Guess i just have to go with it

[SW15]

I discovered Rollo's book and now this forum because he keeps mentioning it in the book. I haven't even finished reading it completely but I have to say that I consider it an absolutely masterpiece! I've been with countless women and I can confirm pretty much everything Rollo is writing in that book.

I'm glad you found "The Rational Male". It's a great book. I think a lot of men find this forum because Rollo mentions it in "The Rational Male". Although Rollo is doing more on video these days than with writing, he still promotes reading his books in much of his video content.

I think you are correct that 99.99% of 40 year old men are completely unattractive to young women, but NOT because of their age, but because they are blue-pilled, out of shape simps.

That's a good portion of it but not the entire story. There are even some red pill men who can't get women 10+ years younger when they are 35-44 years old. These are men who might be able to get some attractive 30+ women, but they aren't getting big age gaps. It does take some game for a 35-40 year old man to get a childless hottie who is 2-6 years younger.

I am 43 and what PUAs call a "natural".

I've never been blue pilled (for some reason I have not quite figured out) and I've wondered all my life what's wrong with all the other men.

Once I entered puberty all girls in the neighborhood wanted to be my girlfriend and all my life girls have been somewhat chasing me.

Good for you for being a natural. I wasn't that. I had to develop. My mom raised me as a classic beta nice guy. I learned in high school that being the beta nice guy doesn't work at all. There were also other factors working against me initially. I had some childhood relocations so I never had a strong social circle, requiring me to do approaches or use tech-based means to meet women. I also had a late growth spurt. I entered high school at a below average height and wasn't taller than most females until the beginning of junior year when I was 5'8" or 5'9". I topped off at 5'10" around the end of my junior year of high school. The first 2 years of high school were a complete waste for me based on height and a poor social circle. I at least had a chance by the last 2 years of high school with sufficient height but I was finding out that the classic beta nice guy upbringing wasn't helping me with girls in high school. I had to work on killing the nice guy through the latter part of high school and into college.

exactly 1 month after I turned 35 things went completely crazy and it hasn't slowed since. It's crazy. At work. At the gym. At the store. And I am talking about very attractive women half my age. And they seem to get more attracted to me the older I get ... if I would write down things that happen to me in that regard you would absolutely not believe me.

That's so awesome. You might have some real good insight to add to this forum.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Fvck love. You made a commitment and you have two children. Appreciate what you have. The grass is certainly not greener.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Well, marriage was not looked at as a union of two people who give each other fuzzy wuzzies everyday for much of history.

This. I don’t know where people get this lovey dovey passion Disney stuff from. Marriage is a union and commitment above all else.

 

[MAB]

That's so awesome. You might have some real good insight to add to this forum.

I think my main natural "game" is that I've never actively tried to get laid. But not because I am lazy but because I think women are irrelevant and my energy and attention is better focused elsewhere.

I am also a HUGE proponent of NoFap. I masturbate like once a year.

 

[SW15]

I am also a HUGE proponent of NoFap.

I am also a HUGE proponent of NoFap and no porn. It's a lifestyle practice I've been doing for nearly a decade. It's one of the best things that someone can do for Game. It goes well alongside other good Game practices like getting regular exercise (I recommend a combination of weight training and some cardio), not eating processed foods, and regularly approaching women in-person.

NoFap alone isn't going to make someone a master seducer but it will help motivate someone to make some in-person approaches. There's much more to being good at Game than just doing NoFap.

NoFap definitely helps with mindset and the original poster has to do some work with mindset and his inner game.

 

[MAB]

(...) and regularly approaching women in-person.

(...) but it will help motivate someone to make some in-person approaches. (...)

I am not sure what that means. It sounds like PUA stuff.

This is were my advice comes to it's limits because, as I wrote, I am what they call a "natural". I've never done conscious PUA. Women have always approached me, I never approached them.

I'm just genuinely myself - the thing all PUAs tell you NOT to do.

I've never had the thought to leave the house to consciously approach women to do this PUA stuff on them.

So I am not sure that I could teach this to anyone, I can only tell you that I know for a fact that I am the price. I am one in a million and having sex with me is like winning the lottery for any woman. If they wanna be in my presence they better pay me for it or at the very least give me reason to not leave.

 

[SW15]

I'm just genuinely myself - the thing all PUAs tell you NOT to do.

This is were my advice comes to it's limits because, as I wrote, I am what they call a "natural"

I've never done conscious PUA. Women have always approached me, I never approached them.

'Just Be Yourself' doesn't work for most men but it can work for a small percentage of men who are 'naturals' at Game/seduction.

You getting approached by women is really good. Most men can't claim that.

I've never had the thought to leave the house to consciously approach women to do this PUA stuff on them.

Most men don't have a day-to-day routine that puts them in enough contact with women. To solve for this, most men end up using swipe apps or sending DMs on social media. Some men will go out into the real world and actively approach. Until about 15 years ago, men with subpar day-to-day routines would compensate by doing approach sessions but now tech-based interactions (swipe apps & social media) have replaced a lot of in-person approaches.

 

[MAB]

'Just Be Yourself' doesn't work for most men

I know. That's because the way they really are is atrocious. In my opinion they should genuinely change themselves and then they can just be who they are.

You getting approached by women is really good. Most men can't claim that.

It's flattering and also very educational. The risk is to fall for it and then get roped into a bad situation.

You see, women approach men they are genuinely interested in to manipulate them. They use their sexual performance and submission to get the man used to it so they can then slowly withdraw it at a later point to control him. If you let that happen they will immediately lose interest.

But from my experience their infatuation with me eventually fades anyway. Unless I dump them before that and then they keep stalking me.

Either way, the only purpose of women is temporary amusement. Hence the saying "she's never yours, it's just your turn."

Most men don't have a day-to-day routine that puts them in enough contact with women.

I do. LOL! Not gonna doxx myself here but it's literally my job to talk to young attractive women all day. I am glad when I don't have to see these bitches for a few weeks.

To solve for this, most men end up using swipe apps or sending DMs on social media. Some men will go out into the real world and actively approach. Until about 15 years ago, men with subpar day-to-day routines would compensate by doing approach sessions but now tech-based interactions (swipe apps & social media) have replaced a lot of in-person approaches.

I know what Tinder is ...
For the love of god never use that ****!

Just get a job where you interact with people and enjoy the interaction. Never "approach" women with the intent of seducing them. It's simping, it's pathetic and they will be able to see through that. You guys are reversing the entire power dynamic ... a high value man is worth infinitely more than any woman. She has to make the effort to approach you. Always!

If they are not approaching you that just means that they don't perceive you as charismatic, intelligent, attractive and desirable enough. The truth is that they are correct and you need to work on yourself.