLS WHO ARE LONELY. PUVsy is puvsy man, just boost your confidence. Life is too short to sit at home behind a computer and not experience it. Go fuvk hookers too. Go jump off a cliff or a plane or something. Live like you will die tomorrow. FUVK WOMEN. There are lots of them. Go get yourself a 4 or a 3 or something. THEY ARE JUST AS LONELY AS YOU.

Bravo!

 

[wjh]

Look guys we're famous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFPGt-fZjNw



GET OFF MY INTERNETZ

LOL - I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but that video captured the fat guy's BBW Personals ad provided by Google's AdSense, which if you're not aware, essentially looks through your cookies for recurring themes and puts up a relevant ad whenever you visit a site with AdSense (like SoSuave).

Hilarious!

 

[edger]

"Can't find anything wrong" = still not willing to face reality and make significant changes.

But again, how can it occur to these guys to think of making significant changes, when in their minds they're absolutely 150% convinced they're doing it all right?

Self-limiting beliefs are the ultimate game killer.

It has nothing to do with a self-limiting belief. It would only be a self-limiting belief if these guys HAVEN'T made an effort and THEN claimed "true forced loneliness". But that's not what's happening here. These guys claim to have tried everything they humanly possibly can. And I believe them, why shouldn't I?

On the contrary, back to the video, I wanted to say, no offense to Dwayne or anything, not trying to prey on your emotions here, but the video's pretty funny(it can actually be taken as if it was an actual joke). It's just the way it all comes out. Again, please, don't take it as if I'm making fun of you. I understand your sorrow. Also Dwayne, not that you're a creep or anything, but the very end about 2 seconds before the video stops, comes off a little creepy, just pay a little more attention to the way you deliver speeches, especially in front of women and on an international broadcasting network, where people from all over the world can view you. Just a word to the wise brother, be careul posting these videos, because they can come back to bite you in the ass. It's 2009, virtually every woman strolls the internet these days(especially YouTube and the like), the last thing you want is to be in a bar or club and have a chick recognize you as "the guy that ranted on YouTube about true forced loneliness". I'm sure you can guess why. Anynomous is key when it comes to these things. Why do you think I haven't shown my face on here.

 

[Mr. Me]

>> I don't get why they call it forced because no one is forcing them to do anything >>

Like Sr8Up said: "Any group that uses the word "Forced" in their title is begging for people to feel sorry for them."

What they're doing, it seems to me, is portraying themselves in a way to elicit sympathy. To feel as if you're helpless as a little baby and your lot in life being sympathized with is kind of a cousin to feeling loved, you know? It's not love, but receiving pity can *feel* like love, and in the absence of love, it's a short term manner of obtaining those feelings.

And this is a good juncture to tie in edger's question: "These guys claim to have tried everything they humanly possibly can. And I believe them, why shouldn't I?"

Obviously, they haven't tried *everything*. They have yet to try what actually works. They see guys with women. They even see fat, plain looking guys with women. Geez, they could find a plain, fat woman who might hang with them, but they don't want that. So they know deep down inside that there's a way - otherwise they wouldn't have tried at all, right? That "I've done everything possible!" is a common disorder in reasoning. It's negative reasoning tricks your mind can play on you. Keep that in mind when you hear sweeping, blanket universal statements such as "It NEVER happens, it's ALWAYS the same, EVERYONE, NOBODY..."

I'd venture that at the root of this is their discomfort of having to do what's really needed is far greater to them than the pain of being sans female companionship. They would have to make some major, major changes, inside and out. That's not easy. It means changing entrenched habits. They don't desire to do that. Those that do, do, and pull out of that rut. But these guys don't. What they really want, is a woman to want them just as they are so they don't have to change. They rationalize that they shouldn't have to make any changes either. And, because women don't respond favorably, they're getting frustrated and that's leading them to anger and bitterness.

You know, when you keep trying to fly off the roof because you see birds doing it and you keep hitting your head on the cement, you don't curse the cement. You learn to work with gravity. These guys want gravity to accept them and let them fly. In effect, they're defying gravity (the way things work/the way the world turns/whatever you'd like to call it) and defying gravity HURTS. They haven't figured out that when things hurt, it means you're going about it incorrectly.

 

[Luthor Rex]

Update:

There is a Part 2 for the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1eQCTPNAy4

Also Dwayne thinks we are losers:

I could care less what they or anybody else calls me. I find it funny how those people on the forum don't have any balls.

They've already have been exposed as losers anyway. >=]

He also said this:

I really don't worry about them at all. They don't hurt me none.

Obviously he does if he's made a second video about us!

Oh I feel like such a diva being on youtube! Soon we'll all be on Oprah having a heart to heart with the TFL guys! Maybe we can have a group hug and cry! *giggles*

/sarcasm

 

[Mr. Me]

Hey, I like the music. It's like the music they play on the local cable news to make it sound like whatever they're reporting is important.

Highlighting what people wrote about them... reminds me of being in high school, doesn't it? Wow, I haven't been in high school since 1972.

There's probably a good reason women aren't interested in these guys, ya think?

Honestly, maybe we shouldn't be either. Who the f@ck wants to deal with this childishness? I'm out of this thread.

On another topic: Hey: Inglourious Basterds! What a great flick! See it.

 

[jophil28]

See: Michael Jordan, NBA, 1984-1991. Even HE needed a quality coach to get to the next level.

THis is how all high achievers train and improve. Every Champion has a coach/mentor/motivator. The benefits are many and varied,. Encouragement, blocking complacency, ego deflation, pointing out small but insidious bad techniques..

THis forum acheives that purpose in many ways.

 

[jophil28]

Self-limiting beliefs are the ultimate game killer.

Yes indeed, but I would go a little further.." Self-satisfied beliefs are the ultimate game killer."

 

[Warrior74]

Update:

There is a Part 2 for the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1eQCTPNAy4

Also Dwayne thinks we are losers:



He also said this:



Obviously he does if he's made a second video about us!

Oh I feel like such a diva being on youtube! Soon we'll all be on Oprah having a heart to heart with the TFL guys! Maybe we can have a group hug and cry! *giggles*

/sarcasm

The new world order is gonna get us. I for one welcome our Reptialian overloads and will be the first to volunteer for the fema camps under the swastika air landing strip in the colorado airport (****ing creepy murals btw, check it out, sinister). Who do you think is gonna fight these guys? Some lame who cries over being lonely or a man who takes control of his own mind and life? Blame everyone but yourselves boys, that will make you a man. Because whining is dead sexy. And doing something about your life and your world is just to real. Stand up, get a woman, get a gun, get informed, be ready.

 

[edger]

Obviously, they haven't tried *everything*. They have yet to try what actually works. They see guys with women. They even see fat, plain looking guys with women.

But they can't think of anything else to try anymore. They've tried following this guy, that guy, that guy, and that guy; this site, that site, that site, and that site; they've tried everything they know of and heard about, but to no avail. These guys need to be cut some slack.

 

[Warrior74]

But they can't think of anything else to try anymore. They've tried following this guy, that guy, that guy, and that guy; this site, that site, that site, and that site; they've tried everything they know of and heard about, but to no avail. These guys need to be cut some slack.

Are you one of these guys?

Okay. Let's say they have tried everything under the sun. For years and years on end. Then I'm sorry for them. As for the big guy. It just offends my manhood to see a grown man crying about his problems on the internet. When you post something online, your posting for the whole world to see. How is that masculine or attractive? Do you see how people could react to that video in the way that most guys here have? Do you see how its the opposite of the spirit we try to have? To just give up and throw your hands up? Even if you give up, then just give up and shut up. But to give up and to keep whining about it is something children do. I have a kid, I know and I teach my kids keep trying. But whining is not acceptable.

I'm not against what they are saying per se, things with women these days are ****ed up, most women are only worth a shag and nothing more. But I am against being a quitter. I've struggled too hard in life to start quitting now. I came from the middle, down to the bottom and pulled myself back up with hard work. I'm not going to quit because it's hard. Quitting is easy. I've done it enough to know. But doing the hard work is so much more rewarding.

I hope those guys find what they are looking for. I'd like to hear what their plan is to solve their problem. Do they have one? Like I ask my new world order conspiracy friends, what is the plan to change the situation? Sadly, they never have one. They just live in a state of helplessness and hopelessness, and that's not a place where I want to live. Give me solutions or stop griping about the problem.

 

[edger]

Are you one of these guys?

No, I could personally care less if I ever get into another relationship with a chick. I'm not missing out on anything. As long as I can bust my nut on attractive women on a consistent basis, is all I care about. I'm not one of these guys, however, I can identify with these guys when they say "they've tried everything, but their efforts don't pay off". I can't say my efforts never pay off, just most of the time they don't. That's why I'll only get laid very seldomly(it's been more than 2 yrs that I haven't had a successful pick-up. The worst it's ever been for me since I entered the mating arena)by an attractive woman that I actually wanna f*ck. I'm not gonna lie either, sometimes it's my fault why I don't get laid, as on rare occassions I'll p*ssy out after getting vibes and not approach, or lots of times, I won't cold-approach a random hottie I see. But back to what I'm saying, I can relate to these guys in how putting your best game forward and making a strong effort, doesn't pay off(doesn't pay off most of the time in my experiences at least).

It just offends my manhood to see a grown man crying about his problems on the internet. When you post something online, your posting for the whole world to see. How is that masculine or attractive? Do you see how people could react to that video in the way that most guys here have? Do you see how its the opposite of the spirit we try to have? To just give up and throw your hands up? Even if you give up, then just give up and shut up. But to give up and to keep whining about it is something children do. I have a kid, I know and I teach my kids keep trying. But whining is not acceptable.

I'm not against what they are saying per se, things with women these days are ****ed up, most women are only worth a shag and nothing more. But I am against being a quitter. I've struggled too hard in life to start quitting now. I came from the middle, down to the bottom and pulled myself back up with hard work. I'm not going to quit because it's hard. Quitting is easy. I've done it enough to know. But doing the hard work is so much more rewarding.

I hope those guys find what they are looking for. I'd like to hear what their plan is to solve their problem. Do they have one? Like I ask my new world order conspiracy friends, what is the plan to change the situation? Sadly, they never have one. They just live in a state of helplessness and hopelessness, and that's not a place where I want to live. Give me solutions or stop griping about the problem.

I of course agree it comes off unattractive to the opposite sex to see these guys ranting about their failures with women. Women obviously wanna know you're a player that snags b*tches left and right. I wouldn't be caught dead posting a video on YouTube like this. If I were to rant about women, I'd do it anonymously, on some message board, like here, where my face couldn't be seen. I don't know what was going on in their heads when they chose to make these videos. But they did.

Again though, you need to understand why these guys have given up. They've tried all they can, and at this point, after exhausting all their options, don't know where to turn. They honestly don't know where to turn. So, I can perfectly understand why a guy would choose to give up. It's easier said than done to criticize and say, "Why throw your hands up and give up?". Again, put yourself in their shoes. As the old Native American Indian saying goes, "A man will never understand what another man has gone through, until he's walked a mile in his moccassins". There is so much truth in that.

 

[Warrior74]

How do you know I haven't walked that mile? Maybe I have. Maybe that's why I know what I know and I stand behind it.

I did three years single with no clue after college. To the point of being angry bitter and frustrated. I mean extremely frustrated. I hated women, I hated myself, my life. Everything. I felt it was some conspiracy against me. I would be the only guy getting frisked at the club, because I had such a such a negative aura, the bouncers felt like I was trouble. I would try to hard with women, I would be too nic or too mean, I had no balance. I hated the women I couldn't have. I felt like it was something wrong with me. I had a negative view of the world.

Then one night I went out and I just didn't care anymore. I'm just gonna have some fun. Dressed up in the best gear I had and went to the club with my slacker friends. They ragged on me about my outfit, who cares right? Asked a random chic to dance. Had no outcome dependency what so ever. Next thing I know, two other girls see me dancing with her and they ask me to dance when she leaves. Now I got girls fighting to dance with me...I ended up dating two of them. Boosted my confidence, started meeting more women. Started taking chances in my life, got a better job, got a better place, a better car, new friends, met more girls. Got a girlfriend. For years life got better and better.

My problem was me. It wasn't anyone else. It was nothing holding me back but my beliefs. When I stopped caring, and just had fun, life changed. When I started taking chances and stopped being scared, life changed. When I was willing to risk, I was rewarded. I will never go back to that darkness again, its a horrible place and if you are around people who feed on that, they will help to keep you there. I had to leave some friends to get out of that place, these guys could try leaving TFL and doing something else, anything else instead of dwelling in a pit of negative energy. They constantly recreate their environment and reinforce their reality by dwelling on it. Change your mindset, change your life. It's real. What do they have to lose? They have nothing now. It's only when you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.

I would send all of those guys to zenmack.com for some tough love and hard work to be honest.

 

[wjh]

these guys could try leaving TFL and doing something else, anything else instead of dwelling in a pit of negative energy. They constantly recreate their environment and reinforce their reality by dwelling on it.

One has to wonder to what effect this behavior is reinforced by those who sympathize with them. Is this attention not rewarding to them? I think it is.

It's the crybaby getting attention. It makes them want to do it more, in a sick and perverse way.

 

[edger]

How do you know I haven't walked that mile? Maybe I have. Maybe that's why I know what I know and I stand behind it.

Maybe you have walked that mile, but you have to also realize what's going on inside their minds right now. They are at a dead end. They've exhausted all their options, they are confused, they don't know where to turn, and that's what you have to look at, that's the underlying issue here. I can completely understand why they'd have the outlook they currently have. You fortunately were able to escape your situation, but it's apparent these guys can't(if they could they would). How do you know Dwayne and the rest haven't already tried the "I don't give a f*ck, whatever happens, happens, no expectations" attitude, only to have that fail for them as well? I would guess they've tried that approach.

 

[Warrior74]

Maybe you have walked that mile, but you have to also realize what's going on inside their minds right now. They are at a dead end. They've exhausted all their options, they are confused, they don't know where to turn, and that's what you have to look at, that's the underlying issue here. I can completely understand why they'd have the outlook they currently have. You fortunately were able to escape your situation, but it's apparent these guys can't(if they could they would). How do you know Dwayne and the rest haven't already tried the "I don't give a f*ck, whatever happens, happens, no expectations" attitude, only to have that fail for them as well? I would guess they've tried that approach.

Bootless arguement. As bible says, the poor will always be with us. So be it with the losers as well. Horses to water and that. I'm done.

 

[Trader]

These guys from 'Forced loneliness' are instictively *repulsive* to us men. Why are we instinctively repulsed by them?

From the bible on sexuality: 'Sex and Character'

"It is only women who demand pity from other people, who weep before them and claim their sympathy...a woman provokes the compassion of strangers in order to weep with them and be able to pity herself more than she already does. It is not too much to say that even when a woman weeps alone she is weeping with those that she knows would pity her and so intensifying her self-pity by the thought of the pity of others.

Self-pity is eminently a female characteristic; a woman will associate herself with others, make herself the object of pity for these others, and then at once, deeply stirred, begin to weep with them about herself, the poor thing.

Perhaps nothing so stirs the feeling of shame in a man as to detect in himself the impulse towards this self-pity, this state of mind in which the subject becomes the object."

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I don't understand how Edger can *feel* for these guys. These guys aren't even trying to improve their lot. I can respect a man who tries and fails over and over again, but I cannot respect a man who gives up and then demands pity.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

That Bill guy was talking about why one of these less attractive looking fans of his couldn't get any men. He kept saying "because YOU looked at her! And you judged her on how she looked."

Y'know how he can make this all go away? Get with a less attractive woman who doesn't have much going on for herself! He wants someone who wants more than what he has to offer. He wants what isn't attracted towards him.

There's plenty of women he can be intimate with. The problem is, is that he doesn't want an ugly woman.