Guidelines I came up with (Provide your Feedback)

[startstrongtoday22]

Hi All, I am new to the forum and honestly this forum has helped me a lot in terms of my game and learn a lot about myself and relationships. As a way of giving back, I came up with a few guidelines to help me move forward, and also learn from my relationships. I do not expect everyone to agree with me, and I expect to get some feedback. If you think they need to be improved please let me know. The grammar may suck and also I may have repeated myself a few times.

Guidelines

1. Never ever mention your opinion in the crowd because they will label you, and then they will make fun of you after. Just go with the crowd and always pretend you are with them. Keep your opinions to yourself and around your chick. By crowd I mean your friends and her friends.
   
   
2. Never have any personal discussions about your values, religious preference, and always ask her about her values and spiritual/religious points of view, and then just agree with her version, and say that is cool. This way she will think that you are on the same page. There is no need for her to know you. Less is more. Never talk about things, just do what you want - unless you are plan on marrying her.
   
   
3. Never discuss the price of anything, or whether you can afford it or not. Never mention anything about price, always mention that you are busy or there is something else planned if she wants to do something expensive and you really can't afford it. Even if it is expensive, play it off like its not anything.
   
   
4. Always have a plan even if your plan is ****. Always have something to say you want to do, even if it is a ****ty plan. Because that way you come off as decisive and assertive. If they suggest another plan you can go with if you think your plan sucks. However, never ask a girl what she wants to do. Always do what you want. If she complains that you never ask her what to do, just tell her, oh okay, I am fine with it if you are. This way a girl knows you know where you are going.
   
   
5. Try to avoid text messaging and engaging with her a lot throughout the day. The longer you do that and the longer you chat with her, there is a chance that she may stop engaging or stop listening, and then you may say something stupid or something offensive , or reveal something that you should not have which could turn her off. This way, less is more, and the less you talk the more you she will realize that there is something missing in her life, which is YOU.
   
   
6. Try to avoid making fun of her directly and try to avoid self-depreciating humor. It is also important not to make fun of her, but to make sarcastic remarks about things but not about her, you need to make sure to NEVER ever body shame a girl, never ever make fun of her family/parents, and never ever put down her job or what she does. Teasing could be limited to pushing and pulling, but not to the extent that it can be offensive.
   
   
7. Never ever tell girl to do something to improve herself, the reason is because there is a high chance, she is aware of it herself, but is ashamed of it, but you do not want to be the person who lets her know, because she may get offended.
   
   
8. Never ever try to make opinions about everything. Never say this restaurant sucks, or what you are wearing sucks, just do not go or do not make a comment. Never say this person is that or that. Keep your opinion to yourself. If you do not like somebody or one of her friends, do not tell her, just keep it to yourself. Keep your mouth shut. Her friends are everything for her, they are the ones that she has had in her life, and she talks to when you are not around. So never ever disrespect a girl’s friends or relatives or family or anyone else that she introduces you to. If you do not like them, keep your mouth shut.
   
   
9. When you do not have anything nice to say, then do not say anything. Period. Say nothing is much more valuable then say something.
   
   
10. Do not see them more than 1 or 2 times per week. Never ever try to plan things in advance, always try to plan things on the day of, that it will keep it fresh.
    
    
11. Let them move the relationship forward, but do not get lazy in the relationship. By lazy we mean that do not let them think that you have no control. You still tell them where you want to go, you still tell them what you want to do, and if they disagree you can do what they want. Never ever fight over where to go, never ever fight about what to do, it will not work in your favor.
    
    
12. Never judge a girl about her drinking, smoking or anything, because that way she will say you are not compatible, and that you are superficial and if you do not like her you can move on. Never ever tell a girl that she should not smoke, drink, or do anything, because it is none of your business, and it is not of your concern, if you do not like then just leave her, you cannot tell to people change, there is no point, and she already knows what her ****ing problems are, so she does not someone else to remind her.
    
    
13. Never ever tell girl that she should change to be with you, or she should refrain from doing something, because that will have two potential outcomes. The first outcome, she will think that you care a lot and that way you want to super serious with her. The second outcome is that she will tell you to leave if you do not like it. It is always best to remain neutral, and let her vices be her vices, and if it gets to the point that you cannot handle it any longer, then tell her that you want to end the relationship, but never ever tell them why you want the relationship to end.
    
    
14. Never ever tell a girl why you want to end the relationship, because that way you will give them closure, and that way they will start saying they will change. Never ever make a girl feel like that she was not enough for you and that is why you are ending the relationship. This way you will always remain friends and ****ing could always remain an option.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

The first rule is that there are no rules. Only guidelines.

 

[Plinco]

Hi All, I am new to the forum and honestly this forum has helped me a lot in terms of my game and learn a lot about myself and relationships. As a way of giving back, I came up with a few rules to help me move forward, and also learn from my relationships. I do not expect everyone to agree with me, and I expect to get some feedback. If you think they need to be improved please let me know. The grammar may suck and also I may have repeated myself a few times.

Rules

1. Never ever mention your opinion in the crowd because they will label you, and then they will make fun of you after. Just go with the crowd and always pretend you are with them. Keep your opinions to yourself and around your chick. By crowd I mean your friends and her friends.
   
   
2. Never have any personal discussions about your values, religious preference, and always ask her about her values and spiritual/religious points of view, and then just agree with her version, and say that is cool. This way she will think that you are on the same page. There is no need for her to know you. Less is more. Never talk about things, just do what you want - unless you are plan on marrying her.
   
   
3. Never discuss the price of anything, or whether you can afford it or not. Never mention anything about price, always mention that you are busy or there is something else planned if she wants to do something expensive and you really can't afford it. Even if it is expensive, play it off like its not anything.
   
   
4. Always have a plan even if your plan is ****. Always have something to say you want to do, even if it is a ****ty plan. Because that way you come off as decisive and assertive. If they suggest another plan you can go with if you think your plan sucks. However, never ask a girl what she wants to do. Always do what you want. If she complains that you never ask her what to do, just tell her, oh okay, I am fine with it if you are. This way a girl knows you know where you are going.
   
   
5. Try to avoid text messaging and engaging with her a lot throughout the day. The longer you do that and the longer you chat with her, there is a chance that she may stop engaging or stop listening, and then you may say something stupid or something offensive , or reveal something that you should not have which could turn her off. This way, less is more, and the less you talk the more you she will realize that there is something missing in her life, which is YOU.
   
   
6. Try to avoid making fun of her directly and try to avoid self-depreciating humor. It is also important not to make fun of her, but to make sarcastic remarks about things but not about her, you need to make sure to NEVER ever body shame a girl, never ever make fun of her family/parents, and never ever put down her job or what she does. Teasing could be limited to pushing and pulling, but not to the extent that it can be offensive.
   
   
7. Never ever tell girl to do something to improve herself, the reason is because there is a high chance, she is aware of it herself, but is ashamed of it, but you do not want to be the person who lets her know, because she may get offended.
   
   
8. Never ever try to make opinions about everything. Never say this restaurant sucks, or what you are wearing sucks, just do not go or do not make a comment. Never say this person is that or that. Keep your opinion to yourself. If you do not like somebody or one of her friends, do not tell her, just keep it to yourself. Keep your mouth shut. Her friends are everything for her, they are the ones that she has had in her life, and she talks to when you are not around. So never ever disrespect a girl’s friends or relatives or family or anyone else that she introduces you to. If you do not like them, keep your mouth shut.
   
   
9. When you do not have anything nice to say, then do not say anything. Period. Say nothing is much more valuable then say something.
   
   
10. Do not see them more than 1 or 2 times per week. Never ever try to plan things in advance, always try to plan things on the day of, that it will keep it fresh.
    
    
11. Let them move the relationship forward, but do not get lazy in the relationship. By lazy we mean that do not let them think that you have no control. You still tell them where you want to go, you still tell them what you want to do, and if they disagree you can do what they want. Never ever fight over where to go, never ever fight about what to do, it will not work in your favor.
    
    
12. Never judge a girl about her drinking, smoking or anything, because that way she will say you are not compatible, and that you are superficial and if you do not like her you can move on. Never ever tell a girl that she should not smoke, drink, or do anything, because it is none of your business, and it is not of your concern, if you do not like then just leave her, you cannot tell to people change, there is no point, and she already knows what her ****ing problems are, so she does not someone else to remind her.
    
    
13. Never ever tell girl that she should change to be with you, or she should refrain from doing something, because that will have two potential outcomes. The first outcome, she will think that you care a lot and that way you want to super serious with her. The second outcome is that she will tell you to leave if you do not like it. It is always best to remain neutral, and let her vices be her vices, and if it gets to the point that you cannot handle it any longer, then tell her that you want to end the relationship, but never ever tell them why you want the relationship to end.
    
    
14. Never ever tell a girl why you want to end the relationship, because that way you will give them closure, and that way they will start saying they will change. Never ever make a girl feel like that she was not enough for you and that is why you are ending the relationship. This way you will always remain friends and ****ing could always remain an option.

Something you, and a lot of the newbies (and older posters too) are missing is that respect is more important than sex. Throw out every 'rule' you have that compromises your sense of respect for yourself and your happiness for the sake of getting laid.

 

[startstrongtoday22]

Something you, and a lot of the newbies (and older posters too) are missing is that respect is more important than sex. Throw out every 'rule' you have that compromises your sense of respect for yourself and your happiness for the sake of getting laid.

Not sure why you are calling a Newbie? You know nothing about me. You just talked about respect and then just disrespected me.

I totally agree with you. Respect is King. It's not even a rule. It's what matters in any interaction. without respect, nothing else matters.

 

[startstrongtoday22]

The first rule is that there are no rules. Only guidelines.

I agree with you, I changed the title.

 

[BadWatermelon]

So basically "don't offend her." It's like walking through a minefield.

 

[Murk]

Is this a joke? I literally do the opposite of most of these things I couldn't even get half way through your subservient "life in china" list

I prefer to be bold, be exactly who I am, and speak on every opinion I have offensive or otherwise (while reading the room and towing the line in a savvy calculated manner). Yes sometimes people don't like it, but it's my life, my frame, they can fvck off at any time. I sleep good at night.

If I'm honest this is a pathetic list to write in your 30s. 20s maybe, after that if you believe in this list there's little hope for you.

It's like a guide on being a wallflower, a half-man who stands for nothing, hoping to keep a sniff of pvssy around, hoping they blend into the grey wallpaper behind them. It's the beta bible. We are not all born to lead or be alpha but don't preach this inferiority, scared, frightened nonsense either. Just be average in silence.

 

[adanricci]

1. Nobody makes fun of me in front of me, and my opinions are fact.
2. Hmm no
3. what
4. agreed
5. agreed
6. agreed
7. Not tell, but guide. I go to the gym in a structured way; she goes to the gym because I created structure for her around it
8. agreed
9. yup
10. Hard to do this when you're an adult with a schedule. I have to plan stuff at least 1 week ahead. I keep the date fixed but the activity flexible/surprise
11. yup
12. Disagree. Many smokers want to quit, most drinkers feel bad about it. Guide, don't tell. Smoking is a low IQ activity; so it could mean other things too.
13. of course you tell them to change. Women can't behave and need you to bring in a strong frame. If she's really into you, she will be even more into you. If she senses the frame is weak she will go look for a stronger frame.
14. Be clear and super direct. Be the reason she avoids your zodiac sign altogether.

 

[StacksHitEmUp]

Is this a joke? I literally do the opposite of most of these things I couldn't even get half way through your subservient "life in china" list

I prefer to be bold, be exactly who I am, and speak on every opinion I have offensive or otherwise (while reading the room and towing the line in a savvy calculated manner). Yes sometimes people don't like it, but it's my life, my frame, they can fvck off at any time. I sleep good at night.

If I'm honest this is a pathetic list to write in your 30s. 20s maybe, after that if you believe in this list there's little hope for you.

It's like a guide on being a wallflower, a half-man who stands for nothing, hoping to keep a sniff of pvssy around, hoping they blend into the grey wallpaper behind them. It's the beta bible. We are not all born to lead or be alpha but don't preach this inferiority, scared, frightened nonsense either. Just be average in silence.

Exactly, halfway through his post I genuinely thought he was actually trying to be funny or something. Bro made a post on how not to have a backbone and basically be a ***** whos too afraid to offend anyone.

 

[kavi]

I think it more about aloofness than subservience. Not giving a **** can come across as not having a backbone but that is a superficial similarity.

But it would be difficult to live by those rules or guidelines for the average guy in an average monogamous relationship.

Its cool to dismiss the fact that her friends and family are trash and she likes to get drunk too often but obvoulsly if you are doing ltr or marriage you cant be aloof about it for ever.

 

[startstrongtoday22]

Is this a joke? I literally do the opposite of most of these things I couldn't even get half way through your subservient "life in china" list

I prefer to be bold, be exactly who I am, and speak on every opinion I have offensive or otherwise (while reading the room and towing the line in a savvy calculated manner). Yes sometimes people don't like it, but it's my life, my frame, they can fvck off at any time. I sleep good at night.

If I'm honest this is a pathetic list to write in your 30s. 20s maybe, after that if you believe in this list there's little hope for you.

It's like a guide on being a wallflower, a half-man who stands for nothing, hoping to keep a sniff of pvssy around, hoping they blend into the grey wallpaper behind them. It's the beta bible. We are not all born to lead or be alpha but don't preach this inferiority, scared, frightened nonsense either. Just be average in silence.

I should have been more explicit. These guidelines are for just getting laid and not deal with LTR and all that bs. It's not for monogamous relationships, but rather to have a few girls at the same time. It's for someone to just to be able to mirror the girl and get in and have a good time. Obviously, if you want to have LTR with her, none of these guidelines will work.