Guy stabs girl for rejecting his prom offer

[speed dawg]

Again...crazy crap has been happening like this long before feminism. So itd be smart of dudes to think deeper than to blame feminism or the left whenever we discuss current events here. Its the convenient buzz word scapegoat (along with terms like AFC), that keep people from digging deeper. You wanna have a deeper discussion to get to the bottom of all this? Then lets have it without the lame buzzwords and with more in-depth analysis. Lets not go the usual route of saying "blah blah blah....crazy....blah blah blah ...feminist....blah blah blah AFC".

I see it all too often when a dude goes crazy and hurts innocent women. Theres more to it than buzzwords and calling out feminism. Yet its rare that people try to look further than that. Has anyone tried to look into the kids background or the background of the town or school? A good place to start is where do some people get such entitlement, that if things dont go their way, they feel its license to hurt someone.

It could very well be a sense of entitlement, just as LiveFreeX said (and consequently, you tried to take some credit, because it helped validate your agenda). But it could be the kid's lack of a strong masculine figure in his life (something you obviously feel is unnecessary).

But that's not the issue with you. Your problem is that you completely dismiss a valid potential answer to the question, because it doesn't jive with your viewpoints. And instead of trying to learn something and coming to a third alternative answer, you spend all your energy attempting to prove your point correct, no matter the consequences. The DEFINITION of an ineffective person.

Congratulations, you're a loser.

 

[TheSlasher]

AFC-ness, feminism, or the lack of a father figure could be reasons for this kind of behavior. But I remember, two years ago or so, I did research on this kind of stuff (but it's actually broader than just teenage guys killing girls who rejected them) and apparently, even the FBI couldn't point a cause or any other factor useful for profiling murderers, especially serial killers. Maybe, if some university or group would make a research on this specific demographic (guys killing girls who rejected them), obtain a valid number of samples, and studied it using a qualified methodology, we can come up with better answers, or maybe there are already existing research about this.

 

[LiveFreeX]

http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/stories/chinese-man-gets-divorced-runs-down-19-people-with-car.html

PROOF POSITIVE, this is what happens when spoiled brats don't get their way. BTW Anyone who owns a car in CHina, doesn't actually have to work for a living. Cars here are so expensive and only the REAL rich have access to getting a driver's license... just to get a license you need to spend nearly 10 thousand dollars. This is just another case of "You can't say no to me!".
The weak prey on other weak... the powerless bully the ones under them, happens here ALL THE TIME.

 

[LiveFreeX]

http://www.chinasmack.com/2013/stor...-young-wife-over-30x-to-death-in-nanjing.html

April 25th, in the Nanjing Jian’ye District Xidi International residential neighborhood, a post-80s generation husband angrily hacked his post-90s generation wife over 30 times until she died, with the most pitiful thing being a little baby just 100 days old being left behind. Afterward, netizens uncovered what is suspected of being the victim @小Q_lady‘s photos with her husband posted online not long ago, while her husband Ji Xingpeng has been revealed as being a member of the Nanjing FSC Super Car Club, comes from a rich family, has numerous luxury residences, has previously spent as much as 100,000 RMB on playing video game in a month, and has had exhibited domestic violence after drinking.

100,000 RMB is about 18,000 USD. Here it is like 100,000 USD.

[fù èrdài / fu4 er4 dai4]
noun.
“Rich second generation” or “second generation rich/wealthy”, the children of wealthy parents.


Student Stabs, Kills Teacher For Confiscating Mobile Phone

http://www.chinasmack.com/2013/stor...ls-teacher-for-confiscating-mobile-phone.html

Spoiled Child Slaps & Chokes Mother In Public For Toy

http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/pictures/spoiled-child-slaps-chokes-mother-in-public-for-toy.html

If only this stuff was bizarre but its quite normal to see here. Today after work I'm waiting at the elevators with my wife...There is this kid about say 11 yearsold with his dad, punching him in the side of the face. I looked at the dad and said "Hit that little ****" with a smacking gesture. The dad turned his nose up at me and let the kid keep on smacking him while we waited... I'm not sh1tting you.

You guys don't know how bad its getting over here, just today some kid was disrupting my class with this friggin eraser... after 3 times of telling him to stop, I pulled it off of him... it was weird. He stuck his tongue out at me an as soon as my back was turned he went full retard on the kids around him bashing and kicking over desks, crying... like nuts... he cried the entire 40 minutes in between slamming his fist on the desk... this is a 12 yearold BOY, all for an inch long eraser. Now, you tell me, something isn't wrong when I have this happening in about 1/3 of my classes.

 

[DJ Logic]

http://www.returnofkings.com/26763/girls-with-short-hair-are-damaged

Wow, this thread sure picked up steam.

As the OP let me just say that I believe that the term AFC extends beyond the realm of women.

Average - Unexceptional. No reason to feel proud or confident
Frustrated - Stuck in a rut with no clue how to get out. Trapped by crippling, self-imposed impotence
Chump - Subject to the whims of others. No spine, backbone or balls

The reason why we associate AFC with women is because sex is a primary driving force for us lowly mammals. Given the choice between food, water, shelter and p*ssy, we pretty much opt for the latter every time. In the wild some animals are known to f*ck literally to death during mating season. Sex simply is our biggest motivator because nature is smart and knows it's the only way to propagate a species.

That said, these symptoms dig deeper beyond our impulses. AFC is a spiritual sickness, a complete disconnect from one's essence, purpose and value. When you dig deep enough into this hole of desperation, ugly things happen. People kill themselves, others and even their own kids over this sh*t. Are they still 100% responsible for their actions? ABSO-F*CKING-LUTELY! Does society and the general direction it seems to be pissing in help? Not a damn bit.

I'm afraid these sorts of incidents will become more prevalent over time as people fail to align themselves with who they wish to be, and men especially continue to develop collective amnesia as to what it means to be a strong, independent man. The current trend of misandry parading under the guise of entitlement and social feminine "liberation" is definitely not doing a lick of good here. Neither is the sh*t parenting job most people are doing. It seems that both sides of this argument are correct

 

[Jaylan]

LiveFreeX,

Im surprised at those stories. I thought Chinese parents were usually hardcore and authoritative compared to American parents. Yikes. My kids, if I have any, better never catch lip with me or Im beating their asses.

It could very well be a sense of entitlement, just as LiveFreeX said (and consequently, you tried to take some credit, because it helped validate your agenda). But it could be the kid's lack of a strong masculine figure in his life (something you obviously feel is unnecessary).

But that's not the issue with you. Your problem is that you completely dismiss a valid potential answer to the question, because it doesn't jive with your viewpoints. And instead of trying to learn something and coming to a third alternative answer, you spend all your energy attempting to prove your point correct, no matter the consequences. The DEFINITION of an ineffective person.

Congratulations, you're a loser.

Keep whining bro Youre quite good at it.

My point stands...this ish has been happening forever...and like I said...the usual scapegoats prevent a productive conversation. Go b!tch somewhere else sonny. I dont have anything to learn from you of all people.

AFC-ness, feminism, or the lack of a father figure could be reasons for this kind of behavior. But I remember, two years ago or so, I did research on this kind of stuff (but it's actually broader than just teenage guys killing girls who rejected them) and apparently, even the FBI couldn't point a cause or any other factor useful for profiling murderers, especially serial killers. Maybe, if some university or group would make a research on this specific demographic (guys killing girls who rejected them), obtain a valid number of samples, and studied it using a qualified methodology, we can come up with better answers, or maybe there are already existing research about this.

Its a very hard thing to explain. Everyone reacts differently to social stimuli...which is why such behavior is hard to predict. Some people are sheltered with decent families, and then go bonkers....while others had rough lives and went bonkers. But even then "rough" is relative. Kids got bullied back in the day or rejected by someone they like, and were forced to just deal with it. Today many kids will self-harm, commit suicide, or lash out and hurt their peers.

And speaking of suicide, I was looking at East Asian suicide figures when compared with the UK or America. South Korea has a huge suicide rate...and among celebrities its very common. Apparently people dont handle social pressure or failure well there....while in America people wont be so quick to off themselves if they dont succeed. And a place like South Korea is known for having a stronger family structure than a place like the US. So it wouldnt be easy to say lack of a strong male presence breeds weakness (which I have seen said here with regard to way children handle emotional distress)

All of this is very complicated.

 

[speed dawg]

Keep whining bro Youre quite good at it.

My point stands...this ish has been happening forever...and like I said...the usual scapegoats prevent a productive conversation. Go b!tch somewhere else sonny. I dont have anything to learn from you of all people.

Do you take estrogen injections? Just curious.

 

[Jaylan]

Do you take estrogen injections? Just curious.

Stop being a whiny little pillow biter and take this sh!t elsewhere. Im not getting into a flame war with you. Have fun bro.

 

[speed dawg]

Stop being a whiny little pillow biter and take this sh!t elsewhere. Im not getting into a flame war with you. Have fun bro.

What's with you and the word "whiny"? It's almost like you take your own pathetic self and portray it onto others.

Look, if you can't handle big boy discussion, stay out of the thread. All you've done so far is troll it. Nothing you've said makes sense. What's REALLY pathetic is that you probably aren't a troll, you believe this junk. A troll could at least be respected as being a troll. You're just a goat living in a feminized fantasy world. I bet you loved Frozen.

 

[VikingKing]

If only this stuff was bizarre but its quite normal to see here. Today after work I'm waiting at the elevators with my wife...There is this kid about say 11 yearsold with his dad, punching him in the side of the face. I looked at the dad and said "Hit that little ****" with a smacking gesture. The dad turned his nose up at me and let the kid keep on smacking him while we waited... I'm not sh1tting you.

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[VikingKing]

Again...crazy crap has been happening like this long before feminism. So itd be smart of dudes to think deeper than to blame feminism or the left whenever we discuss current events here. Its the convenient buzz word scapegoat (along with terms like AFC), that keep people from digging deeper. You wanna have a deeper discussion to get to the bottom of all this? Then lets have it without the lame buzzwords and with more in-depth analysis. Lets not go the usual route of saying "blah blah blah....crazy....blah blah blah ...feminist....blah blah blah AFC".

I see it all too often when a dude goes crazy and hurts innocent women. Theres more to it than buzzwords and calling out feminism. Yet its rare that people try to look further than that. Has anyone tried to look into the kids background or the background of the town or school? A good place to start is where do some people get such entitlement, that if things dont go their way, they feel its license to hurt someone.

But I bet you gaylan, if this kid knew how sh!t really works, and knew how to properly game women and get himself laid, this incident would not have happened. He would have had plates, and other options.

This attack was due to the fact he was raised with a Disney movie (the one) mentality, but he doesn't realize it was probably a result of his sexual drive (the frustration).

Instead of just labeling these (mostly) male children as maniacs, or that there is something wrong with them personally, why not dig a little deeper and look at the reason beneath the surface.

What is it that the kids are reacting to, to make them take these actions?

Not once did I blame women in general.

You know last night I was trying to sleep. My new neighbors are arguing at 1 am. Wake me up, fvkers.

I listened to it all. It consisted of her going on and on and on, calling him a liar, he basically tells her look shut the fvck up I dont want to hear about it.

She keeps going, and going, and going...

Then I heard him hit her. Of course then she starts crying. Now back in the day I would have called the police or gone over there to help that poor woman. Instead I just let it be. That's not my problem to get involved in.

Plus she was pushing the fvck out of his buttons, and she probably had this happen before and she knew it was coming.

Not that I condone it. I would just walk away if she pi$$ed me off that much.

 

[Jaylan]

You know what normal sane people do when they are rejected and fail? They try to improve themselves and get better at whatever it is they are trying to succeed at. They dont attack people for rejecting them.

Lets stop even remotely acting like lashing out violently can be explained away by blaming "disney movies". Especially considering how most dudes who believe in that stuff dont go around killing people. That is worse entitlement than the sh!t we see most women do. Taking life because you didnt get what you want is ultimate selfishness.

Theres nothing wrong with labeling people who kill others because of their own failure as maniacs or losers. Sure we can try and find out what makes them tick...but they are still crazy as cat sh!!t when decide they have to kill others because their life sucks for them.

PS - Regarding your neighbor....he reacted like an emotional puzzy. If the woman didnt hit him, putting his hands on her makes him a coward in my eyes. Guys like him usually dont ever try that sh!t with guys they know can kick their ass.

 

[VikingKing]

You know what normal sane people do when they are rejected and fail? They try to improve themselves and get better at whatever it is they are trying to succeed at. They dont attack people for rejecting them.

Lets stop even remotely acting like lashing out violently can be explained away by blaming "disney movies". Especially considering how most dudes who believe in that stuff dont go around killing people. That is worse entitlement than the sh!t we see most women do. Taking life because you didnt get what you want is ultimate selfishness.

Theres nothing wrong with labeling people who kill others because of their own failure as maniacs or losers. Sure we can try and find out what makes them tick...but they are still crazy as cat sh!!t when decide they have to kill others because their life sucks for them.

PS - Regarding your neighbor....he reacted like an emotional puzzy. If the woman didnt hit him, putting his hands on her makes him a coward in my eyes. Guys like him usually dont ever try that sh!t with guys they know can kick their ass.

Well no sh!t. But he's an afc. But if he was taught how to properly relate to women he wouldnt be doing that sh!t.

Feminism purposely blurs the gender lines to fvck us up. A lot of guys my age, and younger dont know how to walk away, or understand how sh!t really works.

What happend with my neighbor probably wouldnt have had he understood how to relate to women, same with this kid that stabbed the girl.

Feminism has a lot of responsibility in these types of incidents.

Its women like "big red" who are radical feminist, who actually (believe it or not) have influence on politics, but they shouldn't.

Feminism is social suicide.

But your from nyc right? Well no wonder why you think the way you do...

 

[Jaylan]

^News flash, domestic violence was a LOT more prevalent behavior feminism. Before feminism men could hit women without much chance of getting into trouble with the law. So trying to say feminism is why men in present times hit women is such ignorant thinking.

If you take a look at cultures that have not had feminist movements, men striking women is much more common and/or accepted in their society.

*shrug* moving along now.

 

[DonGorgon]

But why are young men going crazy? Why?

many males are facing extremely high rejection rates

 

[VikingKing]

^News flash, domestic violence was a LOT more prevalent behavior feminism. Before feminism men could hit women without much chance of getting into trouble with the law. So trying to say feminism is why men in present times hit women is such ignorant thinking.

If you take a look at cultures that have not had feminist movements, men striking women is much more common and/or accepted in their society.

*shrug* moving along now.

But cultures without feminism don't have the mass shootings we have.

From my experience women from these types of cultures seem to be a lot more respectful.

 

[Jaylan]

But cultures without feminism don't have the mass shootings we have.

From my experience women from these types of cultures seem to be a lot more respectful.

Dude, mass shootings happen for A LOT of reasons (bullying and mental health issues being high on the list). Seriously...think critically here. But meh....rather than waste time going back and forth with you on this...Ill let you continue thinking feminism makes people kill others. Its much more complex than that, and I feel much of it is down to mental illness.

 

[VikingKing]

Dude, mass shootings happen for A LOT of reasons (bullying and mental health issues being high on the list). Seriously...think critically here. But meh....rather than waste time going back and forth with you on this...Ill let you continue thinking feminism makes people kill others. Its much more complex than that, and I feel much of it is down to mental health.

Well you come from a city full of liberal retards. Is that why you defend women and feminism so much?

I'm sure we can agree on one thing gaylan. Feminism causes rape. Sweden is one of the most feminized countries in the world.

Sweden has the highest incidence of reported rapes in Europe and one of the highest in the world. According to a 2009 study, there were 46 incidents of rape per 100,000 residents. This figure is twice that of the UK which reports 23 cases, and four times that of the other Nordic countries, Germany and France. The figure is up to 20 times the figure for certain countries in southern and eastern Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Sweden

So maybe, if we had a more feminized culture, instead of stabbing her, he would have raped her instead.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I'll tell you exactly why this is happening because I see it here EVERYDAY. This is what happens when you spoil children to the point of them going
nuts when they don't get their way. This kid was likely told, everyday, that he is wonderful and special and can do no wrong. I'm surprised the kid is not Chinese.

I wrote a thread about raising kids before but I'll just repost a little about my experiences here.

I've seen a kid beat his grandmother with his fist on her face until she bled cause he didn't get to play with her phone. I saw a kid turn around and punch his mother in the face when she lost at a mother-son english game. I've seen a kid go full retard, throwing chairs and books in a classroom when people didn't pay attention to him. I was punched in the face from a kid who I asked to leave a class. I've seen ALOT of **** here from badly parented children. These kids are never smacked or hit so eventually they grow up thinking they can do whatever they want to anyone and there are no consequences to their actions.

This is what people are referring to when they talk about 'special snowflake generation'. Its simply hands off parenting coupled with spoiling the **** out of the kid. You saw the nice part, you never saw the part where they are throwing the tantrum behind closed doors... I get to see it up close and personal everyday. I know PERSONALLY of a young, super spoiled, rich, boy here who told me he stalked a girl, followed her to her house, hid behind a barrell with a knife in his bag and was going to cut her to pieces. At the end he said he couldn't go through with it but that he really wanted to and still really wants to. He brought a graphite knife to school one day just to show me how he would do it to. He's 13. She also rejected him for something or other... so yeah. BTW if you are wondering why I haven't gone to the police? Well in this country they don't GIVE A FVCK... just like the parents.

More recently, (this week), my wife had a bunch of erasers and books thrown at her and the teacher on duty after a kid lost at a game and had to do a dance infront of the entire class. That was the penalty for losing and I guess he thought it was funny when the other kids were doing it but when his turn came, he got up infront of my wife, screamed "NONONONONONONO" in her face and then went back to his seat and threw the contents of his desk at her. [we are not allowed to fight back]. The kid was 15. This happens almost every single class, at least once... so nothing new here.

The problem here is that when you tell an 'authority figure', they come in, sternly talk to the child and then pat him on the head... they think that somehow solves the problem. 15 years ago the authority figure would have come in with a meter stick and beat the sh1t out of the kid... now you're not allowed to even use harsh language.. THAT is what is wrong with these children today, they need a good hard lickin to knock some sense into them, they fear nothing.

the movie "Boyz N The Hood" is probably a good example

 

[greatsnake]

The pain from rejection is real. However, it's a matter of how you channel that rejection.