Hanging out in Armenia with an Armenian chick

[Pandora]

Guys get the heck out of the USA. After my engagement I decided to visit Armenia. I have a friend there that I never met. Totally plutonic and we are just friends. She is an average looking girl for the country but would be above average in the USA. She is feminine, fit and friendly. Very meek. She also tells me that for Armenia she is looked at as basically undatable. In the USA she would get scooped up so quick. I told her to go to the USA and find her a man.

You hardly see any fat chicks. Most of the women dress up to go out. They wear makeup and nice attire etc. Once you go over seas you realize that America lied to men. America made men think that there is a shortage of women. NOPE. If you are a decent catch then the world is your oyster. There are a surplus of lean decent looking girls. Men are actually the prize. It's insane. My buddy in Columbia says the same thing.

She told me that her body count was under 10 yet for Armenian standards thats a hoe! I almost died laughing. Get out of the USA!

 

[Slowhandluke]

Its strange that women in other cultures understand that youth and beauty has an expiration date. I'm not sure if sex (or the abundance of sex; i.e., prostitution) in those cultures really hit home for these women. The more prostitution is allowed or permitted (even if it is unsaid and not "shown in public"; police turn a blind eye), the more women really "act normal"; they don't expect men to be chads.

Its just a working theory. For example Armenia, while technically illegal, police turns a blind eye. Also, it doesn't have the negative connotation that it has in the USA. People do it because "it's a basic animal instinct", but they don't flaunt it. They keep their traditional values which by the way always included prostitution in the background.

 

[Pandora]

Its strange that women in other cultures understand that youth and beauty has an expiration date. I'm not sure if sex (or the abundance of sex; i.e., prostitution) in those cultures really hit home for these women. The more prostitution is allowed or permitted (even if it is unsaid and not "shown in public"; police turn a blind eye), the more women really "act normal"; they don't expect men to be chads.

Its just a working theory. For example Armenia, while technically illegal, police turns a blind eye. Also, it doesn't have the negative connotation that it has in the USA. People do it because "it's a basic animal instinct", but they don't flaunt it. They keep their traditional values which by the way always included prostitution in the background.

Exactly. I agree. Prostitution acts as a balancing act on female hypergamy. The main balance is the abundance of thin women. In these nations most women are moderately attractive because they are atleast thin. This keeps female delusion in check because they can very easily be replaced by another female. Competition for men is high because most girls are at least cute.

In America a skinny chick is a rare commodity. She is elevated to Goddess status. An American 7/10 is a 5/10 virtually everywhere else.

 

[Pandora]

Its just mind blowing how much of parallel universe the USA is. America really gives men a low self esteem. We do it to ourselves. We can easily just leave. This is learned helplessness. Stockholm syndrome.

This is not the natural order of male/ female dynamics. Chicks should be chasing YOU! When you travel you see that this is the only way. American women have become drunk off power. I cant blame them. I would do the same thing.

They call us losers, thirsty, creepy, dusty etc. Meanwhile a 8/10 girl in Slavonia is just wishing for a decent in shape man to marry her.

Most guys who live overseas for a while cant really come back to the USA and seriously date. It is too strange a dynamic.

 

[Slowhandluke]

In America a skinny chick is a rare commodity. She is elevated to Goddess status. An American 7/10 is a 5/10 virtually everywhere else.

I think a 3/10 virtually everywhere else. Oh well, these American women will not reproduce. Its self regulating.. First it was, why aren't men approaching.. then it was why aren't men dating... Studies are predicting that in a few more years, there will be more single unmarried 40 year old women in the history of the USA. These women will be pump and dump material for the average guy... because the chads will not want the older ladies... or perhaps these older average women will have learned to try and find a "good man"... Whatever the case, most of these women will not be married.

I think these older women will expand their standards -- they will be forced to by nature. Most of these older women will look and pursue older "average good" men. These older average men will not marry them because they know how bad a divorce can be. Which, I've notice is happening a lot. There are a lot of middle age people who are not married but only have boyfriends and girlfriends. It's harder to fool a older man into marriage when a woman isn't as attractive as she use to be in her 20's. Not to mention the lower sex drive. SooooOO older women will be forced to "act straight"; be nice; cook the food; suck the D on command, etc..... and the younger generation of women will hopefully notice this. I think the younger generation of women will be less narcissistic. It's hard to take the preaching of an older, single unhappy feminist extolling the virtues of feminism when you are a younger girl. Or for a younger girl to see the desperation of an older woman trying to make sure her man wouldn't leave her.

Now to think of it some more, I see a lot of older couples where they are not married where the woman worships the guy and is afraid he will leave the "relationship"... and they are not even married. Strange dyanmics...

 

[The Duke]

I've got a good Armenian friend who divorced his Armenian wife years ago. She was a solid HB8. He always told me she was all about money and nice things. Like a Kardashian. Can't stand them. A lot like the Russian girls.

His views, not mine. I know nothing about Armenians.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I've got a good Armenian friend who divorced his Armenian wife years ago. She was a solid HB8. He always told me she was all about money and nice things. Like a Kardashian. Can't stand them. A lot like the Russian girls.

His views, not mine. I know nothing about Armenians.

People who grow up in poor countries and then move to rich countries are almost always materialistic. Both men and women. Why? Because they're trying to make up for the things they didn't have growing up.

The dumbest thing you can do as a man is to go wife shopping to a poor country and then ring her back to America or Europe with you. If you want to marry a foreign woman, you'll have to move to where she is (and live in some sh!thole country like Armenia). Women in those places are humble and docile because of their environment, not because of their superior moral values. Change the environment and the woman will change too.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Pandora,
Heard on the grapevine you're dating Borats Mum.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Hi Pandora,
Heard on the grapevine you're dating Borats Mum.

Don't anger her male relatives Pandora. You will be trampled by a thousand salvage-title BMW's. The rims may be shiny, but watch for the blood stains.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I think a 3/10 virtually everywhere else. Oh well, these American women will not reproduce. Its self regulating.. First it was, why aren't men approaching.. then it was why aren't men dating... Studies are predicting that in a few more years, there will be more single unmarried 40 year old women in the history of the USA. These women will be pump and dump material for the average guy... because the chads will not want the older ladies... or perhaps these older average women will have learned to try and find a "good man"... Whatever the case, most of these women will not be married.

I think these older women will expand their standards -- they will be forced to by nature. Most of these older women will look and pursue older "average good" men. These older average men will not marry them because they know how bad a divorce can be. Which, I've notice is happening a lot. There are a lot of middle age people who are not married but only have boyfriends and girlfriends. It's harder to fool a older man into marriage when a woman isn't as attractive as she use to be in her 20's. Not to mention the lower sex drive. SooooOO older women will be forced to "act straight"; be nice; cook the food; suck the D on command, etc..... and the younger generation of women will hopefully notice this. I think the younger generation of women will be less narcissistic. It's hard to take the preaching of an older, single unhappy feminist extolling the virtues of feminism when you are a younger girl. Or for a younger girl to see the desperation of an older woman trying to make sure her man wouldn't leave her.

Now to think of it some more, I see a lot of older couples where they are not married where the woman worships the guy and is afraid he will leave the "relationship"... and they are not even married. Strange dyanmics...

This will only happen after a couple of decades of younger women watching the older harpies dying alone.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hey Billie,
At least he's not leaning on his little Brother!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Its just mind blowing how much of parallel universe the USA is. America really gives men a low self esteem. We do it to ourselves. We can easily just leave. This is learned helplessness. Stockholm syndrome.

This is not the natural order of male/ female dynamics. Chicks should be chasing YOU! When you travel you see that this is the only way. American women have become drunk off power. I cant blame them. I would do the same thing.

They call us losers, thirsty, creepy, dusty etc. Meanwhile a 8/10 girl in Slavonia is just wishing for a decent in shape man to marry her.

Most guys who live overseas for a while cant really come back to the USA and seriously date. It is too strange a dynamic.

Now one can "give you" low self esteem. By definition it's how you view yourself. You do that all on your own through being mentally weak and needing others approval.

 

[Pandora]

Don't anger her male relatives Pandora. You will be trampled by a thousand salvage-title BMW's. The rims may be shiny, but watch for the blood stains.

They will all be wearing Armani exchange shirts too. Yeh the stereotypes are true. There were a lot of Range Rovers and white BMWs. Yerevan is beautiful and tiny and expensive.

The chicks were not that hot though. I was dissapointed. They were hotter than American girls but Turkish girls were much hotter.

 

[Pandora]

Hi Pandora,
Heard on the grapevine you're dating Borats Mum.

Pretty much lol...atleast shes traditional and cooks a mean goat.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Pandora,
"Turkish girls were much hotter." I have had four breaks in Turkey,a great Holiday destination,each break more than a month and I would love to comment on that,but I can't,because in all that time I rarely saw a Young Turkish woman who wasn't dressed head to toe in a Creamy coloured Gaberdine Raincoat,if the hood was down they wore a head scarf...The Tea shops are all Men,maybe a few older Women in Resteurants and Shops....I went Dancing Several Times in Istanbul and Fethiye but saw no Turkish Women all expats.

 

[AttackFormation]

Guys get the heck out of the USA. After my engagement I decided to visit Armenia. I have a friend there that I never met. Totally plutonic and we are just friends. She is an average looking girl for the country but would be above average in the USA. She is feminine, fit and friendly. Very meek. She also tells me that for Armenia she is looked at as basically undatable. In the USA she would get scooped up so quick. I told her to go to the USA and find her a man.

You hardly see any fat chicks. Most of the women dress up to go out. They wear makeup and nice attire etc. Once you go over seas you realize that America lied to men. America made men think that there is a shortage of women. NOPE. If you are a decent catch then the world is your oyster. There are a surplus of lean decent looking girls. Men are actually the prize. It's insane. My buddy in Columbia says the same thing.

She told me that her body count was under 10 yet for Armenian standards thats a hoe! I almost died laughing. Get out of the USA!

How long have you talked to these women abroad before you meet them?

 

[CjXo]

When I went back home all the young single women were feminine, fit and friendly. For some reason I don’t remember them being that nice before I moved to the states just 4 years ago. Outside culture(includes religion) differences, Women are women everywhere dude. However, in a true patriarchal society, women have to the run the FFF game for survival purposes. Even if she makes her own money, bringing shame to the family is a big no no. So watch out and don’t bring them back.

 

[Pandora]

How long have you talked to these women abroad before you meet them?

About 1yr for the first one. About 8 months for the Armenian. The only thing stopping from meeting sooner is money and job.

 

[Pandora]

When I went back home all the young single women were feminine, fit and friendly. For some reason I don’t remember them being that nice before I moved to the states just 4 years ago. Outside culture(includes religion) differences, Women are women everywhere dude. However, in a true patriarchal society, women have to the run the FFF game for survival purposes. Even if she makes her own money, bringing shame to the family is a big no no. So watch out and don’t bring them back.

Exactly. I agree.

 

[AttackFormation]

About 1yr for the first one. About 8 months for the Armenian. The only thing stopping from meeting sooner is money and job.

What do you like to talk about and how do you talk to them in the conversations, before youve met? Im not totally clueless but ive forgotten what it's like to talk to a woman consistently, especially without meeting in the near future. Do you select particular girls who are already enthusiastic from the start? Or do you rub your magic flint stone to create the spark?