Grocery store shooting, killed 2 women shopping for food.

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Danger said:
Again, you are only proving my point here Zekko. You know "one" guy like this. How many football players from high school went on to be the "hunky accountant"? In other words, what is the percentage yield of bad-boy to bad-boy/provisioner?
He's the only accountant I know, period. I'm not an accountant, but I make good money. I consider myself a good catch, not a "beta provider". I have no interest in hanging around with "bad boys", I'm a man, not a boy. My aspirations are to be the best I can be, not a "beta provider" or a "bad boy". Therefore, the PUA stereotypes are of very little use to me. I prefer not to attach labels to myself.

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if she spent the last 15 years making poor decisions in men and on the downside of her most attractive years while you are on the upswing in value.....is she really a good investment?
The chances of me having any interest in a women who has spent the last 15 years wh0ring around are virtually none.
 

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See...and there's your problem. People like you are acting like you have no control over the problem. How about arm yourself with a carry permit and learn to use a handgun?

Imagine if a state(or school district) would allow teachers to carry? I guarantee you these "mass shooters"(that arent really "mass") wont dare attempt anymore shootings at schools. They will go to a place where no one is armed as to not have their little "spree" stopped short by outside forces.

You fight fire with fire.......not by running and hoping for the best.
Are you nuts? Carrying more guns is not the answer to the problem. We will have more Zimmerman cases than ever before. Teachers arming themselves is ridiculous. They aren't trained to be using guns, because they could shoot innocent people instead. Having weapons in the classroom isn't the answer either. You gun people are crazy. :crazy:



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What do you suggest they do? Banning guns is worthless because as you can see from the mall shooting he used Bidens favorite gun, the shotgun.

The only way banning guns would have any effect is if they banned every single gun like the UK but that is not possible. Only thing you can do at this point is hope you are not in the same place when one of these guys go off.

With that said I don't know why Danger is in denial about an obvious problem here, he thinks we want to take his guns or something.

America is circling the drain folks.

It's not worthless because you ban the guns that can do the most damage. Guns that shouldn't be available. No, you can't ban all guns, and nobody is saying to do that. Nobody has ever advocated that. The majority of Americans want background checks and the banning of certain guns. Those guns have no use for the public to be using anyway. But you need to start with the most dangerous ones. When Clinton had the assault rifle ban, gun violence went down and nobody lost having their right to own arms.

There will never be any real gun legislation because of two reasons. The money that the gun manufactures make off the weapons and the stranglehold that the NRA has on the politicians. The NRA has the Republican Party and some Democrats in their back pocket. If they ever went against the gun lobby their political career would be over because they would get some extreme Tea Party nut to run against them. They are afraid and are only looking out for their own interest. Not only that, they have a hand in the money part of it as well as their campaigns are financed by them.

The problem all stems from the meaning of the 2nd Amendment. The definition is too broad and is not truly defined as what "The Right To Bear Arms" means. It should have been amended a long time ago before the gun makers got their foothold in making their killing machines while the NRA supports it to the end.
 

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rascal99v said:
Are you nuts? Carrying more guns is not the answer to the problem. We will have more Zimmerman cases than ever before. Teachers arming themselves is ridiculous. They aren't trained to be using guns, because they could shoot innocent people instead. Having weapons in the classroom isn't the answer either. You gun people are crazy. :crazy:
First off.....whats wrong with more "Zimmerman cases"? I have no problem using lethal force if you are being attacked. The court system has spoken....get over it pal.

And your comment about teachers being "untrained" and "shooting innocents" is moronic. If I was a teacher and these "mass shootings" happen in schools, I would want to be armed. If teachers want to carry a firearm...let them. They wont be untrained, its called go to the range, take a class, etc. Your dumb statement just tells me you dont even understand the mindset or the reason an individual would want to carry a gun. You dont force all teachers to carry....but if one wants to....you let them.
 

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Danger said:
Sooooo, wouldn't you say that by the time a woman has "matured" she has spent 15 years riding multiple c0cks?

CNN had an article the other day saying women in America have an average of 4 sexual partners during their lifetime. It wasn't a joke, they were serious.
 

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Danger said:
What they didn't mention was the fine print. Meaning by "sexual partner" they meant "long-term relationship that the world is aware about".


Hell, every younger girl who's partner count I have an idea of or who has told me......not one of them is below 10. And these are early 20 something girls I'm referring to.
They know it's a bunch of tripe, they will print anything that makes women look good. How about the truth CNN? You left out the 50 BJ's, one night stands, and gang bangs and short relationships.
 

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I have several friends who are "bad-boys", not in the sense that they are not making something of their lives, but in the sense that they don't pedestalize the pu$$y and are not boring.
That is my problem with the term. I see nothing "bad" in not pedestalizing the pvssy or in not being boring.

"Boring" is somewhat subjective. What I find exciting might bore you to tears, and vice versa. But regarding not pedestalizing, I don't see that as being such a special trait, because in the time and place when/where I grew up, we were pretty much raised not to pedestalize women. And if you did, peer pressure was there to discourage you and let you know about it. I suppose times are different now, from what I read around here.

Sooooo, wouldn't you say that by the time a woman has "matured" she has spent 15 years riding multiple c0cks?

Let's face it, a historically mature woman doesn't reach the age of 30 being single.
Well, that's true enough. 30 is kind of an arbitrary age though, a woman might mature, learn, or gain some wisdom before 30. Although I've read here repeatedly that women are incapable of maturing or learning wisdom. I think it is possible that some of them learn from their mistakes, however.

Another possibility is an older woman might spend a good deal of her life with one man - in a LTR, married or whatever. Then they split up, get divorced, or whatever. Maybe she got tired of him, became hypergamous, or he cheated on her or whatever. In that case, she's still been fvcked hundreds (thousands?) of times probably, but at least the sheer number of c0cks that have been inside her are less.
 

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First off.....whats wrong with more "Zimmerman cases"? I have no problem using lethal force if you are being attacked. The court system has spoken....get over it pal.

And your comment about teachers being "untrained" and "shooting innocents" is moronic. If I was a teacher and these "mass shootings" happen in schools, I would want to be armed. If teachers want to carry a firearm...let them. They wont be untrained, its called go to the range, take a class, etc. Your dumb statement just tells me you dont even understand the mindset or the reason an individual would want to carry a gun. You dont force all teachers to carry....but if one wants to....you let them.
Well, pal that law is being looked into and is in the process of being overturned. what's wrong with it? People are dying instead of just being In an alteration. My friend is a police officer and thinks your idea is idiotic. Even some candidates in the academy can't hit their targets. Even some actual officers can't either. Nobody is perfect unless you are a sharp shooter. And you expect a teacher to do that? :crazy:
 
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Even some candidates in the academy can't hit their targets. And you expect a teacher to do that? :crazy:
Sounds like they wont be in the academy for much longer.....

Its not some impossible task to be accurate with a firearm. Let me ask you this...have you ever shot a firearm rascal?
 

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There really needs to be like a documentary on guys in their 20's. Malice I agree with your post on the first page so much I went 3 years without a date and by the end of that 3 years, honestly I had some pretty ****ed up thoughts. I knew 6 months before the 3 years was up i was almost there and i still had some pretty ****ed up thoughts.

It's like.. really it's really really ****ed up for a guy if you think about it. the avg guy's social life can't really get cranked up until he's 30. what kinda **** is that lol? How the hell are you expected to be sane lol? You see guys dumber than you are, less ambition than you have, guys that are just luckier than you are to be born into better situations, going out and partying like rock stars, all girls complaining. My wife has a friend and she's always complaining about **** and she's like " yeah I did this and I'm so depressed and I don't know what to do.. I talked to my boyfriend about it..." and I'm like woman you don't know depression if you think you are depressed.


The more I Think about it, the more ****ed up this really is. Think about this

Okay college educated responsible guy. I'm going to put you in this job making 40k a year when you are 24 years old. You won't have a social life because you aren't in college anymore. You won't be able to get dates. You aren't a mack or a player or naturally good looking, you don't have game, so you sit around and entertain yourself and become anti social and depressed

you have to make it to 30 and

A. Not do drugs
B. Not kill anyone
C. Not kill yourself lol


All the while your female counterparts are enjoying life and starting families or partying.


If you can make it it to your 30's as a guy and not have baggage, you can do great. But **** man lol. If you are 30 years old or above and you made it to 30 without any of the above, you need to go take yourself out and party lol.
 

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It can be hard to be a young guy, for sure. Especially since the hormones are raging at that point. I went through a slump in my early 20s also. Some guys peak early, some guys peak later, some don't peak at all.

That's really the whole deal behind the evolutionary theory, alpha/beta stuff, though, isn't it? Some males don't get to mate.
 

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backbreaker said:
There really needs to be like a documentary on guys in their 20's. Malice I agree with your post on the first page so much I went 3 years without a date and by the end of that 3 years, honestly I had some pretty ****ed up thoughts. I knew 6 months before the 3 years was up i was almost there and i still had some pretty ****ed up thoughts.

It's like.. really it's really really ****ed up for a guy if you think about it. the avg guy's social life can't really get cranked up until he's 30. what kinda **** is that lol? How the hell are you expected to be sane lol? You see guys dumber than you are, less ambition than you have, guys that are just luckier than you are to be born into better situations, going out and partying like rock stars, all girls complaining. My wife has a friend and she's always complaining about **** and she's like " yeah I did this and I'm so depressed and I don't know what to do.. I talked to my boyfriend about it..." and I'm like woman you don't know depression if you think you are depressed.


The more I Think about it, the more ****ed up this really is. Think about this

Okay college educated responsible guy. I'm going to put you in this job making 40k a year when you are 24 years old. You won't have a social life because you aren't in college anymore. You won't be able to get dates. You aren't a mack or a player or naturally good looking, you don't have game, so you sit around and entertain yourself and become anti social and depressed

you have to make it to 30 and

A. Not do drugs
B. Not kill anyone
C. Not kill yourself lol


All the while your female counterparts are enjoying life and starting families or partying.


If you can make it it to your 30's as a guy and not have baggage, you can do great. But **** man lol. If you are 30 years old or above and you made it to 30 without any of the above, you need to go take yourself out and party lol.
The worst part of it was the complete misunderstanding of the game. For example I remember chatting with a woman online during those 3 years. She was interested enough to be chatting with me so we talked for a couple weeks. Then one day she mentioned she had a boyfriend and I flipped. I was like YOU HAVE A BOYFRIEND and I got all butthurt and that ended quickly.

Then another time a chic responded to me online and instead of writing back to her something smooth I got all excited and wrote a long paragraph response of just rambling and I never heard from her again.

Then another time I started chatting witch women in other countries and even talking to them on the phone with this stupid fantasy they would come to me one day. It was pathetic.

It's things like this that guys never learn not to do.
 

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backbreaker said:
There really needs to be like a documentary on guys in their 20's. Malice I agree with your post on the first page so much I went 3 years without a date and by the end of that 3 years, honestly I had some pretty ****ed up thoughts. I knew 6 months before the 3 years was up i was almost there and i still had some pretty ****ed up thoughts.

It's like.. really it's really really ****ed up for a guy if you think about it. the avg guy's social life can't really get cranked up until he's 30. what kinda **** is that lol? How the hell are you expected to be sane lol? You see guys dumber than you are, less ambition than you have, guys that are just luckier than you are to be born into better situations, going out and partying like rock stars, all girls complaining. My wife has a friend and she's always complaining about **** and she's like " yeah I did this and I'm so depressed and I don't know what to do.. I talked to my boyfriend about it..." and I'm like woman you don't know depression if you think you are depressed.


The more I Think about it, the more ****ed up this really is. Think about this

Okay college educated responsible guy. I'm going to put you in this job making 40k a year when you are 24 years old. You won't have a social life because you aren't in college anymore. You won't be able to get dates. You aren't a mack or a player or naturally good looking, you don't have game, so you sit around and entertain yourself and become anti social and depressed

you have to make it to 30 and

A. Not do drugs
B. Not kill anyone
C. Not kill yourself lol


All the while your female counterparts are enjoying life and starting families or partying.


If you can make it it to your 30's as a guy and not have baggage, you can do great. But **** man lol. If you are 30 years old or above and you made it to 30 without any of the above, you need to go take yourself out and party lol.
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backbreaker.....


This could be your best post ever on this site. Seriously.
Really? I dont see it the same way Danger. I think the attitude that Backbreaker described is pathetic(butthurt) and part of the problem...so we may agree there. HOWEVER....its not some big crazy mystical miracle that certain men make it to 30 w/o drugs, suicidal thoughts etc. There are two types of men:

1.) Strong willed 2.) Weak willed.

I am not trying to "speak down" on weak willed men but to deny their existence would be ignorant. I say with full confidence that ALL MEN experience ups and downs....some handle them better. We should strive to place all men into the "strong willed category". The "weak willed" men are the reason we have suicides, shootings, and the new phenomena of "bullying". I think every man has been bullied or atleast have had someone growing up "pick on you". The difference is while some cried and whined....some stood up for themselves. Its seems in our present culture its ok to cry and "tell on the bully" while "doing something about it" is frowned upon...

If and when I have a son....if he ever comes home and tells me hes getting bullied at school, I will instruct him to stand up for himself. And if he says "but ill get in trouble at school".....Ill say "You wont be in trouble with me".

I think we need to get back to being what our masculine core wants us to be. All this sh1t about suicidal thoughts and getting bullied at school are pathetic. I think it would be a good idea to have men teach a class about learning how to deal with problems and stress to children. It would be much more beneficial than telling them its ok to cry...which I would argue leads to depressive thoughts and a bad attitude in general.
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the laws themselves are setup against success for men.
Which laws? I think I have to disagree here, especially being in US. Maybe we have different definitions of success, but I see no law that I would let hinder me from reaching my goals.
 

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Malice said:
The worst part of it was the complete misunderstanding of the game. For example I remember chatting with a woman online during those 3 years. She was interested enough to be chatting with me so we talked for a couple weeks. Then one day she mentioned she had a boyfriend and I flipped. I was like YOU HAVE A BOYFRIEND and I got all butthurt and that ended quickly.

Then another time a chic responded to me online and instead of writing back to her something smooth I got all excited and wrote a long paragraph response of just rambling and I never heard from her again.

Then another time I started chatting witch women in other countries and even talking to them on the phone with this stupid fantasy they would come to me one day. It was pathetic.

It's things like this that guys never learn not to do.

guys think here beucase i'm married i've never been exactly what you described.

it's like, it's not even true AFCism. It's really more just attention depravity than anything else. I went so long without female attention that when I got a morsel of it, I didn't know how to act. you can't just tell that ****ing guy to "be confident" or to "be alpha" or whatever its' a lot more complex than that

The reason this forum is mostly guys in their 20's is that most guys aren't TRUE afcs. they are guys that are just attention deprived. once they get their **** togther in their 30's and they start to interact with women on a more consinstant basis they tend ot leave the site beucase the information is already there really

the thing is, assuming you are just aren't super duper hot, or rich, or famous, most guys have to have it all together before they are prime dating candidates whereas women don't. women for the most part, just have to have tits lol. Or cute feet, or nice legs, or a decent face, or anything.
 

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Really? I dont see it the same way Danger. I think the attitude that Backbreaker described is pathetic(butthurt) and part of the problem...so we may agree there. HOWEVER....its not some big crazy mystical miracle that certain men make it to 30 w/o drugs, suicidal thoughts etc. There are two types of men:

1.) Strong willed 2.) Weak willed.

I am not trying to "speak down" on weak willed men but to deny their existence would be ignorant. I say with full confidence that ALL MEN experience ups and downs....some handle them better. We should strive to place all men into the "strong willed category". The "weak willed" men are the reason we have suicides, shootings, and the new phenomena of "bullying". I think every man has been bullied or atleast have had someone growing up "pick on you". The difference is while some cried and whined....some stood up for themselves. Its seems in our present culture its ok to cry and "tell on the bully" while "doing something about it" is frowned upon...

If and when I have a son....if he ever comes home and tells me hes getting bullied at school, I will instruct him to stand up for himself. And if he says "but ill get in trouble at school".....Ill say "You wont be in trouble with me".

I think we need to get back to being what our masculine core wants us to be. All this sh1t about suicidal thoughts and getting bullied at school are pathetic. I think it would be a good idea to have men teach a class about learning how to deal with problems and stress to children. It would be much more beneficial than telling them its ok to cry...which I would argue leads to depressive thoughts and a bad attitude in general.

Which laws? I think I have to disagree here, especially being in US. Maybe we have different definitions of success, but I see no law that I would let hinder me from reaching my goals.

You misunderstand my post. I am not saying that the thoughts, which never were seriously suicidal but just more of a deep fog/ depression / apathy towards life are okay. I'm saying it deserves more than the stereotypical "man up" response.

Had there been more advice out there other than "man up" I would have probably gotten where I wanted to get faster. I spent the winter of 2003 in a serious depressive state and didn't get **** done.


My female friend, let's call her D. I don't say this to put her down she's a level headed, driven intelligent woman. But, she's 26, her parents paid for her to go to college, when she got out of college, she moved back home where she still lives while she dates her BF. Not only does she live at home, her parents don't want her to leave! They want her to be married before she leaves the house. This is a college educated woman with a 9 to 5 job that makes good money living at home with her parents.


So she takes her extra money, she starts her business which we built the website for. She's a health nut, she's in stupidly good shape but it's pretty easy to be in stuipdily good shape when you can spend 200 dollars a week on food and supplements, she drives a 2012 Black lexus RX300. Which she can easily pay for because she lives at home with her parents.

One of the arguements that we got into was about her boyfriend. She laments that he's not " on her level".. he's 2 years younger than her, he works all the time, drives a beat up car and lives in a ****ty apartment (but stupidly good looking lol). She doesn't get the fact that she has had every ****ing advantage ever to life and her boyfriend hasn't. Thens he's always talking about her boyfriend is "bringing her down and is always depressed" and i took up for him I was like babe you have no ****ing idea how good you have it. She thinks becuase she "gives her parents money all the time" that it's the same as having a mortgage. she's like yeah I have a car note. I'm like yeah that's ALL you have lol. You make like 5 grand a month between her business and her 9 to 5 i'm pretty sure i could swing a 500 dollar car payment as well if that's all i had on my plate lol.


My wife is the same way. My wife lived in France, she's from England, she's lived in New Zealand and she's lived here. Whenever we go out of the country, like we.. we actually conceived our son in Paris, she's always hte one that takes the lead. I've been to Dubai before but before her I've never seriously traveled. She's always saying stuff like "I can't believe you don't travel" " I can't believe you've never done this" and i snapped on her one day and I said "yeah I was busy working, it's easy to travel when you have your parents security blanket" whenever she needed money it was a phone call and a walk to western union away. Who the **** can't be cultured if this is your life lol.


So you take a woman, who has the same job as a man, and because they aren't paying student loans back because no father is going to make his little girl pay for college (at least up to a bachelor's degree, which is ironically where most women stop going to school lol) who lives at home or lives on the dime of their parents and give them all this extra freedom and money and they honestly "mature" faster than men do in the sense that they don't have to stress over the things the avg 24 year old male has to stress out over.


even if guys were just as desirable as women were in their mid to early 20's there are other mitigating factors that keep men from seriously going out and dating like women. A man's primary purpose in his 20's is survival and once he gets to that point, he has to then try to "come up"


Then the same women, lament about men not being "mature"

And all the while men have to find a way to hold it together and understand that it does get better. It really does. But that's easier said than done. your 20's for the most part sucks. Not even so much because you are single. I can live with being single. It sucks because everyone is telling you becuase you aren't at the same level as your female counterparts, and as you can see from the above, that's not fair, that you are a loser and you need to man up


That's why i hate man up so much.
 

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A couple of things, zekko. Sexless AFCs can resort to violent crime. Whether it's motive or just part of their profile varies.

The other phenomena you're referring to (often discussed in the Manosphere) is accused or convicted male criminals receiving fan mail and offers of marriage from women. I.e. after the fact. The Dutch guy who allegedly killed Natalie Holloway in Aruba, and who murdered a woman in Peru, got (gets?) female fan mail. That Scott Peterson guy in California did as well. Usually if the perp is good looking and gets heavy press this will happen. Does it make him "alpha"? Not so sure about that. I think when guys refer to alpha offenders they have some abstract version of Ted Bundy in mind...A handsome charmer who murdered a bunch of young women. I'm sure he got his share of fan mail, but the guy was a monster. If ever there was a misogynist it was Bundy. The only thing that might make a guy like him a situational "Alpha" is if he walks into a room full of men, he probably knows deep down he will kill them before they can kill him. That's some fukked up shyt right there but it passes the test. Psychos like that have ruled nations.
And look at all the people defending Amanda Knox, or who said they would bang that child killer Casey Anthony?

Point being, some men and women are idiots, and will want to involve themselves with criminals so long as they are attractive.
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Your exactly right....they go off because they can no longer deal with the "sh1tty" parts of their life. And it doesnt matter if its a gun or not...they would find a way to do it. A knife, homemade bomb, etc. That being said....to take a few crazy people and to apply that to the masses of responsible gun owners to take away their constitution right....is absurd. If a person broke into my house...you really would want me to knife battle a guy instead of being able to shoot him and protect my family?

And you never responded to my point in a previous thread about criminals not obeying laws. They dont obey laws to begin with.....what makes you think they wont get a gun on the black market if they want to? What makes you think they would obey some law all of a sudden?
I wish people would stop comparing guns with weapons like knives that dont easily dispatch numerous people. Adam Lanza wouldnt kill as many kids with a knife as he did with a gun. At least pick a weapon thats more comparable to a gun.

Jeez
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As these shooting keep getting worse, what is going to happen? I guess they will have to install metal detectors in every school and store in the country. I don't see these shootings going away any time soon, American culture is getting worse not better. Sluts becoming sluttier and men becoming more depressed and sexless and taken advantage of and mental issues growing.
Even during my longest droughts, Ive never wanted to hurt other people because of my own problems. People need to be personally accountable.

Just like there are criminals who are sexless losers, there are criminals who did quite well with women before and after getting caught.

I dont understand how some folks try to take any occurrence in a males life and simplify it down to the DJ-AFC/alpha-beta dichotomy. Life aint that simple.
 

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Danger said:
I don't get what you are saying here. Are you taking this intersection of AFC and Violence in an attempt to disprove that women are generally more attracted to violent men than to accountants?

In other words, from your post I am gathering that you are saying he was a violent AFC and thus violent men don't always get women?


If that is the case, then you are misapplying. You have built an enormous strawman here.

  • He only just now committed an act of violence as far as we can tell. Any allegations that he should already have a stream of would-be lovers is ridiculous, and you are smart enough to know that.
  • Nobody says that ALL violent men get women, but when you look at women's "choosing" years in their late teens and early 20's, can you seriously deny that women choose the football type jocks over the studious UN Honor Society members???

I am awesome with numbers and I was almost an accountant. I have nothing against them, but you have to put yourselves in the woman's shoes when looking at such things. If an 18 year old girl has a studious would-be accountant on one side, and a well-built popular running back on the other side.......how do you think she will view them relative to eachother? The big hunky jock versus cute little joe the accountant major.

He may not be "little", but he only need to appear that way in her mind compared to the other men.
I think you need to get out more.

I know some jacked guys who have dorky majors or generally "nerdy" jobs. One guy I know is ripped to shreds, and yet hes a computer science major. I had a boring major in college, and have had boring jobs since leaving college, but I workout 4 days a week, and have what most girls who call a sexy body.

I also play basketball and soccer whenever I get the chance. People only need to look at Crossfit too, to see how people from all walks of life are becoming active, sexy, and fit. Btw, go to a Spartan Race and see the different kinds of people you meet.

These assumptions based on job description and college major are silly.
 

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backbreaker said:
guys think here beucase i'm married i've never been exactly what you described.

it's like, it's not even true AFCism. It's really more just attention depravity than anything else. I went so long without female attention that when I got a morsel of it, I didn't know how to act. you can't just tell that ****ing guy to "be confident" or to "be alpha" or whatever its' a lot more complex than that

The reason this forum is mostly guys in their 20's is that most guys aren't TRUE afcs. they are guys that are just attention deprived. once they get their **** togther in their 30's and they start to interact with women on a more consinstant basis they tend ot leave the site beucase the information is already there really

the thing is, assuming you are just aren't super duper hot, or rich, or famous, most guys have to have it all together before they are prime dating candidates whereas women don't. women for the most part, just have to have tits lol. Or cute feet, or nice legs, or a decent face, or anything.

In the end I got so tired of being lonely I realized that being lonely is worse than cold approaching and being rejected. So I just started cold approaching got rejected tons but when I told that woman at the gas station she had nice hair, her face lit up like a bulb and she smiled and laughed and we started talking. I got her # and she was in the backseat of the car on the first date. the biggest problem was caring too much and being scared. Cold approaching IS confidence.

After that cold approach success and the head every day I was a new man. Didn't give a crap anymore, hit the gym, did whatever I wanted. It only takes 1 cold approach success to turn the corner.
 

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TheException said:
Which laws? I think I have to disagree here, especially being in US. Maybe we have different definitions of success, but I see no law that I would let hinder me from reaching my goals.
The laws that allow women to run around like wh0res. USa should be like the middle east and put women in Burkas and they can't leave the house.

I understand why they do it now. America is what happens when women run wild.
 
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