Has anyone here done everything pertaining to women solo? Just you, no wingmen

[Oatmeal31]

Have any of you done daygame, nightgame, approaching in any kind of venue all by yourself without any wingmen? A period where you went on this journey by yourself alone?

I ask because this does seem much harder to do entirely alone. Relying on yourself for feedback, ironing out mistakes, and not having the cushion of a social circle, etc. So I'd like to see what kind of results some of you have gotten on a similar path, or if your progress got so much better by having a friend that is involved with you and gives feedback, etc.

Ever since I've gotten into this, I've never gotten aid from anybody in person. I've done all approaching solo, whether on the street, store, bar, club, you name it. Doesn't matter if it's one or a group of 2,3,4,5 girls, I've never had a wingman before. The most I've done is look at videos and take advice from others that are more experienced. The rest is trial, error, and dealing with mental hurdles.

I've hung out with buddies before and happened to approach while we're doing something, but they would never assume the wingman role and just take a step back. It felt easier with them just being around though. More of a cushion.

Don't really count but I've probably approached around 150 women by now if not more. Have "pulled," as in had a decent chance of having sex with around 6 girls but never actually got any lays. So just makeouts or grinding.
Furthest I've gotten with this was getting a really good looking French girl back to my hotel room the same day I met her on the street. Was razor close, but I always fumble the bag in some way. Still learning.

Feels like I'm playing on hardcore difficulty doing it this way, but I'm stubborn enough to see it to the end

 

[BPH]

This is what I do.

Do you have a question? Are you trying to learn something?

 

[Oatmeal31]

This is what I do.

Do you have a question? Are you trying to learn something?

Has it always been that way? If so, how difficult has it been? Much harder than having someone that gives feedback from another lens, works with you in an iron sharpens iron way,etc? I'm curious about how someone else progressed this way, how they made it work, and when things finally clicked just relying on yourself

 

[Ricky]

Ive done this everytime ive moved to a new town. It was easy then you tell a woman you just moved to town and ask for her recommendations on things.

 

[BPH]

Has it always been that way? If so, how difficult has it been? Much harder than having someone that gives feedback from another lens, works with you in an iron sharpens iron way,etc? I'm curious about how someone else progressed this way, how they made it work, and when things finally clicked just relying on yourself

I started doing it solo because I didn't have anybody around me with the results I wanted. Most men are bad with women, and it's a case of the blind leading the blind if you're asking them for advice.

I believe in listening to the people who have what you want, rather than settling for the advice of the people willing to give it.

I generally have had a BETTER time approaching solo as opposed to with friends or with a group. It allows you a lot more freedom.

I've had friends get upset when I left with a woman despite that being the reason we had both gone out. I've had "wingmen" ignore all signs and agree with a woman's objections about me rather than talk me up, even when the conversation was going well without them. I've gone up to groups of girls with friends and managed to isolate them from each other, only for my stupid "wingman" to immediately reunite them because they didn't know what to do.

I prefer to go out with friends, but that's because I like having company and people to hang around with when I'm not seeing girls I want to approach. The most a wingman's done for me that I couldn't do for myself was provide a bed to bring the girl at the end of the night.

Unless you know somebody who's slamming a** the way you want to be, both in terms of quality and quantity, then I'd suggest learning by doing. You'll eventually get to a point where you don't fear rejection or have outcome dependence, and that's when it becomes a lot easier, assuming you're decent-looking and not borderline homeless.

 

[The Duke]

I've gotten just as many girls by myself as I have with friends or wingmen hanging out in bars. Its definitely not any harder by myself. In fact, girls are always impressed when they see I am confident enough to go alone.

Its probaly easier to get a girl talking when you are hanging out with female friends, but that doesn't always translate to success.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

90% solo.