CuddleJunkie
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good advice, be careful with this stuff guys...our society is ****ed up and they can fire you for posting on a forum such like this.
Has a woman who has been fat-shamed been "violated" as well?
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This video was interesting. I've been following Roosh for a while. He's far from perfect though he writes moderately well, his ideas make sense but there is something about the way he presents himself that seems a bit awkward.
I'm really not trying to judge him because he is his own man, makes a great living, and has charted his own path. I respect him as a man.
Back to his awkwardness. He pretty much let Dr. Oz cut him off and put words in his mouth and call him "sick". I'm not so sure if I would have sat there and allowed someone to speak to me/about me in such fashion without retaliating. My guess is Roosh didn't do his research on Dr. Oz so he could retaliate effectively. Though the good Dr. has a team of producers at his service Roosh should have had something in his arsenal.
My guess is public speaking does not come naturally to Roosh. This skill I think is still in development. I think he is knowledgeable and his views bring value to me. But his ability to debate effectively leaves a lot to be desired.
It seems Roosh is taking a bit of hit lately too. I still like the guy though he seems more of a regular guy to me after this and I appreciate that.
Also, this shows telivision/studio audience/market would never in a million years be seen agreeing with Roosh's view on this topic. Stay at home Mom's (likely overweight) won't admit he's correct no matter how well he presents his idea. He should have chosen a less liberal show. But then again after years on the internet maybe he's cashing in and I got no problem with that either.
I'm really not trying to judge him because he is his own man, makes a great living, and has charted his own path. I respect him as a man.
Back to his awkwardness. He pretty much let Dr. Oz cut him off and put words in his mouth and call him "sick". I'm not so sure if I would have sat there and allowed someone to speak to me/about me in such fashion without retaliating. My guess is Roosh didn't do his research on Dr. Oz so he could retaliate effectively. Though the good Dr. has a team of producers at his service Roosh should have had something in his arsenal.
My guess is public speaking does not come naturally to Roosh. This skill I think is still in development. I think he is knowledgeable and his views bring value to me. But his ability to debate effectively leaves a lot to be desired.
It seems Roosh is taking a bit of hit lately too. I still like the guy though he seems more of a regular guy to me after this and I appreciate that.
Also, this shows telivision/studio audience/market would never in a million years be seen agreeing with Roosh's view on this topic. Stay at home Mom's (likely overweight) won't admit he's correct no matter how well he presents his idea. He should have chosen a less liberal show. But then again after years on the internet maybe he's cashing in and I got no problem with that either.
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Editing time has passed and the source cannot be edited by me, have reported it to have it removed by mods. This was indeed a pretty bad idea.
"take your photo off asap or someone you know will find you happened to me"
I think somebody firing someone or getting upset over stuff that is said in a forum is absurd. Everyone should have the right to their opinion and their perspectives. I think it would be petty for someone else to take any offense at such. But I guess in the current society we live in people's sensibilities have become too delicate. Almost sickening that there are people who are so weak that just a simple opinion someone has is enough to cause their delicate sensibilities to be harmed.
After hearing this I actually am going to keep my own profile pic as a close up of my mug just to mock anyone that knows me if they end up finding me here.
I think somebody firing someone or getting upset over stuff that is said in a forum is absurd. Everyone should have the right to their opinion and their perspectives. I think it would be petty for someone else to take any offense at such. But I guess in the current society we live in people's sensibilities have become too delicate. Almost sickening that there are people who are so weak that just a simple opinion someone has is enough to cause their delicate sensibilities to be harmed.
After hearing this I actually am going to keep my own profile pic as a close up of my mug just to mock anyone that knows me if they end up finding me here.
LiveFreeX
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They aren't that bad... more like an anal abscess, its a pain to have to do anything when they're around but a real relief when they go away. They make social interactions with the opposite sex quite awkward and they are really only gross when you have to see or touch them.
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I don't get this notion of remaining hidden because "people will find you", so what? What is so wrong with being found as a member of this site? The site is a networking site for men to discuss various things from women, marriage, wealth/success, health/fitness, politics, and other topics.
I've said awhile ago that the tag line of this website needs to change, with the:"Learn the Secrets of Meeting, Dating and Attracting Women!" Also the entire home page needs to change. The change should focus on some sort of promotion of self-improvement for the total man so that he becomes "so suave" or a Don Juan.
This site isn't all about how to get laid (which would make it a pick up site) and it isn't all about being a MGTOW either (which some might label as a woman hating site).
Why you guys are anonymous as hell makes no sense. I would like to see who the hell I'm talking to and getting "advice" from. Plus in relation to "losing employment", most guys here are not working in some high dollar/top level career, so I don't think your Burger King Manager would really care that you post on this website.
I've said awhile ago that the tag line of this website needs to change, with the:"Learn the Secrets of Meeting, Dating and Attracting Women!" Also the entire home page needs to change. The change should focus on some sort of promotion of self-improvement for the total man so that he becomes "so suave" or a Don Juan.
This site isn't all about how to get laid (which would make it a pick up site) and it isn't all about being a MGTOW either (which some might label as a woman hating site).
Why you guys are anonymous as hell makes no sense. I would like to see who the hell I'm talking to and getting "advice" from. Plus in relation to "losing employment", most guys here are not working in some high dollar/top level career, so I don't think your Burger King Manager would really care that you post on this website.
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One thing is to not care about people knowing you are on this site, and another is to not care about the repercussions that it could have over your life. Nietzsche said it best on Beyon Good and Evil, chapter II, 25 it's a long text, but one that I always take care on reminding myself of:
"After such a cheerful commencement, a serious word would fain be heard; it appeals to the most serious minds. Take care, ye philosophers and friends of knowledge, and beware of martyrdom! Of suffering "for the truth's sake"! even in your own defense! It spoils all the innocence and fine neutrality of your conscience; it makes you headstrong against objections and red rags; it stupefies, animalizes, and brutalizes, when in the struggle with danger, slander, suspicion, expulsion, and even worse consequences of enmity, ye have at last to play your last card as protectors of truth upon earth—as though "the Truth" were such an innocent and incompetent creature as to require protectors! and you of all people, ye knights of the sorrowful countenance, Messrs Loafers and Cobweb-spinners of the spirit! Finally, ye know sufficiently well that it cannot be of any consequence if YE just carry your point; ye know that hitherto no philosopher has carried his point, and that there might be a more laudable truthfulness in every little interrogative mark which you place after your special words and favourite doctrines (and occasionally after yourselves) than in all the solemn pantomime and trumping games before accusers and law-courts! Rather go out of the way! Flee into concealment! And have your masks and your ruses, that ye may be mistaken for what you are, or somewhat feared! And pray, don't forget the garden, the garden with golden trellis-work! And have people around you who are as a garden—or as music on the waters at eventide, when already the day becomes a memory. Choose the GOOD solitude, the free, wanton, lightsome solitude, which also gives you the right still to remain good in any sense whatsoever! How poisonous, how crafty, how bad, does every long war make one, which cannot be waged openly by means of force! How PERSONAL does a long fear make one, a long watching of enemies, of possible enemies! These pariahs of society, these long-pursued, badly-persecuted ones—also the compulsory recluses, the Spinozas or Giordano Brunos—always become in the end, even under the most intellectual masquerade, and perhaps without being themselves aware of it, refined vengeance-seekers and poison-Brewers (just lay bare the foundation of Spinoza's ethics and theology!), not to speak of the stupidity of moral indignation, which is the unfailing sign in a philosopher that the sense of philosophical humour has left him. The martyrdom of the philosopher, his "sacrifice for the sake of truth," forces into the light whatever of the agitator and actor lurks in him; and if one has hitherto contemplated him only with artistic curiosity, with regard to many a philosopher it is easy to understand the dangerous desire to see him also in his deterioration (deteriorated into a "martyr," into a stage-and-tribune-bawler). Only, that it is necessary with such a desire to be clear WHAT spectacle one will see in any case—merely a satyric play, merely an epilogue farce, merely the continued proof that the long, real tragedy IS AT AN END, supposing that every philosophy has been a long tragedy in its origin."
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What are the repercussions? Tell me what am I missing here? What in the hell is going to happen to a guy for posting on this site, can YOU or someone tell me?
No repercussions ..there was a pic thread a few years back....you can search it....
Man....**** public dates...went out for some ****tails with this Asian okcupid chick and she pulled the whole wait until second date routine only made out at her car act. WTF....three hours of my time on 30 dollars of drinks for myself...had to drink a lot to stonach the sheer boredom of and mundane nature of bs small talk...when I could have been at a club solo finding dtf women...
Never again..... I will not meet a girl on a public date who i haven't banged yet in a public setting....my real game is in the bedroom... Forget dating.
I'm making a new app. Deliverydate.....would name it something more obvious... But don't want the feminust to push it down before it gets heated up.
No more wasting $5-$30 and any amount of time just to get a makeout session see u again bs.
Man....**** public dates...went out for some ****tails with this Asian okcupid chick and she pulled the whole wait until second date routine only made out at her car act. WTF....three hours of my time on 30 dollars of drinks for myself...had to drink a lot to stonach the sheer boredom of and mundane nature of bs small talk...when I could have been at a club solo finding dtf women...
Never again..... I will not meet a girl on a public date who i haven't banged yet in a public setting....my real game is in the bedroom... Forget dating.
I'm making a new app. Deliverydate.....would name it something more obvious... But don't want the feminust to push it down before it gets heated up.
No more wasting $5-$30 and any amount of time just to get a makeout session see u again bs.
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Beyond Good and Evil?
Well sir, I agree with your choice of reading material.
I figure you have an interest in Philosophy, I immediately identified your profile picture as being Schopenhauer.
Beyond Good and Evil?
Well sir, I agree with your choice of reading material.
I figure you have an interest in Philosophy, I immediately identified your profile picture as being Schopenhauer.
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Well, it is what I studied and continue on doing so. Schopenhauer gives me the frame of work to this world and remind me to not take things too seriously, Nietzsche, who can you can more or less integrate on Schopenhauer's frame, remind me to find joy in making my will. both very good authors to redpill guys.
Well, I don't know the detail as I was not having any time to post on sosuave when it happened, but I think that @logicallefty had problems on his work for sharing his ideas about women or something like that, @LiveFreeX was fired if I remember correctly, @Desdinova was found here too as I've read and had to change his username. I really don't know the details of any of these cases, maybe they can tell us.
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I did. I originally joined in 2001 and ended up abandoning my previous account. I was being stalked online and figured it was the best course of action to simply create a new account and start over. I wrote a "goodbye" post and everything, knowing fully that I would be returning under a new username.
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Some people have prejudice, even people of authority (such as employers). Their judgement isn't always expressed, it may take form in descisions that do not benefit me. That was part of a point I made earlier in this thread. In the case of shaming it's expression of judgement directly, some people do not share their judgements but still make decisions based on them. The point I made earlier was how to deal with less popular personal preferences without creating a lot of drama around it. Instead of pissing off people by shaming what you don't like you instead just choose based on preferences. Like not telling a fat woman how you think they're so fvcked up (shaming), and instead simply not choose a fat woman (freedom of choice). You can't be blamed for anything because nobody truly knows why you chose the way you did. You get what you want by discreetly not choosing what you don't want, you also can't be morally taken down because you did no harm to the fat woman.
An employer or others with leverage (they have something I want) can do the same and easily get away with it. They don't tell me why they rejected me because it's socially unacceptable to shame, but still they have all the freedom to choose giving it to me regardless of reason. I can easily see how this site can have a lot of wrong associations attached to it, things that make people assume things that aren't good. So a potential employer can decide not to hire me based on it, but they will never admit to it or find something more acceptable to pin it on.
Even I use this tactic. As an example I don't like feminists, but I'm not gonna waste my time fighting and spreading hate. They're just going to fight back anyways, so I ignore them. They can't force me to be with them. If they react to me ignoring them I can call it harrassment as I did literally nothing to make them attack me. What I can do then is force them away from me on the basis of abuse. You don't hear of guys having the court force a woman to be with him, but you hear of the opposite, a woman having the court force a guy away from her. This has nothing to do with genders btw, a man can get a restraining order as well.
So I regret putting my picture up, it could have been used against me. It could potentially get me disqualified and I won't even know why. That's the repercussion, it's not an easy one to notice.
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I noticed that the audience was mostly fat pigs. No wonder Dr Oz said he loves them. Haha, they pay his paycheck.
I noticed that the audience was mostly fat pigs. No wonder Dr Oz said he loves them. Haha, they pay his paycheck.
Dr. Oz is smart though. He knows where his money is coming from....fat entitled feminist who only want to hear what fits their delusions and makes them feel good.
Probably snorting coke banging hookers after his daily shows laughing about how dumb the fatties are while rolling around in all of his money.
Probably snorting coke banging hookers after his daily shows laughing about how dumb the fatties are while rolling around in all of his money.
Exactly @zinc4 ... Dr Oz is a medical doctor, so I think that he honestly does not believe that **** like green coffee beans are a miracle weight loss cure. However, by saying that it is he is able to promote and sell things. He also must keep in mind his viewers and keep them reeled in as much as possible. Had he shown any kind of agreement with Roosh then he would have likely lost viewers. It seems most of his viewers are women, and judging by his constant focus on weight loss miracles I can only deduce that his audience has an interest in weight loss (I will leave you to the logical assumption).
Remember, he is laughing his way to the bank with this. Heck, I would do it to if I were paid millions of dollars.
Remember, he is laughing his way to the bank with this. Heck, I would do it to if I were paid millions of dollars.
LiveFreeX
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I had an ex-gf's father send people after me in Mexico when she found out I was writing entire threads about banging her and how to game her. She was a level 5 spoiled princess, they owned a jet and a 5 star resort which she lived on. It was scary as hell, had to ask the site owner to delete all my posts and my entire profile. They tried to kick in my door at night, holy fvk I have never been that scared in my life. That was the night I found out that you have to pay Mexican police to leave. Outside the 1st world you are risking your ass.
Bring a deck of UNO cards ($5.00) and play games all night. I never leave home without em, they make any social interaction with ANYONE super smooth. Everyone loves to play UNO, especially chicks and you can EASILY get a huge group going with completely random people. Once you have more than 3 ppl, others start watching and before you know it, you are the center of attention, the host and the guy who controls the crowd. If you know magic tricks, you can make the whole crowd flip out. Its such a simple fix yet almost no one knows it. My friend and I used to bring UNO cards to expensive night clubs in China and we'd usually draw a large crowd while the music was pounding. Its an awesome networking tool and bridges the gap between awkward and awesome because only a few people have the guts to bring the fun with them. I've played games with CEOs, supper clubs, trades people, poor people, random folks on a train, students, sales guys, exotic dancers, ex-gfs, friends, university kids, ppl on a plane. You don't even need to know the same language, everyone can follow numbers and colors, I've explained the rules without saying anything, people watch, pick it up and get hooked. The easiest way to allow conversation to flow is to do an activity together that you actually enjoy. Competition leaves so many doors open for game too.
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Holy ****, that is scary as hell. Now I know why you are so aggresive with the hold "date foreigners" stuff. Good tip the UNO cards btw, will try it sometime, specially in social circle.
In what way?
Keep in mind about one third of adults in the United States are obese. Not overweight, but obese. For women, that's 32% or more body fat. For guys, 25% or more. Huge, huge quality of life improvements to be made
