Has anyone noticed a general change in public opinion about the unvaccinated?

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and then lets hear the New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern is saying now:

and if you do not comply and submit to the covid gods, then this happens (video clips from Australia among others).
Coming soon TM to your neighborhood too! :up:
of course will not, the flu there still new vaccines every year

funny is 2 very know guys here who let they emotions do the talking are now each on they side, one is fearfull of getting something if he do and another is fearfull of getting something he does not, kinda interesting, and again not surprising, like most they ignore info, from both sides, and just goes for they feelings

still only thing I see on the news, is goverments(all of then some more dragonic then others) pushing for the vac passports, but no one seens to tell people to not travel, this end of the year, and take note on all people who works on media, artists, and all the idiots who think they are important, they are the ones having parties, when they tell others to not do so
 

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Well lets hear the leaked out video with Austria's PM Scott Morrison future plans for the people who don't comply to the gods of covid:
Does this sound like a free society that you want to be part of and live in with your loved ones?

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9839677/Coronavirus-Australia-Scott-Morrison-says-vaccinated-Aussies-banned-venues.html
Aussie do not have freedom of speech or expression. A bit different than America. We still have the 1st amendment right now. I am sure, as more States become "woke", that will be challenged too. Again, its the race to the bottom here...
 

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Lets jump a year back ish for "fun" to United Kingdom too and hear what the covid gods where saying about using masks that they now demand as mandatory and they DO WORK!

and as an added bonus lets hear the almighty Dr. Anthony Fauci; the demi god of covid himself on the subject: :up:
 
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Funeral director tells what he's seen in the last 18 months.

 

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Vaccinated vs unvaccinated sick in hospitals. But hey the vaccine works and the unvaccinated is the issue right? :eek::lol::rofl::whistle:
Yep most sick are the vaccinated. Solution take the jab or else!

Source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1037987/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-48.pdf

and on national level in UK;

which means that 64% of all hospitalized in UK are vaccinated... :rolleyes:
Sort of ironic isn't it?
 
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Mainstream news outlets are basically saying only three shots including the booster would give people a chance against omnicron. The two vaccine dose is not enough. Wtf would I get vaccinated now then? They just say it wont work and I am risking side effects. The variant itself is milder and people are not getting as sick from it. This means I am better off not doing anything if this variant overtakes delta and you have a nicer variant that is less likely to suffocate people to death. If I missed the vaccine window then I will take a hit on the mandates (if boosters are now part of full vaccination I would have to wait six months after the first shot to be fully vaccinated). Lets see if the made in Canada Medicago vaccine is the way out of the vaccine information/disinformation nightmare when it comes available next year.

Oh and btw my mom's sister in law claims two of her cousins died after taking the second dose of the pfizer vaccine and they had no prior health conditions.
 

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The two vaccine dose is not enough.
It's a subscription service, it will never stop mate until people start to wake the fvck up.
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Omnicron which funny enough (Well.. I think it is amusing at least :lol::whistle:), if you toss around the letters spells moronic is a mild variant - basically on the level of flu from what i read in international reports. Why would you ever spend anytime get vaccinated against something what won't kill you e.g. isn´t a threat?

Personally I'd think that is indeed a valid question to ask.
 
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Vaccinated vs unvaccinated sick in hospitals. But hey the vaccine works and the unvaccinated is the issue right? :eek::lol::rofl::whistle:
Yep most sick are the vaccinated. Solution take the jab or else!

Source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1037987/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-48.pdf

and on national level in UK;

which means that 64% of all hospitalized in UK are vaccinated... :rolleyes:
Sort of ironic isn't it?
The government are classing anyone who hasn't had 3 doses as "unvaccinated", not people who haven't had any vaccination.
Also you're not considered fully jabbed until 2 weeks after your 3rd jab so that figure is probably even higher compared to completly in jabbed.
My daughter works on a "covid ward". She says that the patients there are actually people who have come in with other conditions and have merely tested positive. The wards are also anything but full by her accounts.
 

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There is nothing surprising in this article. For those not keen on reading academic literature, the study concludes there is an small increase in inflammatory markers in some patients for up to 2.5 months following vaccination. That is a standard immune response. Anyone who’s read their share on atherosclerosis and heart disease knows that the immune system and inflammation directly correlate to the disease progression when taken in aggregate over a lifetime. This study does not even allude to such changes being permanent or long term. Just another misrepresentated data point for the confirmation bias crowd…
Spin it however you want. The fact cardiac issues exist with this vaccine is enough of a deterrent for me to never take it.

The vaccine was also marketed as ensuring our lives would return to normal, yet that hasn't happened yet either. There's still mask mandates, vaccine mandates have been rolled out, and show your document mandates are on the books. People are losing their jobs because they don't want a vaccine. They have to choose between their personal health choices and a paycheck. That's not normal. No matter what your stance on vaccinations is, that is wrong 100%.
 

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Funeral director tells what he's seen in the last 18 months.

This is not surprising. I ride motorcycles and know of people that have died from motorcycles accidents but since they tested positive for Covid-19 at their time of death, they were labeled a covid-19 death. Again, this is first-hand information. Even the nurses and drs know this but are often silenced or threatened.

This, of course, for anyone that can think critically (and is not medically an idiot) is alarming. The numbers and data they use to push for this are simply not true. Not saying people don't die from covid-19 complications but those are heavily immune compromised people that let's face it are not meant to spread their genes and move on, but the actual fatality rate of this virus is extremely low. E.X.T.R.E.M.E.L.Y - L.O.W.

This is quite simple, there is absolutely no real reason for a perfectly healthy human being to get this vaccine at this point in time when there is no proven benefit (for them specifically) and the risks on the contrary are way higher.

One thing is for certain, there will always be that person that will see reality as they see fit and that has been conditioned to do so.

For them I have two approaches:

1 - If they are intelligent and mature enough we will agree to disagree and have an intellectual conversation about it.
2 - If they are too blinded for their own, it is not my place to burst their reality bubble, and I ignore them


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No, they don't even have a formal Bill of Rights incorporated into their constitution.
Oh wow, that is actually scary. But it also explains why the politicians so quick have been able to turn the country to a totalitarian state with no civil liberties. Basically a police state.

Thanks for the clarification mate
 

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It's a subscription service, it will never stop mate until people start to wake the fvck up.
Worlds biggest cash cow ever for the medicare industry with 7 billion subscribers all guaranteed paid for by the governments of the world.

Omnicron which funny enough (Well.. I think it is amusing at least :lol::whistle:), if you toss around the letters spells moronic is a mild variant - basically on the level of flu from what i read in international reports. Why would you ever spend anytime get vaccinated against something what won't kill you e.g. isn´t a threat?

Personally I'd think that is indeed a valid question to ask.
New strains of viruses are typically more infectious but LESS lethal. This is consistent with Darwin's theory of evolution. A more deadly strain would kill its host before it can pass on the virus on another host. A strain that does not kill the host has a much greater chance of reproductive success. The common cold was probably at one time a much more lethal virus than it is today. It eventually evolved to become very mild in terms of symptoms but also highly infectious. It sounds like COVID is heading in the same direction with Omicron.
 

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Oh wow, that is actually scary. But it also explains why the politicians so quick have been able to turn the country to a totalitarian state with no civil liberties. Basically a police state.

Thanks for the clarification mate
The US has a much more robust freedom of expression than most other Western democracies. This is in part because the Supreme Court has held that "hate speech" laws violate the First Amendment. In most other Western countries, governments can pass hate speech laws designating just about anything as "hate speech". For example, the EU is presently in the process of amending the definition of "hate speech" to include "sexism" and "misogyny".
 

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btw ther eis a nice little thing too, since boosters was supose to be taken AFTER some months, that was supose to be science based and shouldn't be changed, but goverments are changing the months need for the booster and actually reducing the time you need to wait. so much for trust the science bro, and like always no one seen to question it
 

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