Has Mr. Hooker fvcked himself?

[Naughty Ninja]

So the 'real man's hero' Mr. Hooker has snagged himself an 18 Y.O. left his wife, embarrassed his near same age daughter to no end and made a public spectacle out of himself to 'follow his heart'..

What happens when his live in 18 Y.O girlfriend who has acheived the same 'infamy' as he just did starts getting hit on by numerous other 'real men' behind his back knowing she's 'into older men' from the news reports etc? Men who may have more going for them, are better looking and so on? (The media coverage has made HER a target for other daddies etc.)

Mr. Hooker will need some SERIOUS 'game' to keep his impressionable young hottie in check.

IF she does decide to leave Mr. Hooker at some point. How many women if any will want him? Will he continue to have to go after 18 year olds for life?

 

[AlNess]

Hooker deserves to not have his daughter (currently aged 17) ever speak to him again.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Hooker deserves to not have his daughter (currently aged 17) ever speak to him again.

More like Mr. Hooker deserves to have his daughter 'date' older men too. Perhaps they can all hang out together on Jerry Springer. That guys an a$$hat and anyone attmepting to 'defend' that weirdo sh1t isn't fooling anyone on what 'real men' they are.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

If he didn't sleep with her prior to her turning 18, what exactly is the problem?

The below are several.

How "Alpha" will Mr. Hooker be seen by the general public?

How "Alpha" does the 18 Y.O.'s friends think he is? (If she has or had any at this point.)

Will they have to hang out with her crowd and hope to be 'accepted'? Would people his age 'accept' their 'love' and go out with them? How about both families? What about strangers who see 'dad with his daughter' and may find it odd he's holding her hand? Will "Alpha" Mr. Hooker be able to give PDA's to his 18 y.o. lover?

What about new employment for the infamous Mr. Hooker? Will he take his 'soulmate' to work functions he may be required to attend?

There are probably loads of weird situations they will find themselves in. Or will they become a pair of social recluses?

Think about it. That dude isn't Alpha he's more of the Little Rascal's Alphalpha. Pathetic nerd.

 

[davewe]

The below are several.

How "Alpha" will Mr. Hooker be seen by the general public?

How "Alpha" does the 18 Y.O.'s friends think he is? (If she has or had any at this point.)

Will they have to hang out with her crowd and hope to be 'accepted'? Would people his age 'accept' their 'love' and go out with them? How about both families? What about strangers who see 'dad with his daughter' and may find it odd he's holding her hand? Will "Alpha" Mr. Hooker be able to give PDA's to his 18 y.o. lover?

What about new employment for the infamous Mr. Hooker? Will he take his 'soulmate' to work functions he may be required to attend?

There are probably loads of weird situations they will find themselves in. Or will they become a pair of social recluses?

Think about it. That dude isn't Alpha he's more of the Little Rascal's Alphalpha. Pathetic nerd.

Frankly the complaints from the feminists and moralists make more sense than this. Not that I agree with them but at least they make sense.

Your criticism boils down to two things:

1. He's not Alpha enough for you.
2. They may be caught in embarrassing social situations.

If these are the only problems their relationship is going to cause, I'd say they are home free.

IMO they are going to have more significant problems than these (including legal problems) but time will tell.

The guy's biggest mistake was allowing himself to be captured by the media. Once the media gets you your life will never be the same, whether you've done right or wrong. "Fame has a halflife of 15 minutes; infamy lasts a little longer." If he'd simply quietly left the wife and taken up with the 18 year old they'd be Ok (after the messy divorce).

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Frankly the complaints from the feminists and moralists make more sense than this. Not that I agree with them but at least they make sense.

Your criticism boils down to two things:

1. He's not Alpha enough for you.
2. They may be caught in embarrassing social situations.

If these are the only problems their relationship is going to cause, I'd say they are home free.

IMO they are going to have more significant problems than these (including legal problems) but time will tell.

The guy's biggest mistake was allowing himself to be captured by the media. Once the media gets you your life will never be the same, whether you've done right or wrong. "Fame has a halflife of 15 minutes; infamy lasts a little longer." If he'd simply quietly left the wife and taken up with the 18 year old they'd be Ok (after the messy divorce).

The dude is a weirdo. Plain and simple.

But let's praise him because loads of 'pua' nut jobs who claim they can get 'any' woman say it's 'alpha'.

How about going full blown 'alpha' and saying screw society and the law and start chasing underage chicks? That would be soooo 'alpha'.

IMO MOST people in PUA and in this 'community' are completely fvcked in the head when it comes to chicks. There's no need to split atoms over everything when you should hopefully be a normal person who is capable of dealing with chicks and life in general.

I could pick my constantly pick my nose while talking out loud to myself in public which is perfectly 'legal'. But don't, because like it or not it means something is wrong with that picture.

 

[runner83]

Haters will always be haters.

The snivelling masses who are jealous of an alpha will try and raise hell to make him feel guilty for the "terrible" thing he has done.

While alphas just continue to life their life on their own terms. Don't get wrong - in another context, he would be a beta, but in this one, he is an alpha, due to context.

And let's put into perspective:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/alpha-male-of-the-month/

An 18 year old woman is more capable of choosing to be the lover of a 41 year old man than an 18 year old man is capable of choosing to go to war.




Thread closed.

 

[zekko]

What does he do? He quits his job, starts working at a fast food joint. Stops caring about what his wife wants, and fantasizes about his daughter friend (assumedly 18).

He starts smoking pot, starts working out, tell his wife to basically fvk off and that he no longer cares what she does.

In short, he starts living life on his terms. He does what HE wants. Fvk your trophy wife, fvk your high paying job, fuk your expectations, this is MY life to live as I want.

THAT is alpha. Not giving two-$hits about what anyone else says. Having the balls to stand up for what YOU want, and not being afraid to go after it, despite the world's judgement.

I don't think it's necessarily alpha, it might just be irresponsible.
I did like the movie though, partly because it's about a guy who goes through a mid-life crisis.

I'm pretty sure Mena Suvari was supposed to be 16 in the movie.
I always thought it was interesting that he smoked pot while he was working out. Seems like inhaling the smoke would be kind of counter-productive while doing sets. I wonder how many people do this?

By the way, if you remember, the reason he was working out was he overheard his daughter's friend talking about him. She said "if he worked out, I would fvck him".

 

[Poonani Maker]

What I don't understand is why any Guy, would want just One woman, for a Lifetime, or even 6 months or a year at most, for me. I mean, look at the Kings throughout history, even in the Holy Bible. They had concubines, a harem. I liken it to that cooky Flash Gordon movie from the 80s, where Ming had his bevy of women who may or may not liked him, but he was king, gave them booze, whatever, diamonds, took care of the sexual variety lot. Don't know about you, but I get tired of the same ole snatch. I don't care Who the woman is.

 

[zekko]

Is it not possible to be alpha AND irresponsible at the same time?

Absolutely.

I mean, look at the Kings throughout history, even in the Holy Bible. They had concubines, a harem

True. Of course, they paid to support all those women, kept them fed, clothed, and sheltered.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I addressed this yesterday:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/the-contextual-alpha/

It’s precisely because of Hooker’s subscription to the soul-mate myth that he reeks of beta. I have no doubt that he fluidly convinced himself of his noble intent narrative, casting himself as the savior for his adoring princess. White Knights are very prone to using their delusions of chivalry to rationalize good intent into the same behaviors they’d condemn in Players, PUAs or typical ‘other guys’ in general. To venture a guess I’d expect that Hooker buys his own bullshît, and because of this he hasn’t given an afterthought to how it will affect his career, his relationship with his family, his kids or any future social circle.

 

[MaddXMan]

I posted this in another thread on this same subject.

Have you ever seen the film "American Beauty"?

Kevin Spacey plays the role of a man who is married to a harpy b1tch of a wife and he hates his job.

What does he do? He quits his job, starts working at a fast food joint. Stops caring about what his wife wants, and fantasizes about his daughter friend (assumedly 18).

He starts smoking pot, starts working out, tell his wife to basically fvk off and that he no longer cares what she does.

In short, he starts living life on his terms. He does what HE wants. Fvk your trophy wife, fvk your high paying job, fuk your expectations, this is MY life to live as I want.

THAT is alpha. Not giving two-$hits about what anyone else says. Having the balls to stand up for what YOU want, and not being afraid to go after it, despite the world's judgement.

You must have missed at the beginning of the movie when he blackmails his company/the HR guy into giving him a year's worth of salary and benefits as severance.

Being a middle aged man smoking weed and working fast food is ok if you have money in the bank. If you're broke as ****, then it's not so cute.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I posted this in another thread on this same subject.

Have you ever seen the film "American Beauty"?

Kevin Spacey plays the role of a man who is married to a harpy b1tch of a wife and he hates his job.

What does he do? He quits his job, starts working at a fast food joint. Stops caring about what his wife wants, and fantasizes about his daughter friend (assumedly 18).

He starts smoking pot, starts working out, tell his wife to basically fvk off and that he no longer cares what she does.

In short, he starts living life on his terms. He does what HE wants. Fvk your trophy wife, fvk your high paying job, fuk your expectations, this is MY life to live as I want.

THAT is alpha. Not giving two-$hits about what anyone else says. Having the balls to stand up for what YOU want, and not being afraid to go after it, despite the world's judgement.

In short Kevin Spacey's character reverted to the mentality of the 18 year old age he was after. A Man-teen "Alpha" indeed.

 

[Jitterbug]

I addressed this yesterday:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/the-contextual-alpha/

Rollo, you can't trust what that man said to the media to make himself look better, while everyone was out to get him with their pitchforks.

My two uncles are natural with women and do this schtick a lot. They'd profess "love", promise marriage and all that, but all they do is love her then leave her. It is the opposite of white knight's "chivalrous" mentality: they do this so that they feel better and get vilified less when they inevitably break the woman's heart and leave her for someone new.

 

[f283000]

IF she does decide to leave Mr. Hooker at some point. How many women if any will want him? Will he continue to have to go after 18 year olds for life?

Mr. Hooker has been on tv and is now famous. He shouldn't worry about getting p_ssy for the rest of his life.

People are making him out to be some kind of creep but trust me there are countless young women now that would love to get a shot at this guy just because of his fame.

All you need in this country for women to make themselves readily available to you are fame or fortune. It doesn't matter what kind of fame as even murderers on death row who have done things a million times more horrible than what Mr. Hooker did have women throwing themselves at them.

You don't even need that much fame. I read cases of guys that got a little bit of local tv exposure and with that little recognition women were just approaching them if they happened to recognize them.

Women will always want what has fame/what is notorious/what has fortune. It doesn't matter how the guy got any of those 3.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Mr. Hooker has been on tv and is now famous. He shouldn't worry about getting p_ssy for the rest of his life.

Infamous. And he can be "Alpha" to whack job chicks. Congratualtions.

People are making him out to be some kind of creep but trust me there are countless young women now that would love to get a shot at this guy just because of his fame.

Has a poll been conducted?

All you need in this country for women to make themselves readily available to you are fame or fortune. It doesn't matter what kind of fame as even murderers on death row who have done things a million times more horrible than what Mr. Hooker did have women throwing themselves at them.

He left his job and due to the attention the story's caused I'm sure it won't help him get a better one. Have you seen the women after dudes in prison? LMAO cuckoo for coco puffs. These same women get off on their man being IN prison as they are 'controlled' by the system. "Alpha" indeed.

You don't even need that much fame. I read cases of guys that got a little bit of local tv exposure and with that little recognition women were just approaching them if they happened to recognize them.

Because someone approaches anyone doesn't mean they are in love with them. People are curious and may be posting about you on Flakebook while laughing with their friends afterwards.

Women will always want what has fame/what is notorious/what has fortune. It doesn't matter how the guy got any of those 3.

Depends on the type of women you or I would actually give a damn about. Personally I don't need someone to 'complete' me so it's whatever. Good luck to them.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Rollo, you can't trust what that man said to the media to make himself look better, while everyone was out to get him with their pitchforks.

I'd agree with you if not for the fact that Hooker was married with children (one of them 17) for years before he 'went rogue' by investing 4 years into creating his perfect soul-mate. Just read his words about his new GF, listen to his mannerism in the interviews, the guy's a self-convinced White Knight. If you do the math, Hooker's oldest kid was born when he was 24, meaning he was probably 22 or 23 when he got married. My guess is he was a self-convinced white knight who "did the right thing" when he first got married. Regardless, he most certainly never had the sexual experience in his 20's and 30's to mature beyond the adolescent social skill set he had when he was first married.

This isn't a Charlie Sheen meltdown where the guy says "ƒuck it, I'm done with playing by society's rules" and bangs pornstars half his age. Hooker genuinely thinks he's going to "settle down" with his virgin soul-mate for the happily ever after.