Julius_Seizeher said:
They always talk about how the country used to be a friendlier place, but they never say why. A hundred years ago, everybody carried a gun.
Check out the Sig Sauer P226 X-Five with the brown grips.
Sorry to hear about this mang
Yeah, there's a gray area surrounding open/concealed carry in a location where alcohol is served. Don't know about the policy for the bar he was at but usually it's a No Weapons (guns/knives/menacing looking stuff) policy across the board in bars/clubs and other alcohol-serving venues.
Even if he did carry one, since he's a law abiding citizen it would have been in his vehicle. Criminals know this and they specifically target people who are in a vulnerable position (leaving a bar, intoxicated, and 99% chance not carrying a defensive tool).
Unlucky bb, but it could have been worse.
Onlyliveonce said:
Some food for thought if you get a gun. To safely defend yourself against attack you will need twenty one feet away from assailants to draw and aim. Anything closer and you risk getting gun taken from you or a struggle ensues. In addition if you shoot someone point blank in the head they can still attack you for approximately six seconds before they die.
Perhaps you mean heart? If you shoot somebody in the brain or the central nervous system, they're dead or incapacitated before the round exits the body.
Bible_Belt said:
Although I highly respect the skill and training involved in handling a firearm well, I still believe that developing open-hand skills are the best route for most able-bodied men. And fwiw, it is possible to fight multiple attackers. Most of it involves running; you run unless you're only fighting one guy at each moment. Two or three on 1 is a popular sparring drill for conditioning.
This is okay in a controlled and respectful environment. Not so for fighting off muggers and criminals. If I get jumped on the street my first assumption is that he/they has a weapon. Step one is run. If I cannot run then step two is to end their attack, which means 3 hollow points to the chest.
Drawing a sub-compact pistol or snubbie revolver within arms reach of your assailant is a dangerous gambit, but proper training can make it manageable in a majority of real-life scenarios.
Ever try sparring against someone who might pull a knife/pipe/knuckleduster/screwdriver on you?
Until you train MMA in life and death scenarios, it shouldn't be relied upon as a means of self-defense. Sure it will work for improvising, but when you're getting jumped by 3 criminals in the dark, that's the time when you want a real method of self-defense.
Mine currently are 1. running shoes 2. 3" lockback knife in waistband 3. firearm where legalities allow (outside urban areas).
This country sucks for self-defense.
Women can't even carry OC-spray. It's a free for all here if you're a criminal.
backbreaker said:
if you think it about it, 99.9% of the people out there, don't really carry ****, dont' really have any way to defend themselves in that instance. basically you are just depending on good will. fuuuuck that.
The 99.9% of people are victims waiting to happen. Don't want to turn this into another firearms debate, but I would strongly recommend you get the open/concealed carry license. If you're carrying a sub-compact pistol, it doesn't mean you HAVE to use it. In many cases I'd rather take a punch to the gut and have my car stolen than have to shoot somebody. However sometimes you have obligations...
Imagine if your fiancee or your kid was there?
At least if you're carrying, you have something to fall back on if it becomes life or death or you have to protect your family.
