Have you been noticing more normie-tier men with foreign wives?
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Except for the fact that I have lost 10 lbs of weight so far on a diet that is well documented on another thread under the Health and Wellness section, or that is in the context of employment where everyone is getting the same pay and I recently startee and already I am outperforming everyone (ie I had 15 sales one week when the average was like 7).
In fact, its things like this is to WHY guys would want to get foreign wives. They work hard, do all of the self-improvement and seeing other guys get all the attention here that they feel are undeserving chads/tyrones/chadrones and they of themselves aren't doing that great in the local dating market, so they go overseas and find someone who can appreciate their worth and take a roll of a trad-wife rather than a super-entitled local woman who has a laundry list of demands and brings NOTHING to the table. Social media, dating apps and western feminism just ruining everything.
(note: this is not a spiritually inspired post. I'm trying to sober up spiritually and realize that there must be some spiritual deficits to even letting allow this to bother me in the first place and I'm working on that now. When my mind is renewed whatever I just wrote feels silly when seen under the correct filter. Do not quote me on anything I wrote up here.)
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Pierce Manhammer
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Its great you're making progress on losing weight and your job is going so well.
Not to point out the obvious, pointing out the obvious: Theres work to be done, most likely a few year's worth, but do not let it stop you, do not fall off the bandwagon.
I just wanted to cheer you on.
Its great you're making progress on losing weight and your job is going so well.
Not to point out the obvious, pointing out the obvious: Theres work to be done, most likely a few year's worth, but do not let it stop you, do not fall off the bandwagon.
I just wanted to cheer you on.
More traditional foreign women without a good independent source of income/education do tend to be more accommodating when it comes to a guy's looks. The catch is they will expect the man to pay for everything.
That is not necessarily a bad thing if they are simple and low maintenance and family oriented. But a lot of them just want a sponsor...a guy to pay for dinner, drinks, entertainment, holidays etc and will drop him as soon as they find someone richer or get tired of faking affection.
And the problem is that with social media and so on most women are very aspirational when it comes to lifestyle.
That is not necessarily a bad thing if they are simple and low maintenance and family oriented. But a lot of them just want a sponsor...a guy to pay for dinner, drinks, entertainment, holidays etc and will drop him as soon as they find someone richer or get tired of faking affection.
And the problem is that with social media and so on most women are very aspirational when it comes to lifestyle.
Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.
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Agreed. However, I did acknowledge there was a negative mindset at the end of the post. Sometimes, these things just hit you out of the air. Honestly, even when I had that past 2012 "relationship", there was allot of insecurity and being affected by what she did or did not do, etc.... and what I have just posted about today is really childsplay compared to THAT as I'm not really emotionally invested to any extent with anyone at all in that office. I have no crush with anyone. Therefore, we are just talking about pure ego here anyway.
Even if I were to find someone and enter into a relationship, then the same insecurities that would have prompted this type of post, would manifest in another way and raise it's ugly head and end up planting doubts about her. It's definitely something to keep a handle on. Even other posters make threads about their relationship/break-up issues and have similar negative mindset issues that contribute to the break-up or losing a girl altogether post-break-up. Here we are not even talking about that so I should not be affected at all. Besides, there is a big world out there apart from the office. If I talk about women from other parts of the office/cleaning ladies, etc... then there doesn't tend to be much issues there.
Some office spaces might have these cliques where you could feel on the "outside'. This is actually quite common across the board (ie especially if I'm outperforming everyone and I'm a recent hire!). These are also well documented on reddit threads. Anyway, all I can say for now without risking to hijack this thread, lol!
Pierce Manhammer
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Some guys are cool with paying for sex, even with their wives, instead of being in a relationship that's all about mutual craving for each other.
Back in the day, marriages were mostly about money and power, not love. Even now, some guys are okay with a deal where they hand over the cash, and in return, they get a sexual relationship. They like it because everything's upfront, and they know what they're getting without the messy emotional stuff.
For these men, it's like a business transaction. They don't have to guess what their partner wants because it's all been agreed on. In these deals, the guy usually gets exclusive rights to the sexual side of things, and the lady gets financial stability or some other perks.
But here's the problem: when you treat a relationship like a business deal, it can get pretty cold. The woman might feel like she's just a commodity, and the guy could end up with a lot of power over her. Plus, it can get lonely. Without real love or emotional connection, the relationship might feel empty. Add to this that the next guy offering even a slighter better deal may cause the demise of your relationship.
On the flip side, relationships built on both partners really wanting each other are different. They're about equal give-and-take, emotional bonds, and going through life's ups and downs together. Sex is just one piece of a bigger puzzle that includes love, respect, and having a good time together.
In short, while the idea of a clear-cut, pay-for-play relationship might seem simpler to some guys, it misses out on the deeper stuff that makes being with someone special. Relationships are about more than just transactions; they're about building something real together that's about more than just money.
Back in the day, marriages were mostly about money and power, not love. Even now, some guys are okay with a deal where they hand over the cash, and in return, they get a sexual relationship. They like it because everything's upfront, and they know what they're getting without the messy emotional stuff.
For these men, it's like a business transaction. They don't have to guess what their partner wants because it's all been agreed on. In these deals, the guy usually gets exclusive rights to the sexual side of things, and the lady gets financial stability or some other perks.
But here's the problem: when you treat a relationship like a business deal, it can get pretty cold. The woman might feel like she's just a commodity, and the guy could end up with a lot of power over her. Plus, it can get lonely. Without real love or emotional connection, the relationship might feel empty. Add to this that the next guy offering even a slighter better deal may cause the demise of your relationship.
On the flip side, relationships built on both partners really wanting each other are different. They're about equal give-and-take, emotional bonds, and going through life's ups and downs together. Sex is just one piece of a bigger puzzle that includes love, respect, and having a good time together.
In short, while the idea of a clear-cut, pay-for-play relationship might seem simpler to some guys, it misses out on the deeper stuff that makes being with someone special. Relationships are about more than just transactions; they're about building something real together that's about more than just money.
True. However, with the matter of break-ups and divorces, it tends to be more devestating when something built together is torn apart and you realize whatever you thought was real, didn't really matter that much in the end to her. With transactional relationships, it would still meet the necessary physical needs, and lets face it, a woman is still a woman, and if you can get a false emotional connection watching a youtube video of a beautiful woman singing at you in a hot music video, or an ASMR video, then I'm sure that the quality of emotional conneciton, in even a transactional relationship would be better than that and satisfying in its own right.
When I divorced with my ex-wife, there was virtually less emotional baggage associated with her. I don't post much about her except for the fact I got married and had some experience together with her. It's usually referred to 2014 in my post-references but you can see there is a different energy when describing her compared to the 2012 ex-gf, then there is more of a more deeper hurt (ie despite being on the right concerning ending that relationship). That sums up the difference between something that's transactional and emotional with me in terms of post-break-up/seperation. I mean you made a point that a woman can go with a guy with a bigger and better deal, but then you wouldn't care that much since there will always be another woman anyway (ie assuming you are in the position to buy). It's not like you'd be pining over her since it wasn't that real to begin with.
Pierce Manhammer
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It depends on your outlook and what you're wired for. I'm wired for intimacy, I probably would not be able to perform well with a pro - it's not just hydraulics for me. I do not have any connection with stuff on stream - none, nothing.
I'm coming from a mindset of someone who is thirsty enough that these types of things, including transactional would work, and by extension, what @MatureDJ has brought up in this thread, about foreign wives, etc.... A cactus is built differently from a water lilly as one has a different level of access to water. It's unfortunate that the differences of experience and minset is that extreme that you find that my angle, which could describe other people (ie some of these videos have hundreds of thousands and even millions of views, that means SOMEONE other than me is watching them for whatever reason) unrelatable.
However, I respect the fact you helped me out with that scam and don't want to argue with you. I was just expressing my point of view. Hopefully as I get less thirsty, if the work I'm doing leads to results and/or a relationship, then these things that I might like right now tends to just fall off and I'll be re-wired and operating on a higher level like you are. However, until then, I have to make the best I have with what I have to work with. For example, when I had relationships in the past, my interest in looking at some types of youtube music videos fell like a stone. I still liked music, but not necessarily that type of music videos during that time. You need to be thirsty enough for it to click.
Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.
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Pierce Manhammer
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As I stated before, there’s nothing wrong, with having a different mindset. Everyone is built differently of different things and experiences the summation of our life, experience and upbringing and culture and exposure makes us who we are.
I’m not sure if I agree that being thirsty would make me change my mind about this, as there have been times in my life, when I was in fact that thirsty guy and I felt then as I do now.
There truly is no reason to argue we are just juxtaposing our beliefs and experiences. That’s all.
I guess what I’m getting at is that we are not all clones, and there’s more than one way to perceive life and our experiences. And that we congregate here because we are interested in sharing this things with others that have the same stated goal : attracting women. Hopefully we learn from one another.
I’m not sure if I agree that being thirsty would make me change my mind about this, as there have been times in my life, when I was in fact that thirsty guy and I felt then as I do now.
There truly is no reason to argue we are just juxtaposing our beliefs and experiences. That’s all.
I guess what I’m getting at is that we are not all clones, and there’s more than one way to perceive life and our experiences. And that we congregate here because we are interested in sharing this things with others that have the same stated goal : attracting women. Hopefully we learn from one another.
Since 2017, a year I'd mark that I'd see a major shift, I would say that technology has not been the same as times prior to that year, and even more in the 00s or earlier. I can't venture to guess what time in your life you that thirsty guy, but is it fair to hazard a guess it was before the big technology bombardment of smartphones, tablets, VR-headsets and these other gadgets? Having a Tablet that can sleep next to and virtually watch anything I think has really pushed things over the edge with me teck wise. So you can create all sorts of sensory stimulation all over the place. Maybe listen to a lady talk about an interesting topic to put you to sleep, etc... .
I think I was more motivated with women prior to 2017 and noticed a shift after I purchased a 58 inch TV, Tablet, and then later projector and VR-headset to produce larger videos either on the wall or virutal reality. However, I rarely use these things in that way much. Perhaps it was used like that more in 2021 and 2022 but I think that phase is losing steam, especially with this new job I'm in, and I don't have the energy to go there. What I'm getting at, is the same youtube video you watch on your computer, can be a 360 degree video, or very large video on a VR-headset, or it could be a book-sized presentation if it's on a Tablet which could make it more alluring than if it is on a desktop or smartphone. The video formats seems to be more invasive because of tech then say having a normal TV in the living room 40 years ago.
Pierce Manhammer
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I have never used technology in that way. My thrust probably was at its height in 2007, and that’s when I began correcting it. I tienes things around in a few years
Yeah, 2007 was the stone age compared to today. When I looked at youtube vids at that time, it was really because there were lots of pirated movies and some nice Doctor Who episodes that you could watch for free as someone uploaded it there, plus allot of other good content that was uploaded. It was not commercialized as it is today where you have to rent or buy everything. You didn't have as many "personalized" videos, if at all, compared to today (ie someone talking into a video camera/asmr things, etc...).
Well, what did cause your thirst in 2007? You were married before and had kids?
Well, what did cause your thirst in 2007? You were married before and had kids?
Pierce Manhammer
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Yup.
It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Fortune_favors_the_bold
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I'm half blood so spent my life in both sides on Europe.
Local men with foregn wife? yeah say it plenty of times since I was a kid any time I was in south Europe already in the early 90s.
When I was in eastern Europe instead never seens a single time a local man with a foreign woman while the opposite was common.
All this passport bro thing is nothing new, it has always been like this in cultures where local women were either unbearable or less attractive.
Local men with foregn wife? yeah say it plenty of times since I was a kid any time I was in south Europe already in the early 90s.
When I was in eastern Europe instead never seens a single time a local man with a foreign woman while the opposite was common.
All this passport bro thing is nothing new, it has always been like this in cultures where local women were either unbearable or less attractive.
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My lonely cousin who is stuck in the north by himself and has been a loner for a decade is now marrying a Pinay he met online.
I married a Chinese 15 years ago too, so who am I to judge.
Some Pinay chicks are hot asf.
I married a Chinese 15 years ago too, so who am I to judge.
Some Pinay chicks are hot asf.