Happy LTR anyone?

LuksSkywalker

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Since most of discussions here are about spinning plates and break ups, I'm interested how happy LTR's look like. I'm sure some of you are in LTR, so I suppose you are happy. If not, do you know some people who are happy?
How do you keep the Machine working?
If you could be specific and give some examples, that would be appreciated.
 

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You keep the machine working in a LTR by doing the same things as you do to attract multiple women and have multiple options to begin with:

1.) Willingness to walk away if she is disrespectful and not submissive

2.) Maintaining a strong frame

3.) Making decision that benefit you first and foremost

Problem with this is that most men cave over time and their frame gets weaker and weaker as the LTR goes on. Woman wants man to put his foot down, he doesnt because he wants to make her "Happy". She loses respect for him by being allowed to have her way, his other "options" are long gone and the relationship diminishes to nothing. She leaves him for a better option, because women are always window shopping, and he then wonders why all of a sudden she lost sexual attraction to him. Meanwhile he lost his frame little by little along the way.

How do you make women happy? By being a man, a leader and having a strong frame.

Wonder why almost every (straight) woman likes being choked in bed? Loves having her hair pulled and her ass smacked? Wonder why they like being dominated in the sack?

Because they want to be led and they want the man to be in control. Saying "no" and doing what is best for you financially, socially, etc keeps her and her emotional ideas at bay. She will pout but she will respect.

Comprehende?

Happy Hunting
 

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You keep the machine working in a LTR by doing the same things as you do to attract multiple women and have multiple options to begin with:

1.) Willingness to walk away if she is disrespectful and not submissive

2.) Maintaining a strong frame

3.) Making decision that benefit you first and foremost

Problem with this is that most men cave over time and their frame gets weaker and weaker as the LTR goes on. Woman wants man to put his foot down, he doesnt because he wants to make her "Happy". She loses respect for him by being allowed to have her way, his other "options" are long gone and the relationship diminishes to nothing. She leaves him for a better option, because women are always window shopping, and he then wonders why all of a sudden she lost sexual attraction to him. Meanwhile he lost his frame little by little along the way.

How do you make women happy? By being a man, a leader and having a strong frame.

Wonder why almost every (straight) woman likes being choked in bed? Loves having her hair pulled and her ass smacked? Wonder why they like being dominated in the sack?

Because they want to be led and they want the man to be in control. Saying "no" and doing what is best for you financially, socially, etc keeps her and her emotional ideas at bay. She will pout but she will respect.

Comprehende?

Happy Hunting
Only thing id add to make sure guys get it, is keep on keeping yourself in good physical shape. Gym, low body fat, grooming. Good god, i saw two pictures yesterday and you wouldnt have thought its the same guy unless you knew it was.
 

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Agree. However I m an old dog had a lot of LTRs including one marriage. About six years is my record so far so we ll see. 4 years + with current gf and she basically moved in with shelter in place and has treated me so well that I haven't kicked her back out yet. I d add a bit of pampering, a bit of social and shock horror even a tiny bit of romance when she least expects it. But yes still work out and still treat her like a wh0re in the bedroom. Those 2 habits alone fix a lot of things. Never complain or be down. She LL say it's great but it dries the pvssy.

If you run plates as your selection system screen hard and pick a quiet girl you should do fine. Have some stuff u do together (badminton chess learning French share trading for us) my stuff (tennis, martial arts, study for work, building up retirement dream) and her stuff (yoga, study for work, cooking and cooking shows).
 

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Domination and being aggressive is the best way so far i find to turn a women on. Just need to be careful to not over do it and push the pace too fast.
I wish i knew that when i was younger.
With sexuality I have never been told that she wanted me to be more kind, sapiosexual, considerate, respectful or whatever other attribute women say and maybe even think that they want. Whenever women have expressed disappointment over my sexual escalation, they have only ever said I wasn't enough of what feminists say is toxic (domination, aggression) and women say they hate (c0ckiness). Maybe the girl who sometimes wanted me to penetrate her slowly at first counts for something in the direction of wanting gentleness? but she also wanted me to get on top of her and mouthfvck her while saying she wanted me to give her an angry/dominant gaze.

Ime you also have to make sure your dirty talk isn't too "sapiosexual" or she will be turned off, you need to keep it "primitive".
 
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With sexuality I have never been told that she wanted me to be more kind, sapiosexual, considerate, respectful or whatever other attribute women say and maybe even think that they want. Whenever women have expressed disappointment over my sexual escalation, they have only said I wasn't enough of what feminists say is toxic (domination, aggression) and women say they hate (c0ckiness).
Yep its completely the opposite of what we were raise to believe. Very good example of women dont know what they want.
 

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Had a columbian women i was seeing a half a dozen years ago wanted me to whip her with a belt before penetrating her. True story
How bad of a whipping?

Some of them do need their strength bullied out of them before they can submit, and they like it.
 

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Yep its completely the opposite of what we were raise to believe. Very good example of women dont know what they want.
Ime women do know what they want when it comes down to it. They know they want aggression, dominance, c0ckiness, charisma. "Choke me", "get on top of me and mouthfvck me, and look like you are angry", "you weren't as c0cky as you seemed...", "wtf are you saying bro? (my dirty talk was too sapiosexual) LOL come on tell me how hard you'll fvck me, omg", "say I'm a worthless wh0re only good for being used", "you won't just take me! sigh...", "you don't get it, I'm infatuated with you (meaning she was desperate for me to make a move, this particular quote was a citation under a picture) but you just don't get it", "I like how rough you are", "I love when you fvck me with your big c0ck", and so on - all stuff I remember women telling me off the top of my head.

Just based on my experience I'm actually not sure why there is so much blue pill disinformation on womens' dating profiles and in dating "advice", because in real life they've been almost consistently red & black pilled with me from a young age (probably why I was never really "blue pilled" as such, only too inhibited to act effectively).
 
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Ime women do know what they want when it comes down to it. They know they want aggression, dominance, c0ckiness, charisma. "Choke me", "get on top of me and mouthfvck me, and look like you are angry", "you weren't as c0cky as you seemed...", "wtf are you saying bro? (my dirty talk was too sapiosexual) LOL come on tell me how hard you'll fvck me, omg", "say I'm a worthless wh0re only good for being used", "you won't just take me! sigh...", "you don't get it, I'm infatuated with you (meaning she was desperate for me to make a move, this particular quote was a citation under a picture) but you just don't get it", "I like how rough you are", "I love when you fvck me with your big c0ck", and so on - all stuff I remember women telling me off the top of my head.

It's kind of strange actually, because no "real woman" has ever told me she wanted the things that blue pillers and feminists will peddle as dating "advice" on the internet or what women write on their dating profiles. The closest I can think of from actual real life is when a plate's friend told me I should buy my plate flowers, and I literally laughed in her face as my response to the suggestion lol.
You might be right but i think they might not be at ease expressing it or admitting it in a overt way, because it might make them look like sluts
 

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You might be right but i think they might not be at ease expressing it or admitting it in a overt way, because it might make them look like sluts
Yeah absolutely, the more discrete the setting is the more comfortable they are with admitting it while the more public and "proper" the setting is the more disingenuous they - and dating "advice" with them - become. Maybe it's that they don't want to look or feel like a slut, maybe they perceive it as opening themselves up and they aren't comfortable with the vulnerability, maybe they are just shy in general.... who knows, but it's a fact for sure.
 
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I don't know of aanyone in a good LTR that is not being stepped on. If both of them are happy theirs usually some angle to it. Either someones butt ugly, cheating, fat, abusive, or a slut, or some mental issue or someone has money while the others broke... always some angle. I do not know a couple where both are attractive, healthy, able to support themselves individually and theirs not something screwed up going on. Maybe in really young couples things can be all good but over 30 it's always some disparity in the relationship.
 
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Yep its completely the opposite of what we were raise to believe. Very good example of women dont know what they want.
Many were raised to believe:

1.) Treat a woman like a princess
2.) Rule #1 is to make her happy
3.) Be selfless
4.) Be gentle in the love making
5.) Be humble
6.) Give them a second chance if they cheat or are majorly disrespectful

All false.

Do not construe this as a reason to beat on a woman. I have never laid hands on a woman and never will. I choose to eliminate a woman from life and move on vs ever putting myself in that position.

What needs to be done to attract and KEEP them around in relation to the 6 things I listed above (and they work like clockwork for me):

1.) Treat women who are taking care of your needs need to be treated respectfully but also treat them like a dirty slvt in bed
2.) Rule #1 is to make YOU happy
3.) Rule #1 is to make YOU happy
4.) Be dominant and pound her. Treat her like a submissive woman wants to be treated.
5.) Be confident but do not be a conceited a$$hole. To me chivalry isnt dead unless the woman doesnt deserve it....then she is kicked to the curb. I dont change my behaviors based on the women I spin. I simply change women if my behaviors, beliefs, etc do not match up with how she wants to be treated. Your image doesnt take a hit to treat people with respect, but also have little or no room for people in your life who disrespect you and you should be standing up for yourself when the situation permits.
6.) Cheating, lying, deceitfulness is INSTANT dismissal. No questions asked, no explanations needed.

Happy Hunting.
 

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I dont change my behaviors based on the women I spin. I simply change women if my behaviors, beliefs, etc do not match up with how she wants to be treated. Your image doesnt take a hit to treat people with respect, but also have little or no room for people in your life who disrespect you and you should be standing up for yourself when the situation permits.
Word!:cool:
 

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Problem with this is that most men cave over time and their frame gets weaker and weaker as the LTR goes on.
Great all-around post with an emphasis on the above sentence. We've ALL made the mistake of getting too comfortable in a LTR or marriage and then things start to turn south.

It's also a documented scientific fact that men who are in marriages and LTRs have lower testosterone levels than those who are not. So don't let your game slip. The same masculine principles you used to "get her" apply to "keeping her" especially if she's a hot, quality woman.
 

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There was some epic post many years ago that stated:
If you want a great relationship, start reading parenting psychology books (not the new age feminist ones) and dog training books.

This might sound abit harsh but there's alot of truth to this.

You want to adopt the mindset of a father figure giving validation, creating boundaries and being clearly in control.
You will not take her too serious, pass all her silly "tests" and give her everything she needs (note needs, not wants) out of a happy relationship if you establish this dynamic. All women crave a man that's genuinly in control and has his sh1t together while doing his thing.
 

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Many were raised to believe:

1.) Treat a woman like a princess
2.) Rule #1 is to make her happy
3.) Be selfless
4.) Be gentle in the love making
5.) Be humble
6.) Give them a second chance if they cheat or are majorly disrespectful

All false.

Do not construe this as a reason to beat on a woman. I have never laid hands on a woman and never will. I choose to eliminate a woman from life and move on vs ever putting myself in that position.

What needs to be done to attract and KEEP them around in relation to the 6 things I listed above (and they work like clockwork for me):

1.) Treat women who are taking care of your needs need to be treated respectfully but also treat them like a dirty slvt in bed
2.) Rule #1 is to make YOU happy
3.) Rule #1 is to make YOU happy
4.) Be dominant and pound her. Treat her like a submissive woman wants to be treated.
5.) Be confident but do not be a conceited a$$hole. To me chivalry isnt dead unless the woman doesnt deserve it....then she is kicked to the curb. I dont change my behaviors based on the women I spin. I simply change women if my behaviors, beliefs, etc do not match up with how she wants to be treated. Your image doesnt take a hit to treat people with respect, but also have little or no room for people in your life who disrespect you and you should be standing up for yourself when the situation permits.
6.) Cheating, lying, deceitfulness is INSTANT dismissal. No questions asked, no explanations needed.

Happy Hunting.
I agree completely, also when i say being agressive it does not mean violent or abusive. It need to be done in a controled kind of playful way.

Also not being an ******* can be tricky for some, a women standard for ******* is the not the same as a man.
You need to follow your own fair set of rules on that( your frame)
 

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Can somone elaborate please?
I.e when I was in a LTR my girlfriend would do or say something i didnt like. I will say something in the heat of the moment. Later on reflection I knew I could of handled it better.
It's similar to shouting abuse at someone in an argument in the heat of the moment.
 
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