It depends how you are brought up and what your experience is like. Clay appears to have come from a good home with decent parents and probably lived a sheltered life. Sometimes you are just "good natured". It's not a matter if women themselves are respect-worthy or not, it's how you are wired. If you have to change who you are because someone brings out the worst in you because of how they are behaving then it doesn't show a strong character. Clay appears to be strong at least that way throughout the TV-show.
He got cucked. He's a *****. If she didn't end it, he would be that bloke raising Chad's baby when show hit the wall and got fat.
To Clay, yes she's respectable. To the bad-boy jock, not much so. To most people, probably not. Clay is wired in such a way that he respects, values, loves Hannah. She got damaged and gave him mixed signals.
He's captain beta. What society hopes the between(ERS) in the Pareto distribution, the guys between Chad's and incels, the beta male providers to keep society orderly.
Lets take the argument she enjoys sex and plays the victim. That is not how the TV-show went. If you saw that particular episode then it's a matter of social media shaming. People can do their business but when you start taking secret smartphone photos and sending them to everyone in the same class then it's a type of rape. Hannah never signed up for that. She went to a party that happened to have a rape occur, but she didn't go to the party knowing there was a rapist there who intended to rape someone for her entertainment. That's a big difference. This is a high-stress situation. Just like if you are a by-stander witnessing something. Some people may react and intervene, others may dial 911, still others may just pray, or do nothing about it at all. It doesn't mean they agree with what is going on. If she goes in a hot-tub then obviously she's going to take off some clothes. So, while I may understand what you are saying, I think I can understand why Clay would like her still and, yes, respect her. I would be rooting for her and Clay to be together, at least a short term relationship with lots of nice make-out sessions if she didn't take her life.
You sound like a SJW.
There is no ambiguity. Its either rape or it isn't. Arguing she got slut shamed is rape is retarded.
Allot of times you'd think that Clay should have just aggressively throw caution to the wind and just french kissed her. Sometimes I have that feeling, but like Clay there is a block and you don't end up doing it. You just can't. However that character acted this "Clay" guy really resonated. How many opportunities to just start making out with her.
He can't. He needs confirmation unless alpha.
Captain beta tried and she said no.
An actual rapist did nothing. She got semi nude in his hot tub. Had her pants ripped off. She enjoyed herself.
Yes, the show attempted to show rape. It failed. The broom was rape and the drunk black chick could be argued as rape.
Enjoying sex and regretting after isn't rape.
That's unfortunate since that would mean many girls would also commit suicide. Don't see how a suicide girl who writes letters, makes tapes, or video-blogs blaming other people for her death is a model citizen.
Women attempt suicide more. More men succeed. IMHO, its more of the same attention ***** social media victim hood mentality.
She was a attention *****. Clay is a cuck.
You play to win.
It's because you must have a side or a past where you may have identified with Clay or dealt with women that way. Then you got burned badly once or twice, took up the red-pill, and then don't see how you could have been that way in the first place. You sound rather bitter as well. It's great the red-pill is working for you? For it to work, then obviously you can't respect women. So you think respect is just for blue-pillers?
You sound like a male feminist who cannot compete.
I respect after blowing on her face.
You call her wife.
You mad?
