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The Duke

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I've been the guy that got approached doing nothing, and I've been the guy that goes after them. It all works at different times. There are a hundred different things that attract women. All depends on the woman and at what point in time.

Some of you haven't spent much time in bars and it shows. Lots of keyboard jockeying.
 

Manure Spherian

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Meh I feel like IOIs are just an excuse not to approach.
When I was very young I hit on a girl with no IOI in a park. About a half hour later I was in another area of the park and her boyfriend confronted me, had some words with me, and told me “**** off”. I said, “OK, no problem”. And yes, he was ready to throw down.

Approaching women with no IOI, screwing married women and other men’s girlfriends, all come with risk.

PS: I’m all for taking other men’s girlfriends as in many cases there is no recourse considering damn near every women has a “bf”. Wives, no.
 

BaronOfHair

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We had a little college reunion trip and hit up a bar. My buddy is posted at the far end of the table just quietly texting his GF and browsing Reddit not even trying to engage. Meanwhile my other friend, 6 foot 4 jacked and an aggressive cold approacher PUA guru, spots two girls and goes over to work his game.

While he is in the middle of seducing one of them the other girl notices my quiet friend in the corner. Out of nowhere they both just stop talking to my PUA friend and go straight to him instead. By the end of the night, he somehow ends up having a threesome by doing absolutely fvcking nothing. Dude has that awkward nerdy introverted gamer vibe, no game, does not work out, works a minimalist job, buttttt he looks like Ryan Gosling in the face. And to top it off he has never dealt with toxic women always ends his relationships on his terms doesn’t know a single thing about game and still gets max investment from women without even trying.

Meanwhile, you guys are over here putting in all this work and effort to only receive emotional abuse & bu ll from women. BTW, these women had a lot of guys blowing up their phones too. Furthermore, my cold approacher friend has one of the highest lay counts I know, so he is not a novice or anything. This is why you shouldn't be sweating over women because they do not give a flying fvck about the average man and will drop everything for facial genetics.

Last, I learned that you can pay to have women around you at a club lol.
One can find examples 21 year olds who became multi-millionaires without having to exert much effort also. These are less than 1% of all instances though
 

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All my incel friends have the bad mindset in common.
It's a big cycle of negativity.

Initially, men are a blank slate in the mating environment. Many men get bad feedback from the market, including incels. The difference between incels and non-incels is that the non-incels improve their mindset enough to get laid on some level.

It can be a challenge to self-improve when getting bad feedback from the market in high school or even college (for those that attend).
 

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Women respond in kind. Meaning the more effort you put in, the more desperate you look. Your alpha male friend is making up for insecurities because he’s trying to elevate his lay count to compensate for some insecurity. Your quiet friend looks like he has an abundance mindset.
 

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We had a little college reunion trip and hit up a bar. My buddy is posted at the far end of the table just quietly texting his GF and browsing Reddit not even trying to engage. Meanwhile my other friend, 6 foot 4 jacked and an aggressive cold approacher PUA guru, spots two girls and goes over to work his game.

While he is in the middle of seducing one of them the other girl notices my quiet friend in the corner. Out of nowhere they both just stop talking to my PUA friend and go straight to him instead. By the end of the night, he somehow ends up having a threesome by doing absolutely fvcking nothing. Dude has that awkward nerdy introverted gamer vibe, no game, does not work out, works a minimalist job, buttttt he looks like Ryan Gosling in the face. And to top it off he has never dealt with toxic women always ends his relationships on his terms doesn’t know a single thing about game and still gets max investment from women without even trying.

Meanwhile, you guys are over here putting in all this work and effort to only receive emotional abuse & bu ll from women. BTW, these women had a lot of guys blowing up their phones too. Furthermore, my cold approacher friend has one of the highest lay counts I know, so he is not a novice or anything. This is why you shouldn't be sweating over women because they do not give a flying fvck about the average man and will drop everything for facial genetics.

Last, I learned that you can pay to have women around you at a club lol.
Your friend on phone is also playing the game, ways are different … one is playing by approach other is just show me signs and ill fxck your mind out !
Both works I guess
 

Manure Spherian

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This.....^^^^^
There have been a few here who have said otherwise and that even hitting on or screwing other men’s women carry no risk, when both have shown to carry violent or even deadly risk. One poster on here said, “he (meaning the average guy) isn’t gonna fight.”

As said previously, when I unknowingly hit on another man’s woman as a very young guy, that guy was ready to fight. A violent drunk and sociopath I went to high school, 6’2”, a gang member, and good with his hands, in his twenties, violently threatened a former friend of his in front of a Manhattan bar and made him BOW DOWN and apologize because a chic was screening both of them, figuratively and literally.
 
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