AcesDJD
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Interesting Reading....
I'm probably a good deal older than most of you guys (25) now that I'm happily engaged it was fun reminiscing about trying to figure out the best way to get the most women.
Currently I am 5'8 and 150 pounds, although I started college a ripped 130-135 and left at 175 (mostly muscle gain although my bodyfat was a bit higher for sure).
I wasted an awful lot of time in the gym that I could have spent doing a lot of more fun and long lasting things. Certainly it was better than spending all my time huffing stuff to get high all the time like some people did, but I'd probably be in a lot higher paying job today if I spent more time at the library and less in the gym.
So what did a roughly forty pound muscle gain do for my abilities with women? In all honesty, not a damn thing. For one thing I don't know about you larger frame guys talking about how us small framed guys don't need to gain that much muscle to look bigger. Maybe I'm just unusual, but for me I look lighter at 175 than an average guy does at my height at 160. I do tend to put weight on very proportionally (except for perpetually scrawy forearms) so perhaps I'm an unusual case, but I doubt it.
To give you an example of what I mean, I was having a conversation with a girl one day, and for whatever reason the topic of weight came up. She asked me how much I weighed and even though I was actually a few pounds heavier for the sake of simplicity I said 160. She said "116?!" damn you are skinny! Her reaction when I clarified that I was actually 160 not 116 seemed to indicate to me that she highly doubted that I weighed that much, and probably assumed I was lying out of embarrassment of my actual weight.
In relation to some subjects that have come up, my point about my own weight is twofold: 1. If you're small framed you may still look small even if you get to be a respectable weight for your height and 2. Don't expect what a lot of posters seem to claim that the world will suddenly turn for you even with a forty pound gain, they might just think you're less skinny now, and being short is always a negative whatever your muscularity.
As far as getting girls goes, I DO think looks are very important. I've dated enough girls, seen enough friends go out with girls to understand this is the case. A good looking guy without personality will at least initially far outrace an average looking guy with personality. Now, I'm not talking marriage here I'm talking getting a one night stand which is what many of you are probably after. Confidence will do wonders for the good looking guy who was once too shy to approach women, but for an ugly guy it will mostly lead to more rejections (although eventual success due to the law of probability).
And no, working out will do very little for an ugly guy as far as getting girls goes. My roomate was 6'2 and 220 and went to the gym 5 days a week and as far as I know never got laid once. He wasn't fat by any means either, the dude could bench over three hundred. He wasn't an ugly guy, he just had very little confidence with women and probably tried to befriend them too much instead of pursue them.
If you're so thin virtually anyone you meet comments on it, then yeah putting on some weight will probably help you in the girls department. But if you're just an average skinny guy, yeah it might put you over the top for a few girls, but overall it won't be huge difference unless (maybe) you start juicing and get an incredibly low bodyfat percentage along with a huge gain in mass. I don't think even this would do much for an ugly guy, but for an average looking guy who's 5'10 or better and goes from say like 130 to 180 and is even more ripped after the weight gain than before than maybe they will notice a significant difference, but from what I've seen its the exception not the rule.
I have to add one more thing which is women's weight. Most of you guys are absolutely clueless about what women really weigh based on your posts. Most girls I've dated have been pretty comfortable being honest about their weight so I have a pretty good idea. A mature young woman about 5'6 and 130 almost always looks very slim, enough to the point people comment on it all the time (and usually have almost no chest I might add). Less than that and she has zero curves. A girl about 5'6 150 generally looks the best (she'll have a flat stomach unless she only sits around all day, but with decent tits and nice thighs and calves). Even a girl 5'6 and 170 rarely looks like a tub of lard unless she has virtually no muscle mass. So if you weigh 130 and only want girls lighter than you, you better like either really short and petite girls or really scrawny ones.
Good luck to all,
David
I'm probably a good deal older than most of you guys (25) now that I'm happily engaged it was fun reminiscing about trying to figure out the best way to get the most women.
Currently I am 5'8 and 150 pounds, although I started college a ripped 130-135 and left at 175 (mostly muscle gain although my bodyfat was a bit higher for sure).
I wasted an awful lot of time in the gym that I could have spent doing a lot of more fun and long lasting things. Certainly it was better than spending all my time huffing stuff to get high all the time like some people did, but I'd probably be in a lot higher paying job today if I spent more time at the library and less in the gym.
So what did a roughly forty pound muscle gain do for my abilities with women? In all honesty, not a damn thing. For one thing I don't know about you larger frame guys talking about how us small framed guys don't need to gain that much muscle to look bigger. Maybe I'm just unusual, but for me I look lighter at 175 than an average guy does at my height at 160. I do tend to put weight on very proportionally (except for perpetually scrawy forearms) so perhaps I'm an unusual case, but I doubt it.
To give you an example of what I mean, I was having a conversation with a girl one day, and for whatever reason the topic of weight came up. She asked me how much I weighed and even though I was actually a few pounds heavier for the sake of simplicity I said 160. She said "116?!" damn you are skinny! Her reaction when I clarified that I was actually 160 not 116 seemed to indicate to me that she highly doubted that I weighed that much, and probably assumed I was lying out of embarrassment of my actual weight.
In relation to some subjects that have come up, my point about my own weight is twofold: 1. If you're small framed you may still look small even if you get to be a respectable weight for your height and 2. Don't expect what a lot of posters seem to claim that the world will suddenly turn for you even with a forty pound gain, they might just think you're less skinny now, and being short is always a negative whatever your muscularity.
As far as getting girls goes, I DO think looks are very important. I've dated enough girls, seen enough friends go out with girls to understand this is the case. A good looking guy without personality will at least initially far outrace an average looking guy with personality. Now, I'm not talking marriage here I'm talking getting a one night stand which is what many of you are probably after. Confidence will do wonders for the good looking guy who was once too shy to approach women, but for an ugly guy it will mostly lead to more rejections (although eventual success due to the law of probability).
And no, working out will do very little for an ugly guy as far as getting girls goes. My roomate was 6'2 and 220 and went to the gym 5 days a week and as far as I know never got laid once. He wasn't fat by any means either, the dude could bench over three hundred. He wasn't an ugly guy, he just had very little confidence with women and probably tried to befriend them too much instead of pursue them.
If you're so thin virtually anyone you meet comments on it, then yeah putting on some weight will probably help you in the girls department. But if you're just an average skinny guy, yeah it might put you over the top for a few girls, but overall it won't be huge difference unless (maybe) you start juicing and get an incredibly low bodyfat percentage along with a huge gain in mass. I don't think even this would do much for an ugly guy, but for an average looking guy who's 5'10 or better and goes from say like 130 to 180 and is even more ripped after the weight gain than before than maybe they will notice a significant difference, but from what I've seen its the exception not the rule.
I have to add one more thing which is women's weight. Most of you guys are absolutely clueless about what women really weigh based on your posts. Most girls I've dated have been pretty comfortable being honest about their weight so I have a pretty good idea. A mature young woman about 5'6 and 130 almost always looks very slim, enough to the point people comment on it all the time (and usually have almost no chest I might add). Less than that and she has zero curves. A girl about 5'6 150 generally looks the best (she'll have a flat stomach unless she only sits around all day, but with decent tits and nice thighs and calves). Even a girl 5'6 and 170 rarely looks like a tub of lard unless she has virtually no muscle mass. So if you weigh 130 and only want girls lighter than you, you better like either really short and petite girls or really scrawny ones.
Good luck to all,
David
