Have you discovered the POWER of mirroring

[George Gordon]

Originally posted by Sir Shags Alot:
I tried this and I feel it is a good way to check interest.

It's a better way to create CONNECTION however!

I don't mirror how the chick sits, I sit strait up giving her the impression of confidence. I usually use my looks to get interest.

Look, When I mirror, I still retain my character; I make a compromise between us: If she picks up her cup of tea and meekly takes a sip, I will pick up my cup of coffee confidently and take a sip. With gestures and body movement, the ACTION is Important, NOT the manner.

To my knowledge mirror is kinda taking the role and mood your interest. This is what I feel about it.

Don't you think that you want to be able to be fully aware of what her present situation is? This demonstrates an understanding, which I can't stress the importance of. Besides, I think Ross Jeffries said this: In order for you to change a woman's state, you first have to be aware of her present one; otherwise you have no idea what you're working with and the course to take.

ie) You have an unknown color on your painting canvas, but you want green. However, if you knew that you already had yellow on your canvas, and you knew that yellow+blue=green, how easy would it be to create green? . . . you just add some blue. But, if you don't know the present color, you can't transition . . . you know what I mean? Maybe your original color is red--which you don't know--and now you add blue . . . you will not have green. Enough of this stupid analogy, but you get the point.

I feel you should mirror her interests not her actions or mood.

Actions: YES; Moods: NO, empathise with those.

I mentioned earlier that I mirror her interests. I ask her what she likes to do when she is not at <place where at>.

This is the verbal aspect of mirroring called Echoing. We know that body language accounts for like 80% of the action and feelings being emitted and recieved between interacting people, so if you believe that echoing her verbally works (20%), you should then really understand what you're missing with (physical) mirroring.

If you are using mirroring get the initial contact, give it a try, if you mirroring dosn't work time to grab the balls and make a cold intro. Try to think of somthing situational.

Mirroring is, as aznbreakerjrey clarified, SUPPLEMENTARY. I think I stated that somewhere in this thread.

In fact, I am working on a Field Report that I think you will all find highly insightful . . . at least, for me, I discovered something ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC! A KEY comprehension to approaching. In it, you will see why mirroring is so IMPORTANT (along with pacing, which is generally mental mirroring) to establish RAPPORT!

-George Gordon

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[Nicholas Hill]

Originally posted by Hawkeye:
Brilliant, so acting like a mime who obsesively mimics the suttle movements of a person can get you in bed with them....
rrriiggghhhhtttttt.

Sarcasm

 

[drZaius09]

Although I don't doubt your story, I must say that I would NEVER notice if someone was doing this to me, and I have to think it would be hard for anybody to notice something like this, especially if they were with other people and/or immersed in conversation. I would be inclined to think that a practice such as this would be better suited for face-to-face contact, as in when you are with a person in a group or actually talking to them. I will attempt your method though, and see what results I get.

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[George Gordon]

Originally posted by drZaius09:
Although I don't doubt your story, I must say that I would NEVER notice if someone was doing this to me, and I have to think it would be hard for anybody to notice something like this, especially if they were with other people and/or immersed in conversation.

But this is exactly the point: you do NOT want them to be aware of this consciously! It penetrates the sub-conscious like the object to your left that is in the room where you are sitting right now; in your perphiral vision. Still looking at this screen, throw your attention on it, the first object that catches your attention because it is so big or bright or whatever. Now you are aware of it, right? . . . However, just because your conscious awareness was not on it before, do you really think that you still didn't percieve it? and thus, be influenced by it?

drZaius09, get back to us with your results. I would be very interested to hear what YOU have to say.

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[Tantric]

I DEFINITLY agree...

I haven't mirrored as much as i should, but from what i found, girls ARE more responsive. Occasionally I'll do it at my job (sales) and the sale becomes easier to close, girl becomes more friendlier.

I remember when i first started though i kept having the thoughts of, "she KNOWS what i'm doing..." To prove myself wrong, i practiced on my fvck buddy when we were out. I copied everything to a "t". I thought she picked up on it. I eventually told her what i was doing later on, and what miroring was, and told me that she didn't notice.

 

[Brazilian_Blues_Boy]

I'm in a hurry right now, but later this week, I'll post somethings I read in a book I have called "The Body Talks"
It has ILLUSTRATED examples of body language, and techniques to mirroring.

BBB

 

[Ridingthelightning]

Mirroring works wonders, it really does. I was talking to a girl and she crossed her arms, so I did the same, she leaned up against the wall, so I did the same, she positioned her body towards me, so I positioned mine towards her. She really opened up to a lot of that and laughed at some really stupid things I said, which weren't funny.
Mirroring works.


One question, if they tilt thier head a little, do you tilt yours in the same direction, or the opposite?

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[Hawkeye]

pathetic....really. <shakeing my head in wonder>.

Whats next ? before you know you guys are going to be like shadows to these women ur never going to meet.

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[George Gordon]

Originally posted by Hawkeye:
pathetic....really. <shakeing my head in wonder>.

Whats next ? before you know you guys are going to be like shadows to these women ur never going to meet.

The truth is, Hawkeye, that by mirroring, you ARE meeting the girl; at least in the same sense as you are by echoing, except it's on a higher, unconscious level. The way you communicate with your body is ten times more effect than the way you communicate with words. The body is not as deceptive as words. For example: womenese.

The whole purpose of attempting to elicit information from a woman is to create a connection; a bond of commonality. You can spend an hour trying to do this with words, yet you can achieve this with mirroring within minutes!

But hey . . . if you want to be a sceptic, fine--but you are being ignorant to extreme POWER!

 

[Nicholas Hill]

Heyefsee, heyefsee... come to me, heyefsee. Join the dark side... if only you knew the POWER of mirroring... you would be a force unchallenged and have everything you've ever wanted.

So come, heyefsee, come see the possibilities...

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[MattB]

Originally posted by Brazilian_Blues_Boy:
I'm in a hurry right now, but later this week, I'll post somethings I read in a book I have called "The Body Talks"
It has ILLUSTRATED examples of body language, and techniques to mirroring.

BBB

What is the name of the author?

 

[George Gordon]

Bump . . . we're still anticipating your advice.

Originally posted by Brazilian_Blues_Boy:
I'm in a hurry right now, but later this week, I'll post somethings I read in a book I have called "The Body Talks"
It has ILLUSTRATED examples of body language, and techniques to mirroring.

BBB

 

[YOGI BEAR]

Can someone plz tell me what tha hell is mirroring??? I'm totally lost here.

 

[George Gordon]

Originally posted by YOGI BEAR:
Can someone plz tell me what tha hell is mirroring??? I'm totally lost here.

This thread might help you out:
http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020923.html

Also:
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/02_How_to_Get_Started/mirroring.shtml

 

[Brazilian_Blues_Boy]

The Body Talks, by Pierre Weil !!

 

[George Gordon]

Originally posted by George Gordon
Nicholas, I'm curious as to what you were FEELING when you discovered that there was some kind of connection developing? Did it seem like you were going into a trance; there was only you and your subject in the universe . . . a lucid state of mind . . . like you were starting to feel a bizarre bond with your subject? A deep and personal link?

Does any of this sound like it fit your experience(s)?

Coming back to this post with a greater comprehension of the subjects of mirroring and awareness (NLP, etc.), I thought I'd clarify a few things.

1) Uptime: is one of two extreme states of awareness. It deals with the ability to focus on what your senses are absorbing, flooding your senses without filtering; the external world. Shut the inner dialogue off! and Listen.

Contrary to what I said above, in quote, uptime is actually the opposite of trance . . .

2) Downtime is the other extreme. This is trance. Where your awareness is focused on your internal world. Senses slip from consciousness; trance is not an absolute for there are degrees. The deeper the trance, the more aware you become of your internal world.

!GG!

 

[duke007]

This worked for me unintentionally today.

A fairly average Asian girl was sitting in front of me in a lecture, so DJing was the furthest thing from my mind.

The lecturer went along the aisles handing out notes but he missed her row. She meekly turned around looking to get his attention but he already had his back to her.

So then I said, "Excuse me" at the exact moment she did. Jinx.

Furthermore, there was a careers fair just outside the lecture and I had a Holden showbag. I placed the showbag on the seat next to me without realising she had the exact same showbag also to the right of her. At the conclusion of the lecture we reached for our showbags at the exact same time.

We then both automatically wryly smiled at each other. It was the perfect opening if I was interested. 2 separate mirroring incidents must be pretty rare.

 

[B9]

Great post this, lads

Know it's a tad old, but I like it. Wasn't aware of the concept of mirroring before this. Definitely gonna try it out.

Thanks.

 

[StockTrader]

At a Tony Robbins seminar I went to last year, the audience did some mirroring. It's freaky stuff!! I was partnered up with two other women (just my luck!) and one person would sit however they choose to. It could be slouched, could be straight, legs crossed, legs uncrossed. And then one of us would sit next to them and the 3rd person would match the 2nd person to the first persons body language. Everything from their facial expression to arm position to the space between their feet. Making an exact replica. Being the 3rd person was fun, getting to move this hot girls legs and arms around (ahhh, that was back in the AFC days though ).

The 1st person was told to think of something, and often times the 2nd person would be thinking something very similar because they mirrored them. It creates rapport and commonality. You get in synch with each other.

Try it out in public. Mirror someone, get into their state, and notice what you're thinking about.

Another benefit of this is that you focus on other people and not on yourself (eliminates nervousness and self consciousness).

I tried something similar last spring in college. I was still kinda AFC, a young jedi if you will, but it was fun experimenting with different things. In one of my classes, I sat as if I was the most confident and sexiest guy to ever step foot on campus. It was a trip. The body language wasn't exaggerated or over the top; it was relaxed and at ease. Simply by using your body, you can change the way you feel and the way you think.

During a lecture and when I was sitting next to some hot girl, I'd go into my "peak confident state" and confidence would be radiating from every pore of my body. 9 times out of 10, the girl sitting next to me would ask me about something the professor said or say some little comment to me. Then I'd give them great EC, make some little comment, give them kino, etc.

Now contrast that with being slouched in your chair, staring off into space and disinterested with the whole thing. Women would rarely say much to you in that kind of state.

Mirroring is a great secret. Have fun and experiment with it.