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I’d say out of every 10 instas I’d get from daygame approaches 3 would lead to dates with one of those being a lay- you need to approach more and up the volume - the majority of insta closes have ended up near no where
Im in a small city if i started doing this every1 would know and I'd be a weirdo.
 

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She left me on sent sadly
Something you'll learn...getting her info seems promising but your chance to make things happen is usually only in the moment that night.

Once she is out of that mode she was in and back to her normal reality, unlikely anything is going to happen most times.
 

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Playing two meaningless games of pool and then asking for her Instagram isn’t going to get you very far. Not only will you fail to gauge her interest level, but you were also in a situation where everyone was essentially ****blocking each other and stepping on everyone’s toes.

Lastly, it seems like you’re young. Most social circles at your age consist of an “alpha male” and his minions/friends who lack personality. The alpha male usually gets the most ****, while the others are often relegated to the friend zone. Hopefully, you have something that sets you apart from the pack. For example, you’re not just the “car guy” who gives everyone a ride or the “weed guy” who just rolls blunts. Ideally, you have something more going for .
I doubt there will ever be an opportunity to hang out again cus my friend left 8 mins after the came and I was on a solo mission, and only got the 2 girl's ig's.

Im young. Also she followed me back minutes after i followed her while we were still at the party.
 

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Something you'll learn...getting her info seems promising but your chance to make things happen is usually only in the moment that night.

Once she is out of that mode she was in and back to her normal reality, unlikely anything is going to happen most times.
So I should try going for the kiss on the spot instead of going for a number or smthn?

This wasnt the standard mosh pit full house party. It had people but wasnt cramped, and it wasnt like in a disco. The place is an ex internet caffe, so the main thing was pool and mini football. Musis wasnt loud. Maybe I could've stuck around and tried to talk more, gouge interest and if she was interested kiss.

But even me talking to them and asking for their IG is a big win for me, usually id be too scared to even to that.
 

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So I should try going for the kiss on the spot instead of going for a number or smthn?

This wasnt the standard mosh pit full house party. It had people but wasnt cramped, and it wasnt like in a disco. The place is an ex internet caffe, so the main thing was pool and mini football. Musis wasnt loud. Maybe I could've stuck around and tried to talk more, gouge interest and if she was interested kiss.

But even me talking to them and asking for their IG is a big win for me, usually id be too scared to even to that.
You flirt with her and then tell her this place is kinda boring, you want to check somewhere else out and invite her to come with you.

If she says no, then you can always fall back to trying to get the number for later but at that point it's a low probability play anyway.

You'd be surprised how little it takes to get an interested woman to follow a guy she just met somewhere else hoping that it will lead to something magical later that night.

The first time you do it you are going to say to yourself "It's really that easy? This can't actually be real..."

Essentially, if a woman has decided she wants to fvck you, she will make it easy for that to happen if you give gently nudges in that direction.
 

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You flirt with her and then tell her this place is kinda boring, you want to check somewhere else out and invite her to come with you.

If she says no, then you can always fall back to trying to get the number for later but at that point it's a low probability play anyway.

You'd be surprised how little it takes to get an interested woman to follow a guy she just met somewhere else hoping that it will lead to something magical later that night.

The first time you do it you are going to say to yourself "It's really that easy? This can't actually be real..."
Where would I take her? Also how would I flirt. Im pretty dry in the beginning but after some time i become pretty "bold", flirting easily.

Is complimenting a good start? Like the baddie had nice eyes could've commented about that, or maybe waiting for her to show interest first and then complimenting after?
 

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Where would I take her? Also how would I flirt. Im pretty dry in the beginning but after some time i become pretty "bold", flirting easily.

Is complimenting a good start? Like the baddie had nice eyes could've commented about that, or maybe waiting for her to show interest first and then complimenting after?
I can't tell you that, you have to figure something out based on where you are and what else is in the area. Essentially you are just getting her isolated and having he go with you somewhere. It creates a mental shift in her mind that it's more like a date, etc.

Could always just be like I'm hungry, let's go grab something to eat and find a place down the street to grab something simple. It doesn't matter where you go, just that you go somewhere else with her.

I'd be careful with complimenting her too much, that's what 95% of men do and it is common. If you are going to compliment her to has to be something you noticed that is unique and something most other men wouldn't notice.

Saying she has nice eyes is common...saying you like how the color of her dress brings out her eyes and makes them really stand out is not...it's something you noticed and is a real compliment not just a canned one.
 

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I'd be careful with complimenting her too much, that's what 95% of men do and it is common. If you are going to compliment her to has to be something you noticed that is unique and something most other men wouldn't notice.
If you dont compliment then how do you flirt?
 

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How would that help?
I said when some time pass and you understood about 24 hours later. I did that on purpose to make you think.

There is nothing I can do or say to help you. Everything has to come within you and how you view yourself.

If you come here to get girls based on what other say, you're wasting your time, to get girls you need to follow your instincts but your instincts right now are as beta passive guy.

Did you read the book of pook and rationale male series? That would be a good starting point.
 

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So now you have learned that giving out a handle or even a phone number can be a blow off.

As has been said, you have to get time with her 1:1. I hate to say isolate because it is so calculated and cold, when the moment should be totally opposite.

You didn’t leave a hint of a positive impression or she would have answered you. Your job if you like her is to make it fun, exciting and alluring to reconnect with you.

That starts by building rapport and being flirtatious. Push and pull - funny, slightly c0cky, then be nice and inquisitive, but not overly, wash rinse repeat. If you don’t get her home that evening then you at minimum should have successfully distinguished yourself from the pack.

Your attitude should convey interest but also disinterest from a position of confidence, as in, you are looking to get to know her but you also have the respect and belief in yourself to leave if it doesn’t work.

At the end of the day, women are like little girls - they want to have fun and they respect your masculine energy and authority.

Do the next interaction on your terms, while minding not to be an actual jerk, and you should end up better. Then you ask for the number your way.
 

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I said when some time pass and you understood about 24 hours later. I did that on purpose to make you think.

There is nothing I can do or say to help you. Everything has to come within you and how you view yourself.

If you come here to get girls based on what other say, you're wasting your time, to get girls you need to follow your instincts but your instincts right now are as beta passive guy.

Did you read the book of pook and rationale male series? That would be a good starting point.
Book of pook is great. Rational male would do nothing for him here. Or ever honestly.

Also, you’re not giving him any advice, your taking cheap shots.
 

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If you dont compliment then how do you flirt?
You have to be careful how it is going to land. If you’ve gotten into good rapport with what I said above, a compliment could be a nice change of pace. Otherwise though, you’re just going to end up another one of those thirst trap guys that’s going to buy her drinks and she will slide out after you pay the bill.
 

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your taking cheap shots.
Read the entire post and then come back to me.

Also, giving advice to new guys who ask those kind of questions is $tupid, they're gonna fvck it up anyways.
 

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If you come here to get girls based on what other say, you're wasting your time, to get girls you need to follow your instincts but your instincts right now are as beta passive guy.

Did you read the book of pook and rationale male series? That would be a good starting point.
Ive read TRM half, and rich cooper's unplugged alpha guide fully. But I've binged rollo's vids. My dad is pretty "red pilled" so most of rollo's ideas have come naturally.

I agree experience teaches best, but if someone tells me to do something, and it works that'll get engrained in my memory. But if I do something I think is good but just fail. I'll also learn, but why not learn through wins?
I read some of pook book thingy, was cool. i can reread. I listened to the audiobook while in the gym so little really stuck.
 

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I agree experience teaches best, but if someone tells me to do something, and it works that'll get engrained in my memory. But if I do something I think is good but just fail. I'll also learn, but why not learn through wins?
I get your thinking, but it won't work because not two men are the same, they are too many variables involved in an interaction with a woman. We can say what works in general, what to do and what not to do. But also, those "rules" are not set in stone, they can be bend. if you wanna learn, try things.
 

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I doubt there will ever be an opportunity to hang out again cus my friend left 8 mins after the came and I was on a solo mission, and only got the 2 girl's ig's.

Im young. Also she followed me back minutes after i followed her while we were still at the party.
Everyone wants to be seduced and led astray; most people crave it. If they didn’t, there wouldn’t be so many people out there infatuated, in love, or sleeping with each other. With that said, how can you lead someone into an environment of pleasure and romance if you’re a follower yourself? This is why the leader of the social group, the alpha male, gets all the attention. He leads with plans, charisma, and confidence. He knows where the parties are, he knows everyone, and people gravitate toward him. Again, I’m working under the assumption that you are the follower in your group.

I was originally going to suggest texting her with a purpose, but instead, I’d advise you to think hard about what you really want out of this. Most men know how to initiate a conversation, but the deeper question is: What is your real goal? Even if you think you just want sex, or a harem of women, the reality is that most men who haven’t gotten laid as often as they’d like are actually seeking validation—from a hot girl, from the competition, from their peers or from their own insecurities.

Lastly, people have different strategies for asking women out. I don’t give mine out easily. I either wait until she’s a little more invested or until she starts to chase. I don’t operate under a scarcity mindset, where if something is too easy to get, it loses value. A man who constantly asks women out is no different from a woman who gives herself away too easily, both become less desirable.

I hope this helps.
 

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Everyone wants to be seduced and led astray; most people crave it. If they didn’t, there wouldn’t be so many people out there infatuated, in love, or sleeping with each other. With that said, how can you lead someone into an environment of pleasure and romance if you’re a follower yourself? This is why the leader of the social group, the alpha male, gets all the attention. He leads with plans, charisma, and confidence. He knows where the parties are, he knows everyone, and people gravitate toward him. Again, I’m working under the assumption that you are the follower in your group.

I was originally going to suggest texting her with a purpose, but instead, I’d advise you to think hard about what you really want out of this. Most men know how to initiate a conversation, but the deeper question is: What is your real goal? Even if you think you just want sex, or a harem of women, the reality is that most men who haven’t gotten laid as often as they’d like are actually seeking validation—from a hot girl, from the competition, from their peers or from their own insecurities.

I hope this helps.
I definetlt wanted a relationship, it sucks being single. I also wanted all my friends to see and a couple of girls who've been bitccchy towards me, interesting thing they werent bitcchhy at all after they saw me in a group of girls.

I mainly cared about a relationship though.

I am more of a follower, I've never thought about leading. Ive tried and found it fun but exhausting (putting in effort to organise things etc). But if it gets me chicks I will try to lead more.
 

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I am more of a follower, I've never thought about leading. Ive tried and found it fun but exhausting (putting in effort to organise things etc). But if it gets me chicks I will try to lead more.
You should want to lead because you should want to be the kind of man who makes his own decisions - not because you think it'll get you more girls.
 

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I get your thinking, but it won't work because not two men are the same, they are too many variables involved in an interaction with a woman. We can say what works in general, what to do and what not to do. But also, those "rules" are not set in stone, they can be bend. if you wanna learn, try things.
This is the thing most people don't realize...what works for one person won't work for another and vice versa due to their personality.

You need to accentuate your strengths and work on your weaknesses to turn those into strengths. Too many men accentuate their weaknesses and hide their strengths trying to be someone else.
 
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