Great confirmation of my progress!

[Die Hard]

Yeehah!! I love myself!

Yesterday when I was going out, I met the ex of one of my best friends, I hadn't seen her in a year or so. Now at the time her and him were together, I often met her and we used to have a lot of deep conversations, often about men/women/relationships. She respected me quite much because I was total AFC back then: I 'understood' women and 'respected' them, I was the honest and faithful type, the honorable white knight, I watched Sex & the City and could take part in a typical women conversation like I was one of them (YUCK!) But naturally, at the same time, I couldn't get any women. They would play me and break my heart lol. She (the ex of my pal) always hoped that I would find a girl that was worthy of me, because I was such a good man, according to her. But hey, what did she know, being a girl?

Now here's the thing: She really noticed a difference in me last night! I had changed... The way I carried myself, my "aura", everything. She was very suprised (although dissapointed, because I had turned into the "wrong" type of guy), like she was seeing a whole different person in front of her than she used to know! Of course, she also asked how my love life was going.. I told her that I just view women as 'fun' now, nothing more and that I'm certainly not looking for a LTR. She was totally shocked to hear this haha! (since I was always religiously looking for a LTR and also the perfect type for a LTR). I almost felt bad about myself, haha, she was so dissapointed that I had changed! You see, in her eyes I was always sort of living proof that there were still good men out there. Now I had turned into one of the "bad" types (in her eyes).

Anyway, I feel awesome! I've been working on myself for a while now and this experience definitely proves that I've made good progress: She could really sense the difference between the 'old me' and the 'new me'. In addition to the way I carried myself, she also told me how much more muscular I've become..a great compliment for all the hard work I've been putting in at the gym!

Of course I know I've made progress since I decided to go from AFC to DJ, but this experience was a great confirmation of the fact and it makes me very happy!


Thank you Sosuave!

 

[SPEAK]

I know exactly what you are talking about. Its an amazing feeling to have someone notice your improvement in something you are actively working on. Like when your boss says that you are funny when you have been working on your sense of humor. The truth is that the majority of people who just by knowing this forum exists are already above the average man in knowledge about dealing with women, you will stand out! Congrats on another sosuave success story!

 

[zekko]

She was very suprised (although dissapointed, because I had turned into the "wrong" type of guy)

Congratulations. I remember a little after I got into this stuff how great I felt the first time some hot girl told me I was a jerk (jokingly). I couldn't have been happier if she had told me I was the sexiest man alive.

But what do you think she meant when she said you had turned into the "wrong" type of guy? And do you think it's possible that she was right? It's great that you rid yourself of your AFC-ness but do you think maybe you could have went too far in the opposite direction? Just curious.

 

[DoItAgain]

See, I never had that "one of the girls" problem, even at my worst. I desperately wanted a relationship when I was depressed and had low self-esteem, but I was never the gay friend. In fact, with my ex last year, part of the reason she didn't like me is because I talked to her like I would a guy friend...I'd talk to her about the 1-10 scale, AWs, stuff like that.

 

[Die Hard]

Congratulations. I remember a little after I got into this stuff how great I felt the first time some hot girl told me I was a jerk (jokingly). I couldn't have been happier if she had told me I was the sexiest man alive.

But what do you think she meant when she said you had turned into the "wrong" type of guy? And do you think it's possible that she was right? It's great that you rid yourself of your AFC-ness but do you think maybe you could have went too far in the opposite direction? Just curious.

No way! She (and a loooot of other women) want to have control over a man, they want a provider who just says "Yes, dear" all the time and does anything she wants. He has to be a real gentleman, always pay attention to her, always supplicate and put her on a pedestal. That's a "good" man from a lot of women's perspective's. Once he stops regarding women as 'princesses' and starts regarding them as 'fun', they consider him the 'wrong' type.

Have I gone too far in the opposite direction? Hell, no! I'm just getting started .

 

[ArcBound]

This ex-oneitis saw me after two years and she said the same thing. "Wow you changed so much! I never imagined you this way! You're so mean!"

Two years early when I was chasing her and got friendzoned:
"You're one of the nicest guys I know! You're special and don't ever change!"

I asked her didn't she call me the nicest guy she knew back then? And she just said, yeah you certainly changed...First time I had respect from her out of all the time I knew her. Because I wasn't one of the nice guy orbiters that she still collects. If you feel awesome and you're getting results and not doing anything horrible then who is your friend to judge that you "turned into the wrong type of guy".Good job dude if other people are noticing your change then it must mean you're doing something right. A little muscle and game wouldn't hurt anyone

 

[slaog]

Congrats on your improvement.

No way! She (and a loooot of other women) want to have control over a man, they want a provider who just says "Yes, dear" all the time and does anything she wants. He has to be a real gentleman, always pay attention to her, always supplicate and put her on a pedestal. That's a "good" man from a lot of women's perspective's. Once he stops regarding women as 'princesses' and starts regarding them as 'fun', they consider him the 'wrong' type.

Have I gone too far in the opposite direction? Hell, no! I'm just getting started .

You can still treat them nicely. The main thing is to have a higher value.

 

[Proselytiser]

I'm happy for you Die Hard

 

[Die Hard]

Cool to get these postitive reactions, it's stimulating ! It's been a tough year for me, proabably the toughest of my life... I've had a lot of problems in every area of my life (losing my job, struggling to even have a place to sleep, cutting all ties with my family, dealing with some serious emotional damage from my youth etc.). I'm still struggling with some of these things but the worst has passed. And even if it hasn't, I will weather the storm anyway. The most important thing throughout it all, is that all my problems have one thing in common: They're there because I respect myself!! People tried to take me down and not let me get back up, stay dominant over me and use that position to coerce me into betraying myself, disrespecting myself as a person. I stopped doing that, chose to respect myself and not let anyone coerce me into anything! This change of attitude has brought me a lot of trouble but through it all, I have always been able to look at myself in the mirror without shame, knowing I was staying true to myself.

Regarding the progress I made with women: it's great but I'm still just halfway there. I've made big progress in attracting them, being sexual, being confident, conversational skills, my inner game... However, I still have to turn all that into real results: regularly picking girls up, f*cking them, dating them, spinning plates. But that's just the next half of my journey and I'm proud to have completed the first half!

 

[Ease]

You can still treat them nicely. The main thing is to have a higher value.

This is false. Treating them nicely has no benefits. Rule with an iron fist and her happiness will come from being under your command.

Dont love deze hoez

 

[Die Hard]

Hmm, I guess it comes down to one's conscience/personality... I wouldn't want to rule them with an iron fist, I would feel a "bad person" if I did.

passiveness - assertivity - aggression

I think you can 'manage' women through both assertivity and aggression. I prefer assertivity...

 

[slaog]

This is false. Treating them nicely has no benefits. Rule with an iron fist and her happiness will come from being under your command.

Dont love deze hoez

Thats nonsense. You can treat them nicely if they deserve it.