Haha how is this going so far?

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I just found this place last night and I think it's changed my life haha. I've got no problem getting dates or numbers and I've done the neg hit thing successfully forever and didn't even know it was a real concept until last night. But I'm not always good at the follow through part. Anyway check this out. (This is a long ass story that covers about a week, sorry).

I get this girls # from work last week (probably a 7), we go out for some drinks and it was ok. Next night we go out again, this time w her friend, and I'm not expecting much. When we walk in I see two girls I know from work who are way hotter than her and I immediately ditch her to go say hey to them but no big deal.

I go back to her and her friend, we order drinks, she asks me if I checked out the link to her modeling pics on her facebook and I say "Nope, didn't notice that!" She looks shocked and whips out her phone and shows me like her entire portfolio, some of which were "classy noodz" to which I mostly commented on the photographers choice of lighting and composition. Again, the shocked look.

At this point two guys we briefly talked to earlier join us and at some point she gives her # to one of them which I didn't catch at the time. I take her home but fd up and didn't make a move (this is the follow through part I suck at).

We go out again next night, totally lame date and I'm thinking this is a waste of time. Next night I go out with friends.

Saturday night comes and she and I go to a biker bar to see her friends band. It was vibing extremely awkward from the minute I picked her up with her talking about getting all drunk and flirting with cops and firefighters etc. Strike 1!

We're having a good time at the bar though and then she tells me whatshisname that she gave her # to a few nights ago is going to show up. Strike 2!

I miss a perfect "neg hit" when she asks me several times if I think her shirt makes her look fat and tell her "Of course not!" like an idiot. He shows up and she immediately forgets I'm there and is all up in his business, touching his arm etc. I turn around at one point and see his arm around her waist. Strike 3!

I politely tell her "I'm bailing, can you find a ride home?" and leave. Totally weak. Next day she asks me if I had fun. I politely tell her I did not have fun, that I had been sure she was into me not this dude and that it was lame behavior. Next day at work she keeps emailing me little sad faces and when I ask what's up she replies with "Oh nothing" type nonsense.
She texts me later and says she can't stop thinking about what I said to her. I ask what she's thinking about it and she says "Oh I dunno." I ask what specific thing I said is it that she's thinking about and she says "The me being into you thing" and I tell her "Okay this feels like high school" and call it a night.

Yesterday I blew her off almost the whole day except when she said she liked my haircut for which I thanked her. She asked me if I wanted to go out for drinks and I said possibly and never brought it up again. Today same deal. She asked me if I wanted to go to a karaoke place tonight, I told her I had to make food for work tomorrow (not a lie!!) and didn't bring it up again.

She emailed me again to tell me my haircut looks "really... good" and stopped by my desk after she left to remind me that she's going out and told me to text her about 3 times in the conversation. I do text her at about 1am and ask how the karaoke's going. She says she went to a non karaoke bar and I tell her it's too bad she's not sharing her singing with everyone (she's a terrible singer). She sends an LOL response which I ignore (I don't respond to those 99% of the time) and 45 min later she just sends me one that says "Come over."

Now until I found this website and did some reading I would've gone over and tried to hook up. Instead I wait about a half hour and say "Come over where?" She hasn't responded and if she does I'm telling her "I'm just about to get into bed" which is also true.
So my thought is this. I think I did ALMOST everything right on the 2nd date but the 4th date was easily the biggest disaster date I've ever had. I don't think she was expecting me to call her on her bs and since then has been trying really hard to "get back in my good graces" or whatever.

I'm also thinking that not going over to potentially hook up at her command tonight is not what she was expecting or used to. Again, she's a 7 but she seems to think she's way hotter than she is and clearly gets tons of attention. The fact that we work in the same place is a potential problem and I don't even know if there's a point in trying to recover from that hilarious bad date. Anyway, tell me what I've done right and wrong here!
 
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"I get this girls # from work last week"

I read that, and stopped.. to you I say if this job means sh1t to you don't do it.

Don't sh1t where you eat yo.
 

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Alright, keep with the aloofness, but try to make it more genuine loofness. Taper back on the texts. Go out, and if she corners you, tell her you are going out with friends. put her emotions on a roller coaster ride. But it's kind of rough, since she works with you. I'll save the sermon...
 

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Holy paragraphs Batman!

Maybe next time you could make your wall of text easier to read.
 

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^^^ This
I can't even begin to figure out where to start reading this crap.
 

Peace and Quiet

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Yeah sorry about that, I didn't realize how long this nonsense was when I typed it. Edited up for better readability hopefully.
 

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openless said:
Yeah sorry about that, I didn't realize how long this nonsense was when I typed it. Edited up for better readability hopefully.
Its still pretty badly formatted so I haven't read it yet.

Put an extra blank line in between each paragraph, makes things much easier.

Like this.
 

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you just did a dumb azz dude thing. Your whole purpose is to eff her is it not? Then why in the hell would you not go over? I hope you really felt like a man jacking off that night instead of being in bed with her. Also you went on 4 dates already you should be boning chicks no later then the third date. What kind od "don juan" would make these obvious mistakes
 

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joe henny said:
you just did a dumb azz dude thing. Your whole purpose is to eff her is it not? Then why in the hell would you not go over? I hope you really felt like a man jacking off that night instead of being in bed with her. Also you went on 4 dates already you should be boning chicks no later then the third date. What kind od "don juan" would make these obvious mistakes
A really bad one?
 

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joe henny said:
you just did a dumb azz dude thing. Your whole purpose is to eff her is it not? Then why in the hell would you not go over? I hope you really felt like a man jacking off that night instead of being in bed with her. Also you went on 4 dates already you should be boning chicks no later then the third date. What kind od "don juan" would make these obvious mistakes
Relax foo shes playing mind games with him ....

openless said:
she just sends me one that says "Come over."

Instead I wait about a half hour and say "Come over where?" She hasn't responded and if she does I'm telling her "I'm just about to get into bed" which is also true.
You fell for the bait ... shes testing you to see if you want her and you failed.

Your strongest weapon was to ignore her !
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Bible_Belt said:
The girl has asked you to fvck her about 18 times. She is being as direct as a woman will ever be.
What a great post. Its being able to understand those simple, somewhat subtle cues that separates the guy who gets azz from the guy who does not.

I recently started making those connections in my mind -- before, I was stuck in this mind frame of "no girl wants to fvck me" -- now that I can objectively see the way girls are acting I'm just beginning to realize how many girls are actually really into me.
 

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Looks you found this place just in time...this was cringe-worthy, but we've all been there before.

Here's your mistakes that landed you in 'friendzone':

1) Accepting a group date the night after your first date. That's a huge step backwards! Your goal is to ISOLATE her, and her friends would prevent this from happening.

2) Not making a move the second night. This cemented you as "just a friend" in her mind, since you've been too chicken to give a proper statement of intent.

3) Going out with her THE VERY NEXT NIGHT. NO!!! One date a week, tops, until you've gotten physical. You were right in thinking this a waste of time.

4a) Sulking when she brought another guy to her friend's show. You should've been out chatting up other girls.

4b) Telling her you didn't have fun bc you thought she was into you, not him. NO!!! Never admit stuff like that to a woman! Now she KNOWS that you're obsessed with her and too chicken to make a move on her.

5) Texting her at 1 am, then responding to the "Come over" text. Should've ignored it altogether. It wasn't an invite to hook up, btw. She's using you purely for validation, and she's telling all her friends how obsessed with her you are.

If you want her to become remotely interested in you as a sexual partner, you need to ignore her pleas for attention and game other girls for a while. Since you've emphasized that she's "only" a 7, this shouldn't be a problem.

I recommend reading the "dj bible" and exploring the topics on this site for awhile. Handling girls is not an intuitive sense for most of us, and you are no exception. It'll be confusing at first, and you'll wonder why girls like so many silly games, but then you'll catch on and never have to worry about being alone.

Good luck!
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
Looks you found this place just in time...this was cringe-worthy, but we've all been there before.

Here's your mistakes that landed you in 'friendzone':

1) Accepting a group date the night after your first date. That's a huge step backwards! Your goal is to ISOLATE her, and her friends would prevent this from happening.

2) Not making a move the second night. This cemented you as "just a friend" in her mind, since you've been too chicken to give a proper statement of intent.

3) Going out with her THE VERY NEXT NIGHT. NO!!! One date a week, tops, until you've gotten physical. You were right in thinking this a waste of time.

4a) Sulking when she brought another guy to her friend's show. You should've been out chatting up other girls.

4b) Telling her you didn't have fun bc you thought she was into you, not him. NO!!! Never admit stuff like that to a woman! Now she KNOWS that you're obsessed with her and too chicken to make a move on her.

5) Texting her at 1 am, then responding to the "Come over" text. Should've ignored it altogether. It wasn't an invite to hook up, btw. She's using you purely for validation, and she's telling all her friends how obsessed with her you are.

If you want her to become remotely interested in you as a sexual partner, you need to ignore her pleas for attention and game other girls for a while. Since you've emphasized that she's "only" a 7, this shouldn't be a problem.

I recommend reading the "dj bible" and exploring the topics on this site for awhile. Handling girls is not an intuitive sense for most of us, and you are no exception. It'll be confusing at first, and you'll wonder why girls like so many silly games, but then you'll catch on and never have to worry about being alone.

Good luck!


This is on the money!

You might not have trouble getting numbers or dates, but you have a lot to learn on how to close and escalate.






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