Hacker finds cover up info about aliens in NASA and US military

[SamePendo]

I WANT TO BELIEVE

Scary huh?

1) Scary how all this can probably be true.
2) Scary the distances some dudes go in order to make up strange ****.

But, for me, mostly scary for option one. :nervous:

 

[Nighthawk]

There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis.

Ufo nuts - give it up. Everyone has video cameras on their mobile phones these days and still NO clear picture of a ufo, alien, poltergeist, WMD or even Elvis.

'The human needs attention, and cares not whether it's real or imagined,' as we about you say on Regel 5.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

I haven't seen any UFO's, but have spotted several illegal aliens

 

[SamePendo]

I haven't seen any UFO's, but have spotted several illegal aliens

:rockon:

:crackup:

 

[Bible_Belt]

That's a good point about the camera phones.

http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/OakIsland/

On an unrelated note, what's beneath Oak Island?

 

[Shiftkey]

I believe there is intelligent alien life, but I doubt we have recovered and successfully reverse engineered any alien technology. I don't see any reason to keep it secret. This story is lacking motive.

 

[KarmaSutra]

I know bears exist but try going out into the woods and finding a carcass.

Just because you don't see something doesn't mean it's not real.

 

[Cash]

^ Of course there's alien life. Of the infinite number of planets out there, the chances of no other intelligent life is prreetty remote (Impossible). We are a mere grain of sand.

But clearly this cat is a fantasist.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

aliens are signaling the return of the nephelim. Do some search on nephilim to find out what they are.

 

[KarmaSutra]

aliens are signaling the return of the nephelim. Do some search on nephilim to find out what they are.

The Zecharia Sitchin stuff is actually pretty interesting. Read Robert Anton Wilson or Bob Frissells' books if you really wanna get turned around.

 

[Wiesman44]

all the cover up stories about the US and UFO's are really interested. I've always been fascinated with that stuff, but its so difficult to believe.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

The Zecharia Sitchin stuff is actually pretty interesting. Read Robert Anton Wilson or Bob Frissells' books if you really wanna get turned around.

or just go to www.stargods.org

it might sound wacky but if you read the articles you will know it is some deep stuff.

 

[john_1234]

i always get a kick out of watching tv shows about this. very interesting. man, that'd be so cool if aliens really do exist

 

[Friendly Otter]

If there were aliens, any government would love to tell the story. The people would instantly forget all their petty complaints and gaze toward the stars, while in fear supporting their government no matter what. The president who could first get a photo-op with an alien would be remembered for all time, no matter what else he had or hadn't done.



Are there aliens? "Millions of stars," we hear, but people always forget that there's also billions of years of time. Billions of years does the universe exist - scientists believe it is 12 to 14 billion years old at this point, and it will keep existing for at least that long. How long does an intelligent lifeform live? A million years? Let's say a million years. That's one thousandth of a billion, a blink of an eye in the universal timeline. And that blink of an eye is supposed to coincide with ours?

If you think about it, it's absurd.

Draw a line from London to Hong Kong - that is 8,252 miles. Times 3 that is 24,756 time units that will represent the millions of years the universe could exist - 24,756 million years. A third of a mile represents a million years. (In this case, well over half the timeline would have already passed by now. But it is likely that the universe will exist much longer than that.)

Now get a ball, and jump into a jet. Fly from London across Europe, across the Middle East, across East Asia, until you reach Hong Kong. Along the way, completely at random, you drop the ball, let it fall to the ground.

Now call a friend in London and tell him to travel the same route, but don't tell him where you dropped your ball. He travels across Europe, the Middle East and Asia, and like you he drops the ball somewhere along the line, not knowing where you did so - maybe in France, maybe in Greece, maybe somewhere near Iran, or in Tibet?

What are the odds of these two balls ending up within the same third of a mile along this distance?

Those are the odds of a million years of human life coinciding with a million years of alien life, in a universe that exists for about 24 756 million years. (And in reality, it will probably exist much longer.)

 

[LowPlainsDrifter]

I think this hacker is really just a publicity seeker.
While I do believe that the odds are great of alien intelligences existing outside of our solar system, I think so far the UFO phenomenon is comprised entirely of freakish atmospheric conditions, space debris re-entering and burning up, misidentified/unidentified aircraft, ball lightning, and other causes that have yet to be discovered.
I actually don't think governments would let a cat like that out of the bag anyway. I think people's reactions would be too unpredictable - some would panic, others would perhaps abandon their work, believing that we're about to receive technological gifts that would make most current human endeavors unnecessary.
A lot of "UFO" cases seem spectacular, but even the so-called, "can't be explained" ones fall apart under renewed skepticism and scrutiny.
Some of the logic doesn't hold up. Take for example the alleged UFO crash at Roswell; an alien ship that has crossed the stars would have a level of structural and material engineering that we couldn't even begin to fathom. I find it tough to believe that such a craft would either experience a sudden failure or be shot down by our military - it would either disable or evade a missile, if it even showed up on radar. Yes, there was a cordoning off of the area and a piece-by-piece cleanup of the debris field, but I would think that a shattered alien reactor would have caused some sort of huge detonation, sickened recovery workers and civilian residents with radiation, and left a footprint of elevated radioactivity behind.
I'm not slamming UFO believers or researchers, just saying that people need to be a bit more skeptical and willing to do a bit of digging for more information, and think things through a bit.

 

[spider_007]

he sounds credible but do you really thing they would let him live and talk about it????

 

[sifer]

he sounds credible but do you really thing they would let him live and talk about it????

It's a filtered media as stated below in the end of the article.

 

[Skel]

I dont believe there is other intelligent life forms that exist. I believe its a possibility but very small.

 

[thederekeffect1]

he sounds credible but do you really thing they would let him live and talk about it????

Possibly not. However, how many people who speak of UFO's, ghosts, witches, lions and wardrobes are taken seriously? Most of them are blown off as nuts. Take this discussion for example. Now, I'm not saying if I believe that he's telling the truth or not, but the majority of us blow him off as delusional. So, some hacker comes along and hacks NASA's website. Assuming that NASA would be dumb enough to put top secret information like this on the internet knowing there is a high risk that the website will get hacked simply because they're NASA which would be a hackers high score. Unlike other hackers who have hacked the website, he says that he found top secret information about aliens. Is he really a risk to the government? Are people going to take him seriously? Not really.

 

[belividere]

Friendly Otter,

In the case that there are only millions of stars than yes the probability is quite low. The more realistic number of observable stars is around 100 million million million right now. Thats 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. And those are just the ones that we can see. There are potential millions of millions more planets around stars and further more possibly a million million million moons around these planets. These numbers skew the hell outta the timeline probablility. You would also have to consider the size of the universe and the finite communication potential if em radiation is used to transmit and recieve data. If an intelligent lifeform was trying to communicate with us they would have to be quite close for us to recieve radio signals while they still existed.

If you have some time look into the Fermi Paradox and the Drake equation. These are some interesting mathematical theories on the existence of extraterrestial life.