Gym Politics

[Bingo-Player]

It seems to be the IN thing around by me at the moment to train with a member of the opposite sex

I’ve been toying with the idea for a while as i do tend to find that il push myself a little further whenever there’s chicks around the gym watching

Anyway after seeing one of the guys i know down the gym with a cute HB 8 as a training partner yesterday i decided that i want one as well

The problem is My gym has a very much strong male: female ratio id say for every 10 guys there’s one chick and the girls are aware of this, they know all eyes are on them so they dress to impress e.g. (spray on leggings, sports bras i swear to god i saw one of them out on the town a few weeks back and she actually looked better in the gym lol )

Luckily As it happens i know a nice HB 7.5 we’ve been friends for a while & she’s into her fitness and she often sends me cheeky snapchats of her ass during a session , she trains at a different gym to me at the moment so i text her last night asking if she wanted to join mine with me

Il post the convo as it seems everyone here wants to see what texts work and what don’t

*after some very minor small talk*

Me : So how about you quit your gym & join mine i need a new training partner bad

Her: tell me about it , i go on my own all the time

Me: and me, my old partner was a useless fat lump wasn’t doing my image any good

Her: ha-ha lol ive been today had such a hard work out ( tells me about it) .....im dying

Me : is that it !! (laughing emoji) do u have a sauna there tho ?

Her : nah no sauna really could use one for the end of the session though would be great

Me: so join mine and we will use sauna, steam and Jacuzzi afterwards
Her: sounds so good but is it expensive!?!

Me: you can use my discount card

Her: but it will have your face on it....

Me : yea but its better than yours ! lol yea ok could be a problem il ask what deals they’ve got then and let u know x

Her: ha-ha okay babe x

*Note how i only added a kiss at the end of the conversation and her change in tone in the last message, i won’t contact her now until Monday*

There we are job done nothing overtly complex just a natural conversation with a small amount of flirting , her hamster will start spinning when she starts wondering why i haven’t nagged her to join and from there is should be easy

The girl has an amazing body she trains hard and the thought of getting her into a bikini at the end of the session is enough to make me train 5 times as hard lol

On top of this shes going to act as perfect social proof to the other chicks in the gym

Its a win win social situation for me and depending on what sort of vibes i get from her opens up HB 7.5 to things like

“so you want to get food/coffee drink after this !?!”

 

[HoneyHitter]

Unless you're the topdog at your gym, it's a terrible move.

 

[narcissist]

Unless you're the topdog at your gym, it's a terrible move.

agreed

 

[Bingo-Player]

Why not just invite her for a drink/coffee?

Why do you need "social proof"? I never liked that term. So many of us feel like we need someone else to validate us. You are enough. You don't need some chick to make you look or feel important.

I personally don't like seeing dudes working out with chicks. My mindset is, I am there to WORK. I don't want any distractions.

Not trying to flame you. I just disagree.

i see your point and if she was any old random chick then i wouldn't go to such lengths and just go for the drink

but me and this girl have a fair bit of blurred history and she's just come out of a LTR so i need the one to one time with her without the pressure of it "being a date" to see what the lay of the land is

the social proof she will bring is merely an added bonus , and certainly won't do any harm

personally i can't see how any red blooded male wouldn't want a hot chick pushing him for those extra reps , i don't know but i know it works for me

ha no flaming taken espi i love seeing peoples viewpoints

@honeyhitter -im assuming you think theres going to be bigger and better competition to attract her attention away in the gym ?

I've been training for 3 years , 2 of them at this gym it isn't the biggest and i know the score down there pretty well , theres no competition i can't handle

if i am wrong then please explain why its a terrible move ?

 

[gravityeyelids]

I think it's solid. Good text game btw. If I had a hot chick with me, I would definitely push myself harder. Just be careful so that you dont interrupt the pace of your workouts just to chat and flirt with her.

In general I hate working out with a partner because I like to keep up the pace and I hate stopping and getting cooled down. As long as she doesn't slow you down, go for it. Just be aware of the fact that she may not end up sleeping with you. You have to be okay with the fact that, like others have said, she might possibly end up with another guy at the gym.

And I dont necessarily agree with the "top dog" statement HoneyHitter, so long as your referring to top dog in terms of physique and amount of weight moved. Most of the meatheads have absolutely no game and are more self-conscious than your average skinny dude on the street. Just because they're jacked or push more weight than him...doesn't mean she's gonna be more attracted to them necessarily. OP likely has more game than most of the guys at the gym.

In addition, At a certain point, too much bulk starts to become unattractive to women. While being gigantic and muscular can make you extremely dominant in the sense that you're bigger and stronger than other guys....at the same time I would say most women prefer a more aesthetic, lean, fit physique than a huuuuge, veiny beefcake.

If you're talking about top dog being the guys there with more game and social proof than OP, then yea HoneyHitter I would agree with you.

 

[HoneyHitter]

And I dont necessarily agree with the "top dog" statement HoneyHitter, so long as your referring to top dog in terms of physique and amount of weight moved. Most of the meatheads have absolutely no game and are more self-conscious than your average skinny dude on the street. Just because they're jacked or push more weight than him...doesn't mean she's gonna be more attracted to them necessarily. OP likely has more game than most of the guys at the gym.

What I meant is that he should be a well-respected dude at the gym, so none of the other guys try to mess with this girl as soon as she shows up. It's the same as taking a date to nightclub. It's just not a really smart thing to do.

Consider this:
1) She's attractive
2) Women love talking. A lot.
3) Guys WILL try to move in on her and startup convos. And she'll most likely not reject there conversation starters. Especially because there's barely any other chicks around she can have a talk with.
4) She's NOT his girlfriend, and you can be certain at least one of the guys will try to ask if she is.
5) If he can't demonstrate any physical or social prowess, what's the point of taking a date to the gym.

Of course, there's a slim chance the gym date improves his odds, but it's really just a roll of the dice. If you insist on taking her to they gym, at least keep her busy, within sight and keep the session short. (30-45 minutes)


Bingo-Player, rest assured that as long as it's a 1-on-1 meetup she WILL consider it to be a date!

 

[Bingo-Player]

What I meant is that he should be a well-respected dude at the gym, so none of the other guys try to mess with this girl as soon as she shows up. It's the same as taking a date to nightclub. It's just not a really smart thing to do.

i disagree with you classing the gym as a similar social environment as a nightclub , the nightclub is specifically designed to help male's & females interact , the gym isn’t and seeing as they don’t serve alcohol at the gym many guys wont even have the balls to look at her


Consider this:

1) She's attractive - so are the other chicks there

2) Women love talking. A lot. im banking on it

3) Guys WILL try to move in on her and startup convos. And she'll most likely not reject there conversation starters. Especially because there's barely any other chicks around she can have a talk with...... hadnt taken this one into account and granted if i cant make a future session it could be a problem

4) She's NOT his girlfriend, and you can be certain at least one of the guys will try to ask if she is.- not a big concern

5) If he can't demonstrate any physical or social prowess, what's the point of taking a date to the gym. its not a date lol

Of course, there's a slim chance the gym date improves his odds, but it's really just a roll of the dice. If you insist on taking her to they gym, at least keep her busy, within sight and keep the session short. (30-45 minutes)


Bingo-Player, rest assured that as long as it's a 1-on-1 meetup she WILL consider it to be a date!

anyway il let you know what happens sounds like im testing new waters to say the least

 

[Bingo-Player]

Patience is a virtue and silence is golden

I actually didn’t bother replying to this chick after she sent the last text mentioned above ,

for several reasons but mainly it was at the back of my mind and i couldn’t be bothered

Well anyway i left my phone on my desk when i went to lunch today and when i returned i had a triple text from her

Asking where i was going on holiday this year ....(WTF) and then 2 texts asking why im taking so long to reply to her (WTF)

I do reply but keep the texts short, she then asks if she can call me....(WTF) i say im working but she can ring me later on if she wants .....

She agrees and the convo closes after a little flirting

To be honest if she does call me later on this evening im just gonna invite her over and try and lay her while the irons hot

After reading Mr. Wright’s journal yesterday he mentions in a post about a girl who he was ment to take on a date but she ended up just coming to his, he was expecting major resistance from her but got none because the vibe was right

I wasn’t expecting this in the slightest!!

Infact i thought she wasn’t that bothered but it shows that by inviting her to the gym with me it got her thinking about me which got her hamster spinning when she thought i had “forgotten” about her

Will update if i manage to get her over tonight

 

[G_Govan]

I got a kick out of the way you began your post, it seemed to have no relevance to what this is really about, hooking up with this 7.5 "friend."

You didn't give an account of your history together other than you've been friends for a while. How long? Why haven't you made a move already?

I think logistics are the least of your worries.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

Me: and me, my old partner was a useless fat lump wasn’t doing my image any good

Me: me too, my old partner quit recently and we had a lot of fun together.

see how different it sounds? as opposed to the original stuck up, arrogant attempt to hide insecurities (your image being threatened by a partner)?
girls pick up on that very fast. from that single sentence they will label you as:
1. shallow
2. seeking approval by speaking bad about others
3. your image depending on other people
4. insecurity / beta

anyway, i don't really see the point ina girl being a gym partner (especially if you lift heavy). she cannot spot you, she will make you do stupid things in trying to impress her, and actually perform worse.
i actually have a "fat" partner, and it helps a lot more with my pickups. i regularly get compliments from the girls there about how nice i am to help out another guy losing weight, and that guy is strong, so he can actually HELP me when i lift for strength.

and i didn't even mention the feeling when you pull your weight and will see another guy approaching your girl. one with confidence, game and charisma. motivation lost right there.

no hate here, i hope you get the point.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Me: me too, my old partner quit recently and we had a lot of fun together.

see how different it sounds? as opposed to the original stuck up, arrogant attempt to hide insecurities (your image being threatened by a partner)?
girls pick up on that very fast. from that single sentence they will label you as:
1. shallow
2. seeking approval by speaking bad about others
3. your image depending on other people
4. insecurity / beta

anyway, i don't really see the point ina girl being a gym partner (especially if you lift heavy). she cannot spot you, she will make you do stupid things in trying to impress her, and actually perform worse.
i actually have a "fat" partner, and it helps a lot more with my pickups. i regularly get compliments from the girls there about how nice i am to help out another guy losing weight, and that guy is strong, so he can actually HELP me when i lift for strength.

and i didn't even mention the feeling when you pull your weight and will see another guy approaching your girl. one with confidence, game and charisma. motivation lost right there.

no hate here, i hope you get the point.

Lol mate your reading way too far into things

Me: me too, my old partner quit recently and we had a lot of fun together.

It Sounds homo, scripted and weak

i would even go as far as your trying to hint towards a sexual reference at the end there which would have sent her running for the hills if she is indeed looking this deeply into it

Look I’m not saying it isn’t risky but its 2014 and chicks these days are wise the old

“let me take you out on xyz line”

They’re eating guys alive hence why there are thousands of threads just on this one forum

Ive “dated” plenty of chicks this year and it gets you nowhere fast i even know girls who openly admit to going out on a “date” just for the free ride

The best way to game a woman is to catch her while her guard is down and that isn’t by sitting opposite her in a restaurant telling her about how much money you have

It’s by isolating her in an environment where she doesn’t feel pressured by social stereotypes

Gain her trust and she will spread her legs



And finally just to add some closure to this topic taking this girl to the gym wasn’t originally because i wanted to game her it was to get the other chicks there whom are currently difficult to open..... questioning

WHY IS SHE WITH HIM, AND WHY ARENT I WITH HIM

 

[Kailex]

And finally just to add some closure to this topic taking this girl to the gym wasn’t originally because i wanted to game her it was to get the other chicks there whom are currently difficult to open..... questioning

WHY IS SHE WITH HIM, AND WHY ARENT I WITH HIM

Has this ever actually worked at a gym?
I've never seen a FR or anything to suggest this. Maybe it's because the gym that I go to people actually go to workout... but I've seen plenty of co-ed workouts and people just seem to automatically assume they are a couple.

Like Espi, I'm not sure how much I agree on the whole "social proof" (specially at a gym) and this all seems a little too Machiavellian for something that shouldn't take that much effort.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

well, i don't mind sounding "homo and weak" sometimes, some of my best lays were because of them.
scripted? maybe, not for me though i genuinely have fun with everyone anyway, so it is the truth. i can see why to some it may seem scripted. i guess people are different. for me, being open in a friendly, positive, non-aggressive way and not being afraid to seem gay or whatever phobias people have nowadays, got me very far with everyone, not just women. good luck though.

 

[dasein]

Try it for a month, what's the harm? I don't see how having a hot workout partner could hurt. It's not my style, because I don't like to talk while working out, but for others why not?

 

[G_Govan]

And finally just to add some closure to this topic taking this girl to the gym wasn’t originally because i wanted to game her it was to get the other chicks there whom are currently difficult to open..... questioning

WHY IS SHE WITH HIM, AND WHY ARENT I WITH HIM

The majority of your post went into great detail about trying to get this chick to work out with you with the intent to lay her, nothing wrong with that, but it sounds like you're trying too hard to create buffers for rejection.

Social proof is great, but the gym isn't the equivelant to say a bar/club. I agree with whoever said it will simply look like you're a couple. I've seen guys try to pick up at the gym, rarely. One guy made some small talk and asked a chick out straight up, I didn't know the guy but I was impressed with how he initiated it. She declined in a very polite way and there was no awkwardness, they just went about their business.

In my opinion its best to just make small talk and be honest and forthcoming about your interest. No need to beat around the bush with contrived scenarios you have to coordinate with other people. Its the gym after all.

 

[Bingo-Player]

@G_Govan- I'm going into detail because i want others to understand the angles I'm covering , i also want people to be able to create a realistic image of what I'm talking about

everything on here can be relevant depending on how you interpret it,

i try to describe all the scenarios I'm involved in with women as best as i can so that others can relate to them and use what works and what dosent

i agree that my writing style perhaps could come across as slightly confusing but it is not intentional

@crimsonpanter - reading my reply back to you it sounds slightly strong lol apologies , .........i appreciate that women in your area may respond better to the text example you gave

but if i sent something like that within my area it wouldn't wash, again as you say different personalities also way in heavily here


@Kailex - i don't know which is why exactly why i want to test the waters with it

if it works great we can all start taking chicks to the gym instead of a restaurant if it don't then no ones going to loose any sleep