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Good analysis Cloony.

Yeah that's the bigger picture:

I know you just want a simple answer to your question but I gave you that. But really, WHY the hell do you feel the need to "go there" with this girl? Really explore it. Figure out exactly why. There are probably at least 2 or 3 seperate issues here that you're lumping into 1.

1) Your marriage is in serious danger. Explore that. Figure out why. Forget the hooker for now and decide if it's something that you want to save or not.

2) Why are you so compelled to this girl? Is it because she gave you attention, something that was lacking before? What do you think she's going to do for you if something *were* to happen.

Answer those first.
 

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Sart, you are f*cking pathetic. Fix your god damned marriage or get a divorce and leave the f*cking hooker alone. :rolleyes:

You are completely AFC. You have oneitis with a 23 year old hor. You are supplicating her no end, have her on a pedastal, and I can very well guess what her intentions are.

They may come in pretty little packages, but they are really wolves in sheeps clothing. You are getting f*cked with a capital F.
 

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ok i met alot of prostitutes on the streets during my criminal career when i was younger.

so let me kick a few hypothetical situations for you :

3 months a prostitute = 90 days

1 customer per day = she f^cked 90 guys

3 customers per day = she f^cked 270 guys

as i have said i have met alot of prostitues

WHAT DRUGS IS/WAS SHE ON ?

i have NEVER seen, heard or met a prostitute that didn't use drugs to cope with her tormented mind from letting guys f^ck her for money.

NEVER !!!!

you say she never used / she tells you she never used drugs

YOU BEEN LIED TO !

ok now you got the truth

1. you divorce your wife. you fall in love with her. marry her. have kids with her. LIVE KNOWING YOUR WIFE USED TO BE A PROSTITUTE.

LIVE WONDERING WHEN YOU SEE SOME GUY TALKING TO HER

is that one of her old customers.....

think about your children.....

it will eventually fu** with your mind.

she has the skills now if she is EVER upset and short of money BAM ! she is back in the game.

2. Sexually Transmitted Diseases. you divorce your wife. you marry her. you have unprotected sex with a chick that has f^cked possibly anywhere up to 270 guys ( if it was only really for 3 months )

now multiply that by the type of guys she f^cked. guys who f^ck other prostitutes. chances of disease. HIGH !!!

how you even gunna have unprotected sex with her if you were to marry her ?

how you ever going to go down on her when you married knowing what may lurk down below ?

THIS WILL ALL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU !

she is a ho.

you say she is so smart THEN WHY IS SHE A HO ?

no matter what $hit you were in or how bad you needed money, could you become a male prostitute ?

HELL NO.... why ? because only a FU**ING IDIOT would do that $hit !

and you would need mad drugs to cope with being a male prostitute

SHE IS PERMANENTLY SCARED MENTALY

she is dangerous, you have no idea what a women who has gone to that level can do.

i have seen them, they are straight up killers. you gotta understand psychology.

she will have splintered her mind to cope ( multiple personality disorder is common from rape , prostitution etc.. )

if you ever pi$$ her off WATCH OUT she has the ability to kill i $hit you not !

i know you care and thats cool but i seen chicks as young as 12 selling themselves, you can't help but wish better for such people but these chicks are DANGEROUS. to survive on the streets THEY HAVE TO BE OR THEY DIE.


i don't know what else to say, she is doing good now ?

KEEP AWAY FROM HER.

i have no idea why your wife hasn't kicked your a$$ by now.

someone needs to :D

hope i helped you alittle




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“ But if a ho wants to just be friends then don't waste your time. And I'm a debase character so your hooking up with her friend in front of her was sweet to my ears. “

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“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “

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“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “
 

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"Its is always a VERY BAD BET to base your long term decisions on a females feelings at any given time. " - this is golden advice! As is said in so many post and the bible- it is your interest level in her that matters most.


I do hear what your saying about being out of the scene for a while and loosing your "skills", but to just take what ever comes along and try to mold it into what you want is the wrong approach. Ask yourself if you are honestly interested in this girl. I mean if you were dating and had other choices (girls without the baggage) would you still choose this girl?

No offence- but I think you need to deal with a larger problem first- YOUR WIFE! Life is far too short to live unhappy. Sure it will cause pain if you decide to leave, or it will be painful to try to work things out- but not nearly as painful as living in the pain of being unhappy day in and day out.
I too stayed in a dead end relationship for far too long and just accepted it as "my fate". Big mistake! It changes who you are and not in a good way. I often think I would like to go back and change this- but I know I am now a stronger person for having gone through it and will not make the same mistake again.

At least you are smart enough to look for a solution (even if its not what you wanted to hear) but I think deep down you already know that she is just a distraction from a bigger problem that needs to be addressed first.

Best of luck...
 
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hahahaha...are you joking? Your asking an ex-pimp for advise on a ho? Dam now this is a funny turn of the table.

1. Your trying to be Captain-Save-A-HO. Your coming off with the father figure. How do you think she got pimped in the first place. Ho's or women who fall prey to guys like me because they need us. They need a daddy to tell them what to do because they cannot run their own lives.

2. Your girl is a classic example. Now she is using you since you stepped in and became her new daddy. Since her last daddy put her on the streets and made her do what her own biological father probably did to her but only for money.

3. You have not had sex in 3 years. WTF is this? And now you've fallen for some 23 year old? Buddy your not the daddy figure your a trick. You let her get under your skin with all that touching and world play that she does. This is what ho's do. They play you...even if this girl does like you...she still is doing what ho's or women in general do. Women know if the say certain things and act jealous and touch up on guys they will get all aroused like chumps...which is why they love pimps like me...it doesn't work and we are more of a challenge. Now your girl has taken her girly thing to the ultimate height by learning how to make men into tricks...what do you think she was doing all that time on the streets or on the track.

4. You get a rise outta this situation because it makes you feel powerful and in control. There must be a reason why your wife and you are not having sex. And I will bet your nuts are all backed up now...and she knows this as per your intimate conversations.

I belong to the pimps network and I do need to post this over there..cause this is some funny **** homie.

Ok now back to this ****:

If you want the bytch take her. Quit farting around and getting yourself all aroused and wacking off thinking about it. Just do it.

It's what she had probably been waiting for. She will get bored with you lack of man hood if you don't quit farting off. Don't tell her how you feel about her or any of that symp ****..cause she will lose respect for you...remember she has been owned by the best players out there..and the level of game she has been exposed to is way beyond anything you will ever achieve.

Ho's do make good wives also. I just pity you fools who think your man enough to create it in ho's. You guys think that because she is a ho that you will get whatever type of sex you want all day long, cause she got paid to do it.

When your at her place grab her hand and pull her towards her bedroom as a man would. As soon as you enter the room jerk her towards you and turn into her...and kiss her. This will create a moment of surprise. She will not be able to respond except to kiss you back if she is truely interested in having you as a man then she will allow this to happen.

good luck fool.
 
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Lost in Translation you said:

"so let me kick a few hypothetical situations for you :

3 months a prostitute = 90 days

1 customer per day = she f^cked 90 guys"

Ohh HELLL NAWWWWW...

If she was one of mine back in my days. She had betta be doing way more fawkin and suckin than that. Daddy's got to get paid got dam so beatch betta get my muth*a fawkin money!!!

**** if she wanted an easy job she shoulda been a got dam secratary. Their ain't no holidays. If the ho is lookin for that get a state job.

each ho betta be brining in a couple of c notes a day. else gotta bust them heads back to the white meat...lol.
 
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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
Sart, you are f*cking pathetic. Fix your god damned marriage or get a divorce and leave the f*cking hooker alone. :rolleyes:

You are completely AFC. You have oneitis with a 23 year old hor. You are supplicating her no end, have her on a pedastal, and I can very well guess what her intentions are.

They may come in pretty little packages, but they are really wolves in sheeps clothing. You are getting f*cked with a capital F.
Amen!
 
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Sart you said:

I am a stable, 37 year old businessman, relatively intelligent,


Stable? uhh no. Your stability has gone out the window here. As I said your playing that father role because it makes you feel in control and powerful. That is how your playing yourself. Your letting your ego control you.

Relatively intelligent? yeah you seem to be a intelligent and cultured gentleman. I've been reading your responses. So I do hope you can see the wisdom in my words.

You are headed into something and I do hope you know where your truely going. Just cause this girl has spoken at parlament doesn't mean she will fix what is wrong inside of YOU.

If you want to keep her on your team then you better learn how to play the game.
 

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Oh My God

Listen to yourself Sart,...I am sorry but you are a sad, pathetic and twisted human being.

You refuse to give us any further information with regards to your family life --> its obviously down the toilet.

Wake up! You are trying to read whether a prostitute likes you or not???

Sart

ex prostitutes I had slept with and never as close as this one.
So you have already slept with her?! :eek:

ADVICE:
Get your life together. Stop "mentoring" this girl, you sound like a sick pedophille. You are cheating on your wife,...and cheating yourself and your conscience.

I pray god will help you and show you the light.
 

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Listen to Player_S.

What I find particularly interesting is the way this guy is analizing the situation.

He just wants to know if she's interested in him - and THEN he will figure out what he's going to do after that.

UH?

What was that?

By that deifinition - he only really wants one answer - and that be THAT SHE IS INTERESTED IN HIM.


That's really all he wants to hear. Then he'll go off thinking of all of the good times he can have with his young little Ho.

I don't news for you buddy - she touches you, hits you, teases you because:

THAT'S WHAT HO's DO.


She's paying you for the time and effort that you've put in with her.

She knows your situation - and she's paying you back.

This Ho knows what she's doing - knows how to string you along.

And you know what - you ARE the definition of an AFC.

You'd better listen to the guys who are giving you advice - and stop with you twisted BS logic - of "I just want a starting point".

Sorry - they are not going to tell you what you want to hear - they are telling you HOW IT IS.


Also....

Even if you get with this Ho sh#t is not going to change.

I know your thinking that your going to bang this Ho - and have regular poon if you get with her....

WRONG.

Wanna know why?

For the same fvcking reason your not banging your wife.

Because your an AFC.

You'll make the same mistakes and be the same pvssy guy you are today.

It'll end up that this new Ho will have as little respect for you as your wife does.

You'd better change yourself before you get another b#tch.

You'd better clean your house up.

Tell your wife that if she doesn't put out, you'll put her a## out.

Time to grow some balls.

Before you even think you can deal wife a professional Ho, you'd better learn how to control your wife.
 

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"Wanna know why?

For the same fvcking reason your not banging your wife.

Because your an AFC.

You'll make the same mistakes and be the same pvssy guy you are today.

It'll end up that this new Ho will have as little respect for you as your wife does.

You'd better change yourself before you get another b#tch.

You'd better clean your house up.

Tell your wife that if she doesn't put out, you'll put her a## out.

Time to grow some balls.

Before you even think you can deal with a professional Ho, you'd better learn how to control your wife."


You need to read this, read it again and again and reread it until it sinks in. Go as far as to print it out and refere back to it everytime you have moments of weakness.
The day that you can stop reading this to yourself is the day that you fix things with your wife or the day that you get a GF (after you have left your wife!)
 
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I have an aluminum bat in my hand and I am waiting for SART to stick his head into the forum so that I can bash his head in and knock some sense into it!!!!!

You were given good advice by everyone!!! I can write a book analyzing your 'Ho scenario' but you are missing the entire point and are not in focus on what really matters - YOU!!!

The question is not whether this Hor (yes, she is a hor!!) likes you – hors like everyone!! The question to you is “Do you like yourself?”

I take it you are a miserable person who is living a miserable existence regarding ‘love’ matters and by your disastrous relationship you call marriage this is quite evident! At this point, we shouldn’t even validate your invalid questions about this girl with worthy responses.

It is you who should be the topic of analysis and why you would want a loving relationship with a prostitute who doesn’t know how to love or knows what love is because she has been damaged mentally and emotionally or should I say she damaged herself!!! You are seeking love in the wrong place and with the wrong person!

Since you don’t love your wife and are not loved by your wife, you want to love somebody and you desire for someone to love you - so you go to the easiest and the most vulnerable target to satisfy your loneliness – a young unloved prostitute!

You just want to love someone who will reciprocate love in kind, and behold you now found that one person who is seeking love as desperately, if not more desperately, than you. And two tormented souls meet!!

She knows that you are married so she knows that she can never have you to herself totally in your current condition so why would/should she express an interest in you more than what she has already? If she left prostitution it was because she wanted a relationship with one man (not married) who would take care of her and love her.

To answer your question…f she gives herself to you as she has done to no other man, she knows that this would leave her more vulnerable emotionally because you will eventually return to your wife as many men have done to her before! She doesn’t want to leave herself open to this pain, thus she playfully indicates her interest in you but not wholeheartedly embraces you as a mate because she knows it would only end in her misery and abandonment once again!!

Oh yeah I almost forgot, “Say ‘No’ to hos!!!!
 
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thanks

Hi,

I dont know what an AFC is, could someone elaborate?

Okay, my wife has MS and tthat is why I have stayed around despite not having sex with her.

Also, in Australia prostitution is legal, we don't have pimps, she didn't have a pimp she was called a sole trader. When I met her she was actively trying to get out of the industry.

I guess I do look pathetic but I can take criticism, but does any of the above make a difference?
 
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I was going to ask you if she had an ilness, since 3 years is a long time to not have sex and still be married. And yes, it does make a difference for us to know everything in your situation and it helps us understand why you are doing what you are doing. Her intentionally withholding sex from you is dramatically different thinking than having a disease which keeps her from having sex (if this is the case).!

I take it you want a new lease on life but by staying married and chasing a prostitute behind her back you are doing a disservice to your wife. And yes, your marriage is still a disaster, as I referenced above, since you are chasing the love of a prostitute or ex-prostitute whatever.

AFC = Another Frustrated Chump - a man who tries too hard to please a woman at the expense of his manhood! A supplicating Fool!!
 
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I thought one of you had AIDs. Sorry about your wife. But your everything I said still applies about you and your friend.

Of all the women to fall for you chose this one. Ask yourself why?

Are you holding some kind of honor thing with the wife. You won't go out and cheat on her with a normal girl. Instead you pick someone from that level of society. Ask yourself why?
 

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Re: thanks

Originally posted by Sart
When I met her she was actively trying to get out of the industry.

EVERY H0, EVERY STRIPPER will say this!

Learn from what's said above - they are imparting valuable experiences and info that you have obviously not been privy to in your life.
 

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Thumbs down at,,

1.Paying for it.
2.Catching feelings for a hooker.
 

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I am sorry to hear about your wife.

I know God is with her.

Re : your situation....

You can not control who you fall in love with.......

BUT

You can control wether you pursue it or NOT
 

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Player Supreme, PR_L

Thanks for coming to the rescue, but I doubt he will listen.

Some of us must learn from bitter experience

Dietzcoi
 
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