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My dad tried to do the right thing and stick around, which he did accomplish, but he and my mom fought constantly and I had a miserable childhood because of it. I was hoping for them to divorce for as long as I could remember, which they finally did, but not until about ten years ago. Maybe your church morals, pretend to be a happy family bs works for you. But it made my life sh!tty for a long time. I don't think it should be forced on anyone, especially kids.
 

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I agree bible belt... To some degree... And maybe my perception is skewed. And to be honest I hate church even though my family and I hold many christian views.

When its bad between the parents its not good for the kids either... I understand that. My core 4 is happy (myself, wife, and 2 kids who are 18 and 12) couldn't give a darn now about the rest of my extended family... They are all dead to me. I will rebuild a functioning family unit from here forward.

Anyways.. Have a great weekend. I'm off to go attend my sons skating lessons and be an encouragement while my daughter is off volunteering to get her hours for college. Be safe everyone. :)

Edit: sorry it turned out that way for you bible belt you're right sometimes it is for the best.. . For me my dad beat my mom several times in front of me... But I still longed for them to function normally and love eachother. Never happened.
 

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couldn't give a darn now about the rest of my extended family... They are all dead to me.

Come on now, love your enemy. I wish churches taught ideas like that.
 

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we were both reckless, her not following her doctors instructions on the bc and me not using a condom anyway. Whatever the case, she is dead set on keeping it, which is fine. But im starting to wonder if that was what she wanted all along. She has no future career goals and has flunked out of college... so maybe a kid is what she wanted/needed to give her a purpose. Surely thats not unheard of.

Also turns out, if it is mine, it was conceived in a church parking lot hehe.
 

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Come on now, love your enemy. I wish churches taught ideas like that.
Sometimes walking away, and handing them over to Satan, is the most loving thing you can do. (experience)
 

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Also turns out, if it is mine, it was conceived in a church parking lot hehe.
Maybe out of context... But I'm lol'n about that one. Haha
I should do that with my wife... Maybe I would like church better... Lmao. *shrugs*

Edit to add: I got the V .. So we could only try furiously... And hope to not get busted lmao.
 

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according to the child support income calculator and what she has told me about her income it's between 150-180 a month. However, I may be roped into helping her pay for pre and post natal expenses if her insurance is bad or nonexistent. Again, its information i dont know that she has yet to relay.
 

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Kinda strange that a woman can decide to forfeit her parental rights through abortion or adoption at any time but a man has no choice and is forced to pay even if he doesn't want the kid.
Yep, but we are egal right ? I hate feminism
 

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thanks. shes asked that i and her meet her mom tomorrow over dinner.
 

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we were both reckless, her not following her doctors instructions on the bc and me not using a condom anyway. Whatever the case, she is dead set on keeping it, which is fine. But im starting to wonder if that was what she wanted all along. She has no future career goals and has flunked out of college... so maybe a kid is what she wanted/needed to give her a purpose. Surely thats not unheard of.

Also turns out, if it is mine, it was conceived in a church parking lot hehe.
More likely to give her a source of income.
 

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Hey guys, new to all this Don Juan business, so I have a question here.

Back in November I got with this chick for a month and had unprotected sex given I was told of her birth control. I know, stupid of me. But anyway we split soon after because of what I percieve as my old beta afc behaviors. Anyway... A couple weeks ago I got a text from her, the first since the split, saying she's 11 weeks pregnant and that it is definitely mine. We met up and I saw the sonograph and papers etc.

I realize she could be lying as to me being the father but that's something I'll wait for a paternal test to decide.

My question for you guys is that it bothers me to no end that I'm going to have a kid with someone that wants nothing to do with me at all. She's not open to getting close again so how should I proceed here? Should I move on and next her despite a possible kid and the ramifications to its upbringing? Could that attract her or piss her off further if I do move on?

I realize me worrying about this could be afc in nature but its weird with a kid tied to her that could be mine lingering in the background. Thoughts?
Right now the only thing that matters is the kid. She is history. She doesn't matter. Firsy thing you do is get a paternity test and sign nothing until you know it is yours. If you agree to sign something before you know you will be on the financial hook for a child that might not be yours. Consult with a lawyer. Remember 4 million American men are on the financial hook for kids that are not theirs becausea woman has lied to them.
 

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I'm reading rollo's second book and the alpha seed, beta need thing he talks about is hitting me hard.
 

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I just hate those stories. Going to buy a bucket of super high quality condoms.

Even they tell you they are on birth control, how do you ensure it's true? You can't.
So you do what? You make them sign a paper?

Her: "I hate condoms. Let's get tested and fvck bare skin."

Sure, 10 weeks later you are a father.

It is just so sad. You do not want to fvck a girl anymore because you really can't trust them and society does not protect you at all. And the day they become pregnant, you are fvcked for 20 years.

A man has absolutely no right to chose if he wants to be a father or not. He is just here to provide and pay the bill. An ATM machine with legs.

150-180$ is nothing. Where I live you pay close to 1000$/month for child support depending on your income and the mother's income. But be sure that as soon as they become pregnant they stop working and start having lot of psy sickness that prevent them to work.

Even though you love the kids, and I personaly love kids, you can't trust society anymore to build a strong and sane family.

Child support is for the kid, not the mother. The priority of today's society should be to protect kids against fvcked up adults and that include women. Giving a mother to a kid is not the definitive solution to have well educated kids, it's probably the worst solution actually.

I have heard so many identical horror stories in my close vicinity. Those stories make me sick... The thought of me fvcking my crazy ex with no protection makes me shiver.

RangerMike is right, I am really thinking about putting my boys on ice and get a vasectomy so at least I will be sure to have a good life until the end.
 

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My dad tried to do the right thing and stick around, which he did accomplish, but he and my mom fought constantly and I had a miserable childhood because of it. I was hoping for them to divorce for as long as I could remember, which they finally did, but not until about ten years ago. Maybe your church morals, pretend to be a happy family bs works for you. But it made my life sh!tty for a long time. I don't think it should be forced on anyone, especially kids.
Here here.

If any hoe gets "accidently" pregnant through me, I'll be there for the Kid, but the mother will get the absolute minimum level of contact.

Women like that are scum.
 

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She'd get more if she would let me co-raise it and pay by check as you said. But that's if she is willing to communicate at all.
"If she would let me co-raise it"

Look at that fvcking statement. If she would let you? She doesn't OWN the child. She doesn't control you. That kid is half yours. DEMAND that you GET to co-raise. Tell her that. Tell the judge that. They won't turn you down for wanting to be part of the kid's life unless she proves that you're a drug user, alcoholic, abusive, etc.

You need to stand up to the bytch. You need to tell her what YOU want, but at the same time you need to make it "fair". That is, unless you want absolutely nothing to do with the both of them. If that's the case, then you need to pay them to go away for 18 years.
 

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mmhmm, i pay the same regardless if i stick around to help or not which is silly
 

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Assuming it turns out to be yours and you choose to be involved, which I would strongly recommend as this child could turn out to be best thing in your life.

Forget about a relationship with her for the moment and just provide support, do this via emails, inquire about the progress of the pregnancy, how she's feeling etc, attend appointments if you can.

At this stage she has no idea about the amount of work involved after the childs birth. Be there as much as you can for the child, to give her a break and so you get a chance to bond with the child.

If you're negotiating time with your child do so by email and always frame the email around "what’s best for the child".
Do your best to appear that you also have her best interests at heart whether you care or not.

Eg. "I'd like to have (bubs name) for the weekend, it's important for (bubs name) that he/she gets to bond with both parents. It's also important that you get some rest so you can be there for her/him.......blah blah blah"

Never ever get abusive in emails or texts, if she's pushing your buttons write what you'd like to say but don't send it, let yourself cool for a day, tone it down and reframe it as "what’s best for the child". Avoid personal attacks.

Get a diary and record ALL your time with your child, expenses, support etc.

Retain all emails, if you text a lot get a program that allows you to import text messages into word or excel. Make multiple copies of everything.

Keep your nose clean with the law at all times, never disclose to her anything that could be used against you no matter how well you are getting along at the time.

Do I sound paranoid yet? Consider these scenarios:

1. She meets someone else she considers better "Daddy material" and tries to shut you out to keep a tidy little family unit.
2. She decides to move 1000's of miles away.
3. You meet someone else, the child mentions how great your new partner is. She gets triggered/jealous and tries to limit contact.
4. She tries to reduce your time for more $$$.

Any of that, and more, is possible over the course of the next 15 or so years.

If you do try to rekindle the relationship give it your best but only once. As others have said sticking it out for the child will mean unhappiness for everyone.

My ex fell pregnant at the end of our relationship, "failed birth control" apparently. Truth is she saw this as her last option to have a child and knew I had the resources to provide support.

We tried to get back together for the child but this was a total waste of time. We worked well together for the first few years but she was always trying to draw me back in. When I started a new LTR she flipped and began limiting my contact with my son.

We’ve been exchanging solicitors letters and attending mediation for the last year and a half. Last week I had a major win in the courts. The judge blasted her for 20mins. She was making me out to be a terrible father but I could prove through emails/texts etc. that I had always been there for him and that she was an emotionally unstable controlling *****.

Wish I could have seen her face when the judge told her she needed therapy! I’ve ordered the court transcript so I can relive the moments the judge smacked her back into her box. It was absolutely beautiful; I’ll probably do a post here later and share my favourite quotes! It’s cost me more than $10K but was so worth it.

One last thing, if it’s a boy order the book “Raising Boys” by Steve Biddulph. I recommend it to anyone with a son. Sound advice on how to raise a man. The information in it runs parallel to a lot of the good advice you can find on this site.

Good luck, keep us posted.
 
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