Guys here who are very lean, do you get more attention from women at 8-10% bodyfat than 15-20%?

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Only reason I ask is the male face makes a huge difference from 15-20% BF down to 8-10%. This is assuming you have a masculine facial structure. If you have no chin or a weak jawline, you're screwed no matter what. This is probably the most extreme example I've ever seen






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Do you guys notice a big difference? do you get better quality chicks? Do you get more women approaching you? just curious
 

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9%, basically as low as possible. Was easier to so before I needed cardio. When I hit 15% or higher I am invisible to women. At 9% random women take pictures with me to make ppl jealous lol
so why do you say dating is so hard then? You said you have a good looking face, lean, you live in LA right?

and i don't think you're nearly as specific as i am
 

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I wouldn’t get caught up in the numbers so much as body fat is quite difficult to measure accurately.

Just worry about staying fit.
 
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I don't know if you are lean and pretty on LA people will think youa re gay first.


lol serious stop caring how other guys look, and concentrate on you, didn't we said this before?
 

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Dating isn't as hard as you think it is, the women are just not very loyal.
I know tons of very loyal women but i don't live in LA

my family is full of beautiful and very loyal women but I'm Armenian...we have strong family values. Divorce barely exists in Armenia
 

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This out of shape guy was grabbing her ass in public and she was all into him. In real life things are never as black and white as you'd want to believe.
 

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This out of shape guy was grabbing her ass in public and she was all into him. In real life things are never as black and white as you'd want to believe.
she looks out of shape also though
 

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Bro I see people that are tradionay not attractive but because if the way the hold themselves, because of their confidence, even the expressions on their face they get laid by hotties all the time. I have a friend like this. He’s a 4/10 and he has sex with 8/10 women.
 

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Also. I find the concept of being insecure about appearance to be very feminine. That’s something women worry about. When you throwing out all this feminine energy, dating will be hard for you. You fap frequently?
 

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Also. I find the concept of being insecure about appearance to be very feminine. That’s something women worry about. When you throwing out all this feminine energy, dating will be hard for you. You fap frequently?
Probably so. It further insures that your sexual vibe is no good.
 

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she looks out of shape also though
She has some love handles (I actually like them, a little something to spank and grab) but had a cute face and no cellulite I could see, very fvckable...to me anyway. But even then, the dude is waaaay out of shape, pregnant belly and all.
 

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This out of shape guy was grabbing her ass in public and she was all into him. In real life things are never as black and white as you'd want to believe.
I went out with a few friends and 2 girls I knew said to a mate who's a gym junkie, that they prefer a dadbod over a dude that was ripped. The look of disbelief on his face was hilarious. Their reasoning that the "dadbod" dude would have more personality and character about him.
 

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I went out with a few friends and 2 girls I knew said to a mate who's a gym junkie, that they prefer a dadbod over a dude that was ripped. The look of disbelief on his face was hilarious. Their reasoning that the "dadbod" dude would have more personality and character about him.
does the girl look like bru luccas or jaime koeppe?


if not, her opinion is invalid. I only care about women who workout
 

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Their reasoning that the "dadbod" dude would have more personality and character about him.
I could see how a non-self disciplined guy might be more fun to be around than someone who tries to stick to structured routines (like workouts). Sort of like how some guys who live stable, responsible lives might be considered boring. Might be. Backbreaker used to post about how guys with no jobs could direct all their energy into being and having fun.

But a lot of the appeal of the dad bod is probably that women don't feel like their own bodies are being judged so severely if the guy they're with isn't perfect.
 

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I could see how a non-self disciplined guy might be more fun to be around than someone who tries to stick to structured routines (like workouts). Sort of like how some guys who live stable, responsible lives might be considered boring. Might be. Backbreaker used to post about how guys with no jobs could direct all their energy into being and having fun.

But a lot of the appeal of the dad bod is probably that women don't feel like their own bodies are being judged so severely if the guy they're with isn't perfect.
1)I actually agree that people who live very tight, strict lives aren't that fun. Yes I love fitness but Saturday nights, I go out and eat whatever I want and drink whatever I want. You gotta have 1-2 days a week where you allow yourself total freedom. Everything in moderation

2)I agree that the appeal of the dad bod is related to women not being judged

3)The only women who say they don't like an awesome, chiseled physique look like garbage themselves for the most part. You think a girl who looks like this is going to be into dad bods? not a chance
 

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The only women who say they don't like an awesome, chiseled physique look like garbage themselves for the most part.
Perhaps, perhaps not. PUAs have always said that the better looking a girl is, the more insecure she is about her looks. I don't know if I agree with that or not, I think it's one of those things that are true in some cases and not in others. Like most PUA lore.

Also, there are those women who are driven by other things not so related to the physical. Caretaker types for instance, who like men who are broken in some way, and feel the urge to care for them.
But all that aside, I would rather be in good shape than not.
 

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I could see how a non-self disciplined guy might be more fun to be around than someone who tries to stick to structured routines (like workouts). Sort of like how some guys who live stable, responsible lives might be considered boring. Might be. Backbreaker used to post about how guys with no jobs could direct all their energy into being and having fun.

But a lot of the appeal of the dad bod is probably that women don't feel like their own bodies are being judged so severely if the guy they're with isn't perfect.
I might add these girls are in their late twenties, there looking long term hence their appreciation for more of a "dadbod" look.

In my experience dudes who are into their chiseled looks have had little to no game and rely heavily on their looks.

The whole explosion of guys becoming gym junkies and focusing on gainzz has just become the male version of women with an eating disorder.
 

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I think the "appeal" of a dad bod to women is just women who don't want to be in a totally uneven relationship where the guy has all the options and all the power

Like how i wouldn't recommend you seriously date a supermodel even if you could
 
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