Grow Some Ball$

[Lost In Translation]

thefonz
Question for you Lost: Could you explain the difference between dominating a girl and controlling a girl? If possible, provide examples

i will copy and paste my example that i already posted and re-word some of it

you cannot 6 months into the relationship switch, start acting like a man and expect her to accept the change. you gotta act like a man from the start. let her " know her role " from the beginning so she accept your LEAD. and also to qualify if she will accept your lead ( some polluted feminist brainwshed h0s won't accept a mans lead no matter what )

example DOMINANT MALE / ALPHA MALE :

you been with Jen for 4 years or maybe even married to her.

she wants to go to a girls night out


DO I LET HER GO ?

yes thats right she comes and tells me she has been invited to a GNO and asks if it would be ok if she goes ?

**THIS HAPPENED TO ME IN A LTR**

my response

NO

if you friends want to go to the movies YES

if your friends want to go bowling YES

if you friends want to go mutha f*c*ing go-kart racing ! YES


but if your friends want you to go slut around drunk at the night clubs with them the answer is NO

she looked at me. he hand on my arm as she was asking me lol.

i said i want you to hang out with your friends MORE

go shopping with them. whatever BUT NO up in the clubs


now this may sound surreal but my woman at the time who was under my love and protection ACCEPTED MY ANSWER and said ok and was cool about it.
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CONTROL FREAK :

your friends Jen are slut$ !

if you friends want to go to the movies NO

if your friends want to go bowling NO

if you friends want to go mutha f*c*ing go-kart racing ! NO

stay away from your friends !
*************

ok there is so much more to being able to lead a woman and have her accept your lead. it's not just words. it's body language. it's everything.

have you ever watched a police officer closely. there is an aura about them. AUTHORITY.

they get taught how to project this. alot of times the person they are arresting could kill them. but this aura of authority gives them that edge. it makes alot of people SUBMIT to their authority and so they DOMINATE.

you must study this authority because that same power/aura is able to be reproduced. it is the power all woman sense of a REAL MAN who IS IN CHARGE. you project it. SHE SUBMITS ! she likes the feeling. SHE FEELS SAFE !


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[So Many Ways]

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[LJC]

Originally posted by Lost In Translation


no. you CAN'T make a h0 a housewife.

i have tried. 6 months she acts like a good girl. i do whatever it takes to train her into being a decent respectable women then 6 months later....

a noise that only animals can hear... she answers a distant call

and decides to get back into her old lifestyle

SHE WAS NEVER A GOOD GIRL TO BEGIN WITH !


Everyone changes after 6 months of dating. There is no mentality to prevent it. It's going to happen if you're an AFC or a super DJ. It's just the facts of life. So you put your foot down, she likes the manly gesture. You keep putting your foot down, she lives with it. And you keep putting your foot down, she grows tired of you always putting your foot down. It has an end. Everything has an end.



LJC someone can only go back to their ex so easy because it is their ex

they feel comfortable with them

What do ex's have to do with this? Or me?



a woman can leave the kitchen and the kids and hit the clubs because SHE IS RETURNING TO HER NATURAL DOMAIN. a wh0re who you did not correctly qualify will do this.


They all do this eventually. Period. Some people call it a mid-life crisis. Others call it self disscovery. Others call it correcting bad decisions in life. Some people call it a gift for hard work done. Whatever.



young buck this is your life ! they playing with your life and your fortune !

you think this is a f*c*ing game ?

LIFE OR DEATH ! LIVE OR DIE !

you gotta be serious. you be a joker and don't take a situation serious enough it can cost you BIGTIME.

First off, I'm no young buck. I'm older & been around the block a few times. Second, It is not life or death. It is not live or die. It's just some f*cking braud. When you fall in "love" and marry is when it becomes a big price tag issue. That game is for suckers.


yes i tell you she will never say another word. i know Ben. i know once he says to her thats the end of it that means the end of it.

haven't you ever TOLD someone how it was ? non negoitable ?

never made someone an offer they couldn't refuse ?

Sure. I call bluffs all of the time. It's not like I don't know what you're talking about here. And I'm telling you, there is not one woman that is going to take that sh*t forever. Not one. You can buy some time with the attitude, but they'll turn on you, me and your friend Ben eventually. I garun-f*ckin-tee it.


No DJ attitude settles BS permanently.


how wrong you are ! a DJ does not allow himself to be in relationship with abusive wh0res. a DJ does not tolerate disrespect.

you are having all these dramas with women because you are dating the wrong type of women !

I have no drama. Where do you get the idea I have drama with women? They f*ck up, I cut them loose. That's it. Wrong type of women? I date all types.

Nothing wrong with having some balls. I agree with that. But this all sounds more like "how to be a feared pimp" than how to be a respected man.

Control is not respect. Respect is the fear of consequences. I'll let my woman hit the clubs with her friends if she wants to. I'm not insecure about it in the least bit, because she knows these primal woman urges better lead to a new place to live, new friends and a new reputation real f*ckin fast like. In other words, that motherf*cker better be a real prince.

 

[djbr]

I'm trying to find where LIT said anything about control or anything of that sort. Maybe I misunderstood his post?

From what I've read, he is just pointing out that your judgement is the number one priority when dealing with anything. All of what he said later comes out as an example. His friend used CONTROL over the chick. Why, it's his choice, and fine fine. Control is not always about manipulation, it can be different. Saying what are your rules up front is NOT manipulation. You can say it's control, but you're not forcing anyone to do anything. She still could send his ass to hell. But oh, respect comes into play. Guys that do what they want turns women on, don't they?

Classic, classic, classic lines such as "you're insecure! let her go to that crowded concert with a hell lot dycks flying around her like a fvcking world war II scenario!!" are delivered all the time by people who try to tell us WHAT TO DO. And when we go trip that route we know what happens. ZERO, ZILCH RESPECT FROM EVERYONE. And you wonder why your girl want some "night out with her girlfriends at a crowded flying-dycks club?..."

We should do what we want to, right or wrong. My life is mine, and I'm the one who will experience pain/frustration or joy/happiness if I mess things up/do things my way.

Well, pick your choose!

(and oh, dude, no flame war ok? we're discussing IDEAS here. Let's LEARN together, it's SO more productive )

 

[LJC]

"She still could send his ass to hell. But oh, respect comes into play. "

Sure it does. What I'm saying here is that it doesn't always remain as respect. Eventually that respect turns to something else.

Flame war? Why, I'm just a guy calling it like I see it. Now it's something else?

See what I mean?

 

[djbr]

Originally posted by LJC
"She still could send his ass to hell. But oh, respect comes into play. "

Sure it does. What I'm saying here is that it doesn't always remain as respect. Eventually that respect turns to something else.

Maybe yes. Maybe not. But the point is still the same: you do whatever YOU want. If respect turns to something else, you act accordingly. From my experience it usually doesn't, unless you man down somewhere else.

Originally posted by LJC
Flame war? Why, I'm just a guy calling it like I see it. Now it's something else?
See what I mean?

Sure I do. It's a normal procedure for me, hehe. Some people here are prone to attack people for nothing.

Glad to see you understand what we're doing here.

 

[penguin]

I differ in my opinion of this. If a girlfriend of mine said "I would like to get gang banged by 3 other guys, is that ok?" I'd say "yeah, that's fine". And yes, I am serious, that would be my answer.

Guess who would then have no boyfriend any more. Yep, her. Women can make their own decisions, and I won't influence that. However, the incorrect decisions will result in certain consequences (i.e. me leaving).

I don't have the patience and/or energy to make a woman's decisions for her. I make mine, and mine only. It's not my problem if a woman makes a decision that results in me leaving her. A woman being loyal is not my responsibility, it's hers. And if she is not loyal, so be it. This method will prove it one way or another.

 

[BrotherAP]

Well, yah, sometimes you just let 'em go... but sometimes not. What if your girl, a decent woman, gets invited by her friends to go out to the club. They tell her "C'mon, it's just harmless fun! (downplay it) You never come with us anymore! (guilt trip)" Your girl isn't sure if she should or not. It seems to her that a club is a bit inappropriate, but she's never really gone to many clubs (because your with a woman, not a hor, right?). She asks you.

You can overreact and say "Sure! Go to the club" and have her stuff waiting on the porch. Or you can simply tell her "Why would you go to the club? So some drunk ******* can grind his raging boner on you? There's a lot of things you can do with your friends that wont end up with another man's hands all over you. Why don't you guys go shopping together or something?"

See, you avoid having to dump her for a stupid reason, you showed her who the man was, and you kept it positive the at the same time. It's not a fight - because you wear the pants, and you made a decision.

 

[djbr]

Originally posted by penguin
I differ in my opinion of this. If a girlfriend of mine said "I would like to get gang banged by 3 other guys, is that ok?" I'd say "yeah, that's fine". And yes, I am serious, that would be my answer.

Guess who would then have no boyfriend any more. Yep, her. Women can make their own decisions, and I won't influence that. However, the incorrect decisions will result in certain consequences (i.e. me leaving).

I don't have the patience and/or energy to make a woman's decisions for her. I make mine, and mine only. It's not my problem if a woman makes a decision that results in me leaving her. A woman being loyal is not my responsibility, it's hers. And if she is not loyal, so be it. This method will prove it one way or another.

Great point!

 

[Lost In Translation]

LJC
Everyone changes after 6 months of dating. There is no mentality to prevent it. It's going to happen if you're an AFC or a super DJ. It's just the facts of life.

i chose the number six while typing for the EXAMPLE

i could have pressed 5 or maybe 4 on my keyboard

but i sense you would have simply wrote the same ignorant crap and adjusted the number to 5 or 4 accordingly

doesn't matter if you are a DJ or an AFC ?

just the facts of life...

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP !

no matter what i say LJC you are going to come up with well thats just how it is, you can't change it, we are all the same

i am not going to even bothering flaming you because i think everyone else gets it

you know what that means LJC ? YOU yes YOU are the odd one out

where is your fire ? where is your drive and passion for life ?

a woman wants a man to lead her !

are you scared to lead ? can you make a decision ?

being mediocre is not acceptable. anyone who preaches these gospel of being mediocre and just fitting in and not rocking the boat is a brainwashed zombie. life is just like that.... ???

F*C* THAT ! i bend the world ! i control my destiny through the choices i make !

any woman that wants to be part of my life must FIT IN with MY reality

fire and drive attract a woman !

I AM ALIVE !

a woman should feel a pulse in a man !

because of societies programming we get so caught up in being mediocre and fitting in we lose our passion for the things we love

if you have a passion for cars BE. DO chicks will see the PASSION inside you and be attracted to it.

you are putting yourself first. WOMEN are attracted to that !

because you are a MAN !


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[Lost In Translation]

penguin
I don't have the patience and/or energy to make a woman's decisions for her. I make mine, and mine only. It's not my problem if a woman makes a decision that results in me leaving her. A woman being loyal is not my responsibility, it's hers. And if she is not loyal, so be it. This method will prove it one way or another.

obviosly in your example you would boot her out the door instantly

i am talking about being a man and LEADING a woman

as a MAN it is your job. YOU must lead the tribe penguin

you have 3 kids and your wife says penguin honey we going to KFC or McDonalds ? the 3 kids chime in and say one KFC one McDonalds and one Pizza Hut

YOU ARE THE MAN ! YOU CALL THE SHOTS !

guess what kids ! WE ARE GOING TO KFC !

why ?

BECAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO !


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[Lost In Translation]

BrotherAP
Well, yah, sometimes you just let 'em go... but sometimes not. What if your girl, a decent woman, gets invited by her friends to go out to the club. They tell her "C'mon, it's just harmless fun! (downplay it) You never come with us anymore! (guilt trip)" Your girl isn't sure if she should or not. It seems to her that a club is a bit inappropriate, but she's never really gone to many clubs (because your with a woman, not a hor, right?). She asks you.

You can overreact and say "Sure! Go to the club" and have her stuff waiting on the porch. Or you can simply tell her "Why would you go to the club? So some drunk ******* can grind his raging boner on you? There's a lot of things you can do with your friends that wont end up with another man's hands all over you. Why don't you guys go shopping together or something?"

See, you avoid having to dump her for a stupid reason, you showed her who the man was, and you kept it positive the at the same time. It's not a fight - because you wear the pants, and you made a decision.

great post ! i have trouble explaining stuff into words and as a result my posts tend to be alittle long.

BrotherAP
It's not a fight - because you wear the pants, and you made a decision

yes and where alot of the people on this forum with trouble in their long term relationships are going wrong is

50 / 50

THAT IS FEMINIST BULL$HIT RIGHT THERE !!!

50 / 50 is a stalemate

in buiness in a corporate takeover worse case it will be 49 / 51

someone is the boss has the final decision !

there must be a leader or you will go around in circles

women want to be lead. don't go into a relationship with 50 / 50

70 / 30 i value her opinion in a LTR but at the end of the day I CALL THE SHOTS

GROW SOME BALL$ ! BE A MAN AND LEAD !


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[LJC]

i chose the number six while typing for the EXAMPLE

i could have pressed 5 or maybe 4 on my keyboard

but i sense you would have simply wrote the same ignorant crap and adjusted the number to 5 or 4 accordingly

Ignorant crap, is it? So, you're telling me people don't change in a relationship after months of being together?
If that's what you're saying, then say it. Be the man you speak of.


doesn't matter if you are a DJ or an AFC ?

just the facts of life...

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP !

People reaccess their situations, especially women. This is not a load of crap. It is the truth.


no matter what i say LJC you are going to come up with well thats just how it is, you can't change it, we are all the same

And no matter what I say, you're going to continue on with your effort for a spot in the bible. Good luck with that.


i am not going to even bothering flaming you because i think everyone else gets it

you know what that means LJC ? YOU yes YOU are the odd one out

You think you're the first one to come in here and tell people they need a set of nuts? Most people got it long before you got here.

I'm trying to inject the uncertainty of the dynmaics in human nature, women in particular, to expand on the textbook BS being read thread after thread after thread of guys preaching "thou shall have balls". If that makes me the odd one out, Great!
Thank you very much!



where is your fire ? where is your drive and passion for life ?

a woman wants a man to lead her !

are you scared to lead ? can you make a decision ?

I'm not a chump. I don't need the lesson. I learned about it right here years ago. And since then, I've
expanded on it. Women are indeed attracted to manliness....but there is a point this ever growing manliness
must break down other admirable features women often find desireable. You just don't get the balance.
You're talking like a wanton wreck. You're like the guy who bets and raises every poker hand no matter what he's got.




being mediocre is not acceptable. anyone who preaches these gospel of being mediocre and just fitting in and not rocking the boat is a brainwashed zombie. life is just like that.... ???


Who said be mediocre? Who said just fit in? I never said any of that. Why are you talking to me like I'm some chump who thinks
you should bring her flowers, write her poems and kiss her ass? There are many ways not to put up with BS from a woman.
Ever watch Jerry Springer? Lot of guys on there say "HELL NO!" to the b*tches too. Losers. Every one of them. Women may abide
just because you're showing a dominat trait, for a while, but they grow use to it. Eventually they expect MORE. They want a little MORE
than before. They like the man thing, but they want this now, and that now. You can't make all the right decisions. You're a man.
You're going to be wrong eventually, and she won't admire you for it. No big deal of course, because you'll just move on. But the bottom
line is that according to your philosophy here, there is no woman on the planet that will qualify with you in the long run, because you're
"alive", have a "pulse", like to let the wind blow through your nuts...whatever.



F*C* THAT ! i bend the world ! i control my destiny through the choices i make !

any woman that wants to be part of my life must FIT IN with MY reality

fire and drive attract a woman !

I AM ALIVE !

a woman should feel a pulse in a man !

because of societies programming we get so caught up in being mediocre and fitting in we lose our passion for the things we love

if you have a passion for cars BE. DO chicks will see the PASSION inside you and be attracted to it.

you are putting yourself first. WOMEN are attracted to that !

because you are a MAN !

Yeah...nothing wrong with being a proud and decisive person. I suppose you think I frown upon this too?
I've got to go...I've got to finish writing this 6 page love poem.... hey, what rhymes with sunset???

 

[Ouzo]

Good post again by lost.

But loving the post from M0M.

Good thoughts.

 

[Lost In Translation]

LOL i am glad to see you are not alseep at the wheel LJC

ofcourse people can change

i am not talking about that sort of change i am talking about RESPECT

if you start the relationship right and she respects you and you act like a man this doesn't change because she KNOWS you WILL NOT TOLERATE DISRESPECT BECAUSE YOU ARE A MAN

6 months in she changes THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG

1. she is a h0 and is getting back to her roots ( you should qualify her before a LTR )

or

2. YOU are changing and becoming an AFC which in turn changes HER BEHAVIOR

People reaccess their situations, especially women

yes LJC that is a fact. well duh !

but when she gives you that $hit test LJC and you pass the relationship dynamic STAYS THE SAME

it's when you fail these " reaccessments " that the relationship change from 70 / 30 to 50 / 50 then she must change too ! her behavior changes !

but the catalyst for this change IS THE MAN

if you stop being a man and start kissing her a$$ SHE WILL TURN ON YOU !

we live with the monsters we create !

And no matter what I say, you're going to continue on with your effort for a spot in the bible. Good luck with that.

LMAO dude i got no chance of being in the bible ever.

way too much swearing , calling women h0 / wh0re / b*tch

and i double space everything !!!!

You think you're the first one to come in here and tell people they need a set of nuts? Most people got it long before you got here.

snap out of it. i am simply reminding people based on the ARTICLE that started BOTH threads here and on the mature mens forum.

the article we are discussing is at askmen.com

here is the link

http://askmen.com/dating/heidi_100/130_dating_girl.html

I'm not a chump. I don't need the lesson. I learned about it right here years ago. And since then, I've
expanded on it.

glad you know it. it's not all about you. theres people here that need to know it and haven't been around as long as you. also it all relates to the article on askmen.com once you read that this thread might make more sense to you.

You're talking like a wanton wreck. You're like the guy who bets and raises every poker hand no matter what he's got.

i got no idea what you are saying there. can you please give me another parable i might better understand.

Ever watch Jerry Springer?

No. is it good ?

Jerry Springer? Lot of guys on there say "HELL NO!" to the b*tches too. Losers. Every one of them. Women may abide
just because you're showing a dominat trait, for a while, but they grow use to it. Eventually they expect MORE. They want a little MORE
than before.

you look at Jerry Springer for Don Juan inspiration ?

Sean Connery as James Bond is much better

They like the man thing, but they want this now, and that now. You can't make all the right decisions. You're a man.
You're going to be wrong eventually, and she won't admire you for it. No big deal of course, because you'll just move on.

what is the sam hell is going on here ? how old are you ?

she won't admire me for it ?

But the bottom
line is that according to your philosophy here, there is no woman on the planet that will qualify with you in the long run, because you're
"alive", have a "pulse", like to let the wind blow through your nuts...whatever.

hahaha wind blow through my nuts ?

i give up on you LJC

Yeah...nothing wrong with being a proud and decisive person

ok you almost there LJC. nothing wrong with it ?

YOUNG MAN IT'S THE WAY A MAN SHOULD BE

NO OTHER WAY

no nothing wrong with it attitude

I've got to go...I've got to finish writing this 6 page love poem.... hey, what rhymes with sunset???

LOL maybe change it to setting sun and then we can have fun


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[TheRelic]

Haha... keep up the double spacing

A+ posts L.I.T, every damn one of em !!!

 

[comic_relief]

I've got to say good post. Although I don't know why it is here in DJ Discussion. This is one of those posts that I would never have found if wasn't board and took a look in DJ Discussion. Good post.

Originally posted by LJC
hey, what rhymes with sunset???

Bet or wet or debt works

 

[djbr]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
To me, a girl in a relationship has no place going to a club where she will get drunk and have game thrown at her by every single a$$hole looking for some easy pvssy to bang after last call.

Girls who say they only wanna go out and have fun with their girls, and people who preach all that "be secure in your girl" bullsh!t have no idea what goes on at clubs. I've hooked up at clubs with girls that had boyfriends at the time, and were just out "having fun with their girls". There's no way I'll ever allow myself to be one of those suckers who waits at home while his sweet girlfriend is drunk and giving a BJ to someone in the mens room. Nor will I ever allow myself to be the guy on the other end of the phoneline she calls up at the end of the night crying and saying she has a confession to make.

So if your girl is giving you a ho vibe, do yourself a favor and find a better girl.

A HUNDRED PERCENT FVCKIN' TRUE!!!!!

Why didn't I find the site at least 3 years ago? WHY??? Unfair god! Unfair!!!

It's just like snoop dogg say: you've GOT to control your ho!

But you're better off with no ho in the first place!! hehehe!

 

[LJC]

LOL i am glad to see you are not alseep at the wheel LJC

ofcourse people can change

It's not that people CAN change, it's that they DO change.



i am not talking about that sort of change i am talking about RESPECT

I know exactly what you're talking about.



if you start the relationship right and she respects you and you act like a man this doesn't change because she KNOWS you WILL NOT TOLERATE DISRESPECT BECAUSE YOU ARE A MAN

6 months in she changes THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG

Let's clear something up right here. You seem to think I disagree with being the man here; making decisions. I'm definately not. But you're not willing to see past that. I'm trying to explain something along the lines of "diminishing returns" in relationships. But you don't care. You keep feeding me the same line.





1. she is a h0 and is getting back to her roots ( you should qualify her before a LTR )

or

2. YOU are changing and becoming an AFC which in turn changes HER BEHAVIOR

And this is our problem here. You don't recognize other elements and probiblities. You make it cut and dry: she listens, or she's a ho getting back to her roots, nothing else. You're not a DJ, you're a pimp.


People reaccess their situations, especially women

yes LJC that is a fact. well duh !

And you called it crap. Make up your mind.



but when she gives you that $hit test LJC and you pass the relationship dynamic STAYS THE SAME

it's when you fail these " reaccessments " that the relationship change from 70 / 30 to 50 / 50 then she must change too ! her behavior changes !

This is bullsh*t. You can stand strong and firm every time and still "fail" the sh*t test.




but the catalyst for this change IS THE MAN

if you stop being a man and start kissing her a$$ SHE WILL TURN ON YOU !

we live with the monsters we create !

Wow. Really? I had no idea!




LMAO dude i got no chance of being in the bible ever.

Thank you, Mr. Obvious.


way too much swearing , calling women h0 / wh0re / b*tch

and i double space everything !!!!

Ha ha! Yes you're a crazy guy! Ha ha. That wacky double spacing!

it's not all about you. theres people here that need to know it and haven't been around as long as you. also it all relates to the article on askmen.com once you read that this thread might make more sense to you.


I've read all that. The problem is not my lack of understanding here.

You're talking like a wanton wreck. You're like the guy who bets and raises every poker hand no matter what he's got.

i got no idea what you are saying there. can you please give me another parable i might better understand.

All or nothing. Do you understand that? I'm sure you do. Sounds alpha and cool, but it's stupid in the long haul. You don't strike me as crafty and seductive, you strike me as stubborn and pimpish. Hey...if that's your thing...


Ever watch Jerry Springer?

No. is it good ?

Horrible.



you look at Jerry Springer for Don Juan inspiration ?

Yeah...I expected you to say that. Of course not. The point was that being the dominant take no BS male doesn't always rub off as impressive. There is more that needs to be understood to pull it off, and you're flaming every effort to reveal those other facets.


They like the man thing, but they want this now, and that now. You can't make all the right decisions. You're a man.
You're going to be wrong eventually, and she won't admire you for it. No big deal of course, because you'll just move on.

what is the sam hell is going on here ? how old are you ?

she won't admire me for it ?

Yes, take the cheap shot. That's fine. But let me ask you a question: What was your longest relationship and how did it end?





hahaha wind blow through my nuts ?

i give up on you LJC

Didn't need you to save me anyway....




ok you almost there LJC.

Really? Really?! Can I be your friend yet?

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[LJC]

Still wondering why some of the greatest posters of this forum are now banned (PuertoRican_Lover/Player_Supreme)

HA HAHA AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! PRL? This is a 40 something guy who canvasses college chicks and couldn't understand why they were avoiding him like the black plague.....bet you never read that FR, did ya? You must have missed the "I'm so lonely please talk to me threads" too.....

No wonder I'm the "odd man out" here.