Got a date Feb 2nd

[christoff522]

Well, if it doesn't, I will be the the first to come in here and let y'all know.

Right now the bet is

Will the girl come on the date.

Starting at evens and working from there let say the odds of attending are (uk odds)

5/1 she will attend
3/2 she won't

place your bets!

 

[Igetit!]

We talked about confidence, how I was going to devastate her at bowling and her saying that in fact no it was her who was going to beat me. I teased her about trying to mock my masculinity, we joked about how we were going to wind her friend up again, and I told her I was going for a bath and jokingly she told me I needed one.

This type conversation.....

It's not bad......there's just nothing memorable there....nothing to spark or stir up any attraction/chemistry in her. You should have weaved attraction spikes in and out of the convo.

Like when you talked about bowling...it was ok to talk about beating her at bowling,but also,you should have said something like,"It's gonna be a win-win for me either way. If I win the game,I win. If I lose,well hey....at least I get to watch you bend over like 10 or 15 times,so hey...it's all good. (wink)."

Or when you talked about going to take a bath....you should have switched it over to taking a shower,then asked her if she'd like to join you. She would have said no,then afterward,I'd been like,"Don't you care about the planet? If you take a shower and I take one,that's double the amount of water being used,but if we take one together,we help conserve energy. Geez....what kind of person are you???"

You gotta be playful man.....weave a little sexual banter in and out of your convos. Nothing too over the top,but you have to make it clear that you're a man who's SEXUALLY INTERESTED in her. Otherwise,you run risk of getting friendzoned.

Because she's made a lot of effort to ensure I was invested in her.

That's fair. And YOU? What have YOU DONE to ensure she's placed investment in you???

 

[christoff522]

This type conversation.....

It's not bad......there's just nothing memorable there....nothing to spark or stir up any attraction/chemistry in her. You should have weaved attraction spikes in and out of the convo.

Like when you talked about bowling...it was ok to talk about beating her at bowling,but also,you should have said something like,"It's gonna be a win-win for me either way. If I win the game,I win. If I lose,well hey....at least I get to watch you bend over like 10 or 15 times,so hey...it's all good. (wink)."

Or when you talked about going to take a bath....you should have switched it over to taking a shower,then asked her if she'd like to join you. She would have said no,then afterward,I'd been like,"Don't you care about the planet? If you take a shower and I take one,that's double the amount of water being used,but if we take one together,we help conserve energy. Geez....what kind of person are you???"

You gotta be playful man.....weave a little sexual banter in and out of your convos. Nothing too over the top,but you have to make it clear that you're a man who's SEXUALLY INTERESTED in her. Otherwise,you run risk of getting friendzoned.

Yeah okay thats something I can do next time I speak to her.

I'm gonna be honest, I've not really done stuff like that before - So it wouldn't have come naturally to me.

Thanks for the advice.

That's fair. And YOU? What have YOU DONE to ensure she's placed investment in you???

That I do not know. Advice? please?

 

[christoff522]

You misunderstand. I am taking advice. I'm ignoring the negative and embracing the positive.

Like someone told me to talk to her..so I did.

If someone is telling me I'm going to fail before I've even begun, they can do one.

 

[marmel75]

What nonsense, being prepared for an eventuality is not the same as creating that eventuality. If a nation makes nuclear weapons in order to defend themselves against other nuclear nations, does not mean they've started a nuclear war.

I am here for advice to ensure I don't f*** up, that does not mean I've already f***ed up. It means I want advice from beginning to end as I learn what I'm doing and adapt to varying circumstances.

I will indeed send her a message! short but sweet.

No, you are misunderstanding the point. The point is, you already care too much about what the outcome will be. It's one woman in a world of millions of them. There is nothing overtly special about THIS particular woman that should make you care so much about whether she responds to you in the way you want or not. The mindset you need to get to is that it doesn't matter what she does because she is easily replaceable.

Ironically enough, this type of mindset leads to women being more attracted to you simply because you put out the vibe that you don't give a Fvck about them, which to them means that you must already get laid a lot(whether you do or not).

It's one thing to ask for advice, it's another to say "I don't want to Fvck this up." Once you get to that point, you put her in a position of power over you and lessen your position, which is the exact opposite of what should happen.

 

[FCB]

This type conversation.....

It's not bad......there's just nothing memorable there....nothing to spark or stir up any attraction/chemistry in her. You should have weaved attraction spikes in and out of the convo.

Like when you talked about bowling...it was ok to talk about beating her at bowling,but also,you should have said something like,"It's gonna be a win-win for me either way. If I win the game,I win. If I lose,well hey....at least I get to watch you bend over like 10 or 15 times,so hey...it's all good. (wink)."

Or when you talked about going to take a bath....you should have switched it over to taking a shower,then asked her if she'd like to join you. She would have said no,then afterward,I'd been like,"Don't you care about the planet? If you take a shower and I take one,that's double the amount of water being used,but if we take one together,we help conserve energy. Geez....what kind of person are you???"

You gotta be playful man.....weave a little sexual banter in and out of your convos. Nothing too over the top,but you have to make it clear that you're a man who's SEXUALLY INTERESTED in her. Otherwise,you run risk of getting friendzoned.





That's fair. And YOU? What have YOU DONE to ensure she's placed investment in you???

This is some good advice/examples.

Girls flake on me all the time, I'll set generally try to set up 2-4 dates a week and on average at least half of them flake. Its ****ing annoying, and make it difficult to plan out my week, like it doesn't affect me emotionally that the girl flakes but its just a waste of my free time that ****ing annoys me, and the longer in the future the date is its much more likely they will flake. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't, i'm busy and travel a bunch and try to meet and date lots of girls so I have to set up dates further and further in the future to not be stagnant in convos but then lose contact because texting just to text is a mistake.

I def notice myself getting thirsty at times when I'm flaked on too, which I need to work on, had a 2nd date set up to go over to this girls house yesterday (we were def having sex) and she flaked on me. Once I set my mind to something I'm locked in, its great in lots of areas but causes problems in dating since I'm confident enough to push for what I want and have been willing to not take no for an answer my whole life, and girls drop subtle rejections which can't be ignored.

 

[christoff522]

Yeah I do think I've been too outcome dependent here. Need to take a step back!

 

[christoff522]

Well boys you were all spot on. I sent her my number last night so she could give me an OMW text tuesday.. She messages me today saying "tuesday?" I literally called her flaky and told her to get a grip.. Then copied and pasted the original message arranging the date.

Then a so suave classic appeared.. She was on the way hospital and won't be going anywhere.

Honestly her behaviour last couple of days was kinda demonstrative and predictive of what was to come. But I just wanted to once again prove that the collective knowledge of so suave is powerful and wise.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I literally called her flaky and told her to get a grip.. Then copied and pasted the original message arranging the date.

Don't do that next time. It just shows you are upset. It's better if she doesn't know that.

 

[tennisbuck12]

Maximus Rex, was right about my situation a few months ago, you should listen.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Well boys you were all spot on. I sent her my number last night so she could give me an OMW text Tuesday..

You honestly didn't believe that she was going to remember the date, did you?

"I literally called her flaky and told her to get a grip.."

How was doing this suppose to benefit you?

Then copied and pasted the original message arranging the date.

I hope you realize how sorry, sad, and pathetic not only resending the initial message, but the fact that you kept it made it look in her eyes.

But I just wanted to once again prove that the collective knowledge of so suave is powerful and wise.

Not even, it's called experience, bruh.

 

[christoff522]

I literally called her flaky and told her to get a grip.. Then copied and pasted the original message arranging the date.

Don't do that next time. It just shows you are upset. It's better if she doesn't know that.

Don't worry I didn't say it angrily I said it teasingly. To quote "Come on flaky get a grip".

Anyway she did actually go to the hospital for her ankle it was swollen up like a big ball, so I told her we could hang out another time. We won't though. Shes been taking the piss basically for a week. So I won't be talking to her again unless she speaks to me.

All is good, I knew you guys were right all along, I was simply trying to find different angles to get out of it but whatever the situation there are billions of women in the world, one flaking on me (for truthful reasons or not) isn't that important.

To quote Joel Osteen:

Jesus said in John 15:1-2, “My Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch that bears no fruit.” God will take things out of our life that are not productive, not moving us forward. He’ll remove what’s not good for us.

 

[christoff522]

You honestly didn't believe that she was going to remember the date, did you?



How was doing this suppose to benefit you?



I hope you realize how sorry, sad, and pathetic not only resending the initial message, but the fact that you kept it made it look in her eyes.



Not even, it's called experience, bruh.

Well you were right.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Don't worry I didn't say it angrily I said it teasingly. To quote "Come on flaky get a grip".

No you didn't, but anyway, did you say it to her in person?

I told her we could hang out another time.

Why did you say that? How was it suppose to benefit you?

I knew you guys were right all along,

You didn't you thought (for some reason something different would happen.

I was simply trying to find different angles

No, you went into beta mode.

Well you were right.

Rex knows he was right. The question is how was anything you did suppose to benefit you?

 

[christoff522]

No you didn't, but anyway, did you say it to her in person?

via facebook, haven't seen her since friday/

Why did you say that? How was it suppose to benefit you?

it was polite, after all she was injured.

You didn't you thought (for some reason something different would happen.

I did know, I just chose to ignore the facts.

No, you went into beta mode.

alpha/beta is so last decade.

seriously though, you're probably right

Rex knows he was right. The question is how was anything you did suppose to benefit you?

Maybe it wasn't? Maybe my inner child didn't want it to happen and so made sure it didn't.

Anyway, thanks for your honesty and wisdom sir, I appreciate it.

 

[Maximus Rex]

via facebook, haven't seen her since friday/

Same difference. Why did you add a chick that you haven't seen naked to your FB account? Why would you want a stranger knowing intimate details of not only yours, but your relatives and friends personal lives?

it was polite,

How was being polite and being overly concerned about a stranger's well being suppose to benefit you?

after all she was injured.

Had the situation been reserved, would she had did the same? All you succeeded in doing was coming off as a creepy, desperate, needy, beta with stalker tendencies.

I did know, I just chose to ignore the facts.

Even worse.

alpha/beta is so last decade.

As Harry Wilmington so eloquently puts it, two realities can't exist at the same time. Either you're an alpha or a beta.

Anyway, thanks for your honesty and wisdom sir, I appreciate it.

Hey your welcome, but what have learned?