Good Looking Loser "PUA" Video: Cute 18Teen Girl (5 min. asap BOUNCE)

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I just watched GoodLookingLoser's video on: Good Looking Loser "PUA" Video: Cute 18Teen Girl (5 min. asap BOUNCE).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q_DMND6Njs&feature=channel&list=UL

Now while I personally wouldn't go after a much younger chick, Chris is much younger than myself so it's all good and MAYBE some dudes who actually WANT to meet chicks in real life will learn something from it.

The thing I found hilarious is the amount of hate and obvious jealousy he's gotten off that video from (most likely from reading the replies on the BB.com thread) COMMENTERS....who are most likely BB.com posters themselves.

It's almost like dudes don't even want to go out and meet chicks but would rather complain and when they are presented with video proof to show them an idea of what to do they either STILL don't believe it or attempt to bash (creeper/loser/ ugly guy/ no real game/douche/ game sucks etc) the guy who met the chick in his own way and wasn't on some fake azz PUA "Guru" BS.

Some dudes would rather see other dudes fail or at least know the dude they are following is full of sh1t and lie in order to keep themselves in a comfort zone and feel "better" about themselves.

Their BB.com thread on the video itself and comments on the video link remind me of their POF discussion threads. Instead of just doing one funny intro and going into quick small talk and then going for the number and a meet...they'll either just troll fat chicks to put them down, keep asking other dudes how to respond to "outdo" the chick, come off like clowns and even when they get the number wonder why she flakes then post up "epic" pof screen shot conversation failures because after all it's just "fun".

Some dudes either aren't confident in real life and or are completely clueless and secretly love to hate on some other dude showing obvious success.


Edit: (Ran out of posts for the day).

It seems your video shook peoples foundations to the core. Most of the commenters are younger dudes who WANT and NEED to believe chicks they have crushes on or think they "could" get but don't have the balls to would NEVER go for the "old" guy.

You've frightened a lot of keyboard warriors with that video PROOF of the chick leaving with you. In their finsecure little minds "Not only are 18yo's going with the hottest dudes...but OLDER guys too now! I'll NEVER stand a chance!"

So rather than go out and try to meet chicks their age on their own and take it as an example of how someone might do it...They resort to obvious bitter, jealous "rape/creeper/Pedo" nonsense in a weak azz thinly veiled attempt to comfort their own lack of doing anything but consoling each others insecurities by group "shaming" the dude (you) who just showed proof of you doing it.


I'm sure the video would be an even bigger "hit" if you failed and kept them safe and comfy in their "creeper" jammies consoling their fear of the older dudes getting a younger chick.

Now again I personally can't be bothered with a chick younger than mid twenties. IF that. They are just too childlike mentally..some older but..

You might want to try it again with another 18 yo chick and really piss people off and go viral...then again societal mass shaming may have some serious impact on what you're trying to show dudes.
 
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Thanks for posting.

this is apparently one of most controversial videos of all-time. Wow a real video that actually shows an an 18-year old girl being picked up quickly.

It was featured on Reddit (cringe) where I got called a Rapist hundreds of times. I have had over 400 hate mail messages, it takes seconds to delete 180 at a time.

http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/12ynkg/pick_up_artist_seducing_a_teen_girl/

I grab the girls arm because if she lets me... she's down to ****/sexually available. This is not to "get her to like" or "avoid rejection".. this is "revolutionary" not waiting to touch a girl (that already likes me).

The amount of misunderstanding this video creates has shown just how undersexed 90% of our gender is.

The title of the video generated such as huge outcry, I talk about that here-
http://goodlookingloser.com/forums/index.php?topic=840.0

the majority of guys were told to "hate" it before they saw it, and did so accordingly just as a studio audience claps when a sign flashes that says "applause"
 

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great video man.

i learnt a lot in that short little set right there. good to see you stuck with it. most guys wold have pulled out. your hold hands threw out the whole interaction and it was interesting to see when you out your hands closer to you and how she would react.

it's a shame you got some much hate on this video it's a good pick up man. plus te girl looks cute fro what i could see. plus good timing on the kiss.


that's what i posted on youtube.. but it needs comment approval. i think you should just go threw and delete all the " rap" comments. such a waste of time, i mean how did any of the " non pua" crowed get a hold of this.

sure you want the Chodes to change and follow pua ( it's your business model) but it's a relay uphill battle. most people don't want to hear that. there WHOLE BELIEF SYSTEM is wrong. they just can't handle that.

for me, once i seen that first pick up. i KNEW it was possible, i just had to find out if i could do it. turns out ( if i stick it it long enough, i can!)
 
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Edit: (Ran out of posts for the day).
It seems your video shook peoples foundations to the core. Most of the commenters are younger dudes who WANT and NEED to believe chicks they have crushes on or think they "could" get but don't have the balls to would NEVER go for the "old" guy.

You've frightened a lot of keyboard warriors with that video PROOF of the chick leaving with you. In their finsecure little minds "Not only are 18yo's going with the hottest dudes...but OLDER guys too now! I'll NEVER stand a chance!"

So rather than go out and try to meet chicks their age on their own and take it as an example of how someone might do it...They resort to obvious bitter, jealous "rape/creeper/Pedo" nonsense in a weak azz thinly veiled attempt to comfort their own lack of doing anything but consoling each others insecurities by group "shaming" the dude (you) who just showed proof of you doing it.


I'm sure the video would be an even bigger "hit" if you failed and kept them safe and comfy in their "creeper" jammies consoling their fear of the older dudes getting a younger chick.

Now again I personally can't be bothered with a chick younger than mid twenties. IF that. They are just too childlike mentally..some older but..

You might want to try it again with another 18 yo chick and really piss people off and go viral...then again societal mass shaming may have some serious impact on what you're trying to show dudes.
The funny part is all these guys that hate my video don't live in socially competitive cities. In LA girls want to fck MEN 29-34. Hot *****y girls in LA don't go for younger guys unless the guy has some sort of status or is really going looking. They don't assume that guy can fuk them right. We are talking about the hottest girls, generally the ones im after. My videos have pretty hot chicks in them (despite certain people saying everyone is completely disgusting, etc.). haha

It's different in other cities, but something tells me that I'd be okay in Bloomington, Indiana if I can pull Hollywood *****.

That's hilarious to me, being 30 is a plus not a negative with younger girls. They know I can rock them in bed more than the kid in a frat t-shirt and khakis.... call it a hunch
 
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Packers2010 said:
great video man.

i learnt a lot in that short little set right there. good to see you stuck with it. most guys wold have pulled out. your hold hands threw out the whole interaction and it was interesting to see when you out your hands closer to you and how she would react.

it's a shame you got some much hate on this video it's a good pick up man. plus te girl looks cute fro what i could see. plus good timing on the kiss.


that's what i posted on youtube.. but it needs comment approval. i think you should just go threw and delete all the " rap" comments. such a waste of time, i mean how did any of the " non pua" crowed get a hold of this.

sure you want the Chodes to change and follow pua ( it's your business model) but it's a relay uphill battle. most people don't want to hear that. there WHOLE BELIEF SYSTEM is wrong. they just can't handle that.

for me, once i seen that first pick up. i KNEW it was possible, i just had to find out if i could do it. turns out ( if i stick it it long enough, i can!)
absolutely. thank you by the way. I approved your comment and wrote you back. I need Jordy and Randall Cobb to stay healthy!
 

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The funny part is all these guys that hate my video don't live in socially competitive cities. In LA girls want to fck MEN 29-34. Hot *****y girls in LA don't go for younger guys unless the guy has some sort of status or is really going looking. They don't assume that guy can fuk them right. We are talking about the hottest girls, generally the ones im after. My videos have pretty hot chicks in them (despite certain people saying everyone is completely disgusting, etc.). haha

It's different in other cities, but something tells me that I'd be okay in Bloomington, Indiana if I can pull Hollywood *****.

That's hilarious to me, being 30 is a plus not a negative with younger girls. They know I can rock them in bed more than the kid in a frat t-shirt and khakis.... call it a hunch
The young guys try to play the old guy creeper card constantly here in Ohio. Funny thing is the same guys are on POF trying to hook up with women as old as late 40's. It's ok for a 40-something woman to hook up with an 18 year old but not for a male to do the same according to them lol.

Funny you should mention Bloomington Indiana which is basically a small college town around Indiana University. I was there for a week gaming at the bars there a few years back, and I never seen guys so frustrated and basically fighting over girls. I saw this one kid cold knock out another guy in front of me. I almost got into a fight myself with some young "returning Iraqi veteran". It just seemed like such a frustrated male place even though there were lots of young college girls. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the negative comments weren't coming from dudes in the midwest.

All I ever hear around here is that guy or this guy is a creeper. And young girls always ask my age that I approach at the bars, or I might here young guys saying "how old is that guy". It seems guys around here spend as much or more time in effort preventing other guys from getting laid than they do trying to get laid themselves. When I was visting back in Texas and in Austin or out west I never heard the word creepy said once nor was asked my age.

I do have one question. How did you know the girl was at least 18? i know age of consent may be 16 in a given but they'll still sting you for foloing around with a minor if they aren't at least 18. If I saw a girl that looked that young around in in my suburb in a day game approach the odds are she would be a high schooler.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
The young guys try to play the old guy creeper card constantly here in Ohio.
I actually, finally, registered to respond to this....I absorbed this site and these forums for about a year about 5 or 6 years ago....just returned a couple of weeks ago. Not sure I dig this nick but I'll see how it goes. lol I'm an older fella myself at 42 and reading thru some of the comments has inspired me to share some thoughts and anecdotes.

After years of running into this in various forms, I've concluded it's total unadulterated jealousy, plain and simple. Think of everytime you've been jealous over a girl in some way and were even remotely AFC about it and I bet what you have been capable of in the past makes you cringe, sometimes. I know I do.

Jealousy is an unbecoming emotion on most men and it has a way of making us little b****es....And that's why you have guys acting like b****es when confronted with competition from older guys....they cry foul, trickery, rape!, blah, blah. It's because they have to know, consciously or not, that a fratboy still in school represents absolutely zero competition for the same guy 5-10 years older in the real world (at least among girls that like older guys....many don't and that's cool too) and they just aren't prepared to handle it in a sporting manner, apparently. When I was young I think I grasped it on a level, but I looked down on it, thought it was weird, not right, blah blah.....Just doesn't compute. LOL Kind of like that moment a woman you aren't interested in offers you sex and you decline. The brain just doesn't process well past that point because the "universally expected norms" just went out the window.

And like women will do when they have nothing else, they want to try to SHAME you off of your successful position. Because there just is nothing else they can do but try to cut you off at the knees in some underhanded way. College guys grow on trees at colleges and they all think they are the SHIZ. I know I did. And most of them think they are the shiz for the same predictable reasons. Ditto here on that, too. It never once ever computed for any of us that ALL women weren't interested in guys in our age group. We thought we were in our prime at that age...being over 25 a fate worse than death.....yet the rest of the world sees that age group as overglorified high school kids....Including a lot of the girls. My sister literally stopped dating other students except for big events after her freshman year because she, even at age 20, thought they were all children and not worth her time. The novelty of vomiting in the stadium wears off a bit (lot) earlier for them. Even being several years older than her, I just thought she was trying to get attention by being different or something at the time. It just does not compute when you are a guy that age. Older guys who have success with younger women MUST be doing something "wrong" or using some sort of "trickery" because, to young men, young women shouldn't want anyone but them. Unfortunately, like many things young men, or young people in general, assume, it just isn't the case in the real world.

Anecdotes....

I went to a large state school with an old and massive greek system...sororities on that campus kick out miss americas, literally. These girls are hot and you would think you were in NYC with the sense of entitlement on them. Took a 1 hour military science elective from the ROTC program, which pretty much every one did. There's a day you get to shoot an M16. The day we went to shoot, my buddy and I laughed at the cheeze-d**k instructors "hitting on" these sorority girls afterwards. Those hot but silly girls from the best sororities on campus (nation) just stood there and giggled while these buff, 28-35 year old army captains blatantly hit on them like dirty old men, blah, blah.....that's how we saw it. When I looked back on it 10 years later, those guys were just flirting.....Those girls were putty. Deer in headlights putty. Our 22 year old frat boy brains just didn't allow for that possibility, but there it was right in front of us.

Went back to visit when I was like 2 years out of school....If that....was about 25 at the time....Not like im old. I was hanging out with this girl that I knew since I was in school, and I'm getting stink eye from this whole crew of guys. One finally comes over to say hello and, when she goes to the can he, with the look and tone of a total b***h-boy says something to me like "You're a good bit older, aren't you?" and walks off. lol

When I was about 35 I was back for a reunion. Went to a crowded campus bar with some old friends for old times sake and I was about to light a smoke when a very attractive young lady comes up and asks me for one. By all means, and a conversation ensues. I chatted for a few and got back to my friends, but as I'm doing so, I notice, literally one whole side of the bar, AFC frat guys, no women with them, all giving me eat shyte looks. I just talked to a girl who asked me for a smoke. lol

A few years ago, I was in a relationship with a young woman 18 years my junior for several years. I was travelling once and randomly met some groomsmen and the father of a bride at a bar I was hanging out at. Get to chatting, the guys daughter, who he just gave away, is the same age as my girlfriend at the time. And I'm about a year younger than him. I mention my situation....Surprisingly the groomsmen at that age thought it was pretty cool....The dad, not so much. This is really funny to me, because in the time we were together, I got stinkeye from a woman our age ONCE. Thats it. Women, suprisingly can wrap thier brains around age differences a lot better than we can, apparently. It's ALWAYS either guys her age, or my age that have the problem. What's really funny is I kind of got the impression from this guy that his particular beef was rooted in some kind of a "I married my college sweetheart who is now fat, saggy, and high maintenence, worked my tail off for her and those brats for 25 years so I could make a woman I'm not attracted to anymore happy, and this a$$hole has been having the time of his life this whole time." He was taking a holier than thou stance, but I could see the raw jealousy in his eyes. LOL

A guy I know from work is my age...42....started dating a 19 year old seriously about a year ago. Turns out we have a mutal friend....a buddy of mine who is around 30. Ran into him and mentioned we knew the same guy. He rolls his eyes and says hes not frinds with him, he's friends with her. I inquire.....Long story short....My buddy does not approve of this 19 year old with a 42 year old. Too much of an age difference, he says, indignantly. When asked if he, at 30 or 31 is too old, and he doesn't think he is. LOL

If I keep typing I'll think of more so I'll stop there. Sorry for the length of for my first post. But this has been coming up a lot lately so just had to toss my 2 cents in.

Great to be aboard, btw. :)
 
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Sorry....I ramble....but I have to add this one...

I have a particular kinky interest that sometimes has people meeting online for play. A woman I know who is just getting started has been seeking a partner in her local area. She connected with a 38 year old guy with similar interests (she is 45) and chatted a bit....they wind up hitting it off and deciding to meet.

She gets there and the "38 year old" is more like 22. This kid bold faced thought he was going to either be able to pass for 38 with "his manlyness" as she put it, or when found out thought he was going to be able to charm his way through it. She, essentially, patted him on the head.

I add this, because THIS is the mentality you are dealing with when these kids call you a dirty old man, etc. They feel entitled or something. And they don't want to see it at all, but there are LOTS of girls their age who want to pat them on the heads, too.

Personally, I am of the opinion that THE age to be for a guy is in the 28-38 age range. Any younger, they expect retardation of some kind, just like we do...Older is getting, well, older. I'm happy being single again at my age, still....I still pass for 32-35 with pretty much everyone personally, but I don't lie about my age and being over 40 is a problem for some....Not something I had to deal with last time I was single in my late 30s. But it is what it is. I would rather be on this side than the other, personally, at this point. Since my breakup last year I've been dating in the 27-34 age range and it's been the smoothest period of dating in my life. Lots of thanks to these forums too.
 
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I like this handhold technique. Not sure if I could pull it off from the jump in day game, but I've been using it with success during the night.
 
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I like this handhold technique. Not sure if I could pull it off from the jump in day game, but I've been using it with success during the night.
but you can.

when you introduce your "Hey IM N&I" shake her hand and HOLD IT

if shes sexually available/DTF.. she'll let you if not she wont (in general)

then you go do it to the next girl
 

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Mad props. GLL completely dismantled her "You're a player" sh!t test. That was the deal maker, right there.

So what'd you do with her after you left? Did you bang her?

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Mad props. GLL completely dismantled her "You're a player" sh!t test. That was the deal maker, right there.

So what'd you do with her after you left? Did you bang her?

-Scars
Bro- you are like the ONLY person to see that. you're a player..
well prob. not the only person, but you are the 1st to mention it

she was so quiet when she said it "youre a player" i literally didnt hear her.. so I said "youre a player?".. then i just kept repeating it

the people on reddit are saying "youre a player," "youre moms a player,"etc. I have a conversational skills of a 5th grader... its called flirting and jokes, you guys know.

the funniest explaination I've heard is "the girl got in your car cause you scared her."
http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/12ynkg/pick_up_artist_seducing_a_teen_girl/

i speak like a douchebag because I am, the "intelligent scientist" or 'grad school professor" persona isn't usually effective too at this haha

i know it sounds ****1n lame, but my lawyer doesnt want me to provide any details, but you wouldn't be probably assuming correctly
 

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ive spent well over $1000 going to a lawyer to find out the actual laws surround REAL videos and intrusion upon seclusion (right to privacy) and consent
here's what I know (not legal advice)-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VKs1Mz2NYc
We're supposed to believe you'd never hire an actress, but you hired an attorney and spent over $1,000 in fees. :crackup: :crackup:
 

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Good video and of course you're going to get hate for it because a lot of guys can't pull this off.

2 question I'm genuinely curious about:

1) How much did you practice this style of approach? Basically cold approaching. I did it when I first started learning about game, but quickly stopped once I got some success and just wasn't that comfortable with it (though if I stuck with it longer I'm sure that would change). I have this idea in my head that women should 'approach' (show subtle interest in) me first and so I've aligned my jobs to a point where I can make money, deal with attractive women regularly, and basically be in a higher position by default. Even when I go to bars I usually check to see which girls have checked me out and go from there, so I personally don't go in 'cold'. Well done.

2) How many girls have you fvcked? Not in the e-peen sense, but quantity + quality is reflective of expertise and fine tuning in communication. I found that the more I roll through, the less of a 'big deal' it becomes and the more I take the close for granted, or 'assuming the sale'.

2 main points to take from the video for those curious:

a) Congruency with persona aka being comfortable with yourself as a 'db'.

b) Kino is king.
 

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Scars said:
Mad props. GLL completely dismantled her "You're a player" sh!t test. That was the deal maker, right there.


-Scars
I think standard PUA docterine says to agree with a girl sh!t testing and even amplify or to twist it in a C+F manner, so "yeah I'm a player. I'm the biggest player ever!" or "Yeah I play baseball, basketball.." etc. Or that's what I think PUA sh!t says, but I don't read PUA and haven't in years.

I guess GLL telling her, "your mom is a player" could be classified as C+F.

Also PUA docterine usually would instruct to not tell a girl "I love you, I love you" or at least indirect PUA game wouldn't. Also not to tell a girl she's attractive. But PUA is contradictory and recommends and discourages anything and everything.

Just goes to show PUA and "game" is mostly mental masturbation bullsh!t and marketing baloney.

There's not really such a thing as game. Just looks and appearance, being bold, conversing and escalating and a number's game.


Anyway when the girl said, "You're a player" in this context she might as well have said "you're a stud that's going to fukk me". PUA has it half right, it would be a mistake to have denied it outright, be apologetic or to pull back on escalation. That would've been the wrong answer to her "sh!t test". But it's not like you need some precise perfect answer and with PUA throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, of course some of it will be correct some of the time.
 
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We're supposed to believe you'd never hire an actress, but you hired an attorney and spent over $1,000 in fees. :crackup: :crackup:
im not poor (sorry if that upsets you too), GLL.com makes good money, im also not an idiot- so I hire a lawyer so he can tell me where I can/can't shoot these without having to give release forms. I dont hire actresses because I can actually get girls it has nothing do with not affording it.

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Good video and of course you're going to get hate for it because a lot of guys can't pull this off.

2 question I'm genuinely curious about:

1) How much did you practice this style of approach? Basically cold approaching. I did it when I first started learning about game, but quickly stopped once I got some success and just wasn't that comfortable with it (though if I stuck with it longer I'm sure that would change). I have this idea in my head that women should 'approach' (show subtle interest in) me first and so I've aligned my jobs to a point where I can make money, deal with attractive women regularly, and basically be in a higher position by default. Even when I go to bars I usually check to see which girls have checked me out and go from there, so I personally don't go in 'cold'. Well done.

2) How many girls have you fvcked? Not in the e-peen sense, but quantity + quality is reflective of expertise and fine tuning in communication. I found that the more I roll through, the less of a 'big deal' it becomes and the more I take the close for granted, or 'assuming the sale'.

2 main points to take from the video for those curious:

a) Congruency with persona aka being comfortable with yourself as a 'db'.

b) Kino is king.
guess I'm up to my 10posts a day... so I gotta combine it in this response,

1) There's so much to say about this, I've done this "talk to random girls" thing since 2007, hardcore from 2008-2010.5, I only had a part-time job and that all I did was try to Get LAid. I did the mainstream Mystery Method, DeAngelo stuff at the start, average results but mainly cause I was a huge *****. I moved on to the BradP stuff and that was better, from there I learned the concept of screening, sexual availability, numbers game on my own and with a little help from Scotty (the other douchebag on GLL)

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/04/21/screening-game/
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/07/05/getting-girls-is-a-numbers-game/

Our stuff is different the most stuff, its solely focus on getting laid... nothing whatsoever with "make her like you" "never get rejected!" "be smooth".. if that happens in the process, great.. but that not the goal-- the goal is to Fuk the girl GET LAID. Hence, the fairly aggressive approaches. So I've does this stuff, along the lines of what u see in the video since end of 2008... start of 2009 is when it started making sense to me. I used to do the other stuff, it would land me 1-2girls a month, and I was pretty good at it (opinion openers, little sister, teasing, verbal verbal verbal) it was a waste of time cause the girl already liked me and im standing there spitting game.. I see this with so many guys. "Does this girl like me?" YES SHE IS STANDING THERE TALKING TO YOU. guys are playing text game with girls that already want to meet up

2) I try to go after the hottest chicks in LA, elsewhere.. but I also have cool social circles and even did the internet thing to supplement it... multiple streams of ***** I recommend everyone do and get, it kills your neediness big time. your results with aggressive game will erupt when u get 2-3****buddies and literally do not give **** what non-receptive girls or people think because u are already getting laid a lot.
# of chicks off cold approach?? in the past 3.5years, id say 115. but only 2 of those years did I really know what I was doing, Hollywood club social circle (after parties) is my choice of what I actually like to do because it requires a lot less effort (numbers)

one of the big things I was told (i hardly internalized it at the time was in '08) where Jake P told me "be that douchebag" (or run from it)... it was about 2years from that point till I really got it down and got great results... but I agree with you on that.. I hear at least 5 times a day that im a douchebag so its basically music to my ears

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it's starting to sound like she is suing you, all because your video went viral.
nah def. not she was over here on Sunday afternoon, its all good,.. the "can't talk" isn't based on this particular girl haha.. just where the JD and I decided to draw the line. I don't mind taking risks (such as filming this stuff in the 1st place) but gotta be smart... theres nothing to sue me over, the location in the video is part of the public domain, which is subject one-party consent video/audio recording.


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GLL, could you address my question of how do you know she was at least 18 years old before going in and escalating? If I saw a teen girl out in public here odds are she might be over age 16 but would be an under the age of 18 High school girl. Now I don't personally see 16 or 17 too young, but I know that the opressive law can still get you for physical contact with a minor even if she is over 16 and the age of consent.

The way I understand it is even if the girl is over 16 but is under 18 you really can't do anything more than talk to her without risking legal problems. Even if she lies and tells you she's 18 they can still get you. That's why I pass when I see a young girl that I have no way of knowing that she is over 18. Well I used to ask if they are in HS or if they go to the university, and assume that was pretty good guarantee of them being over 18. I really don't approach very young girls too much because of the resistance in society in general to older guys.

I'm not asking you to prove the girl in this situation was over 18. I'm just wondering what your thoughts on it were in general.
Hey Stagger-- When I did this approach I had no idea if she was/wasn't 18. I shoot first and ask questions later.

if it comes time to pull the trigger or come home whatever... you can say, "lets go have a drink, i can make this awesome drink, oh wait-- I can't give it to you because you aren't 21. That would be wrong." Girl laughs, and saying something. "Oh yeah, I don't know, when do you turn 21/or how old are you?" They'll answer... Or something like "whens your birthday, my bday was last month." she'll answer and you just ask how old she's gonna be and if shes invite you to show you off to all her little friends or something.

In this case, I wasn't worried because she told me that she had already done 2-semesters of school at a 4-year university.

You can even ask for ID, who cares, you know- the girl likes you, if shes willing to hop in your car, you can ask/say whatever u want. (some people may not realize this, you prob do though) young girls just shut up and listen and follow anyway.. that's how they want it. I haven't ever done asked for ID though, I dont know maybe thats stupid but this stuff honestly doesn't cross my mind in the moment. She looked slight young than the majority of girls I end up with usually (19-23).

I don't think guys should worry about this and talk themselves out of speaking to girl, I've seen that before. It's that "creative avoidance" thing, a form of Approach anxiety. I've approached tens of thousands of girls and I've never been physically attacked by a boyfriend/family member or anything. I've never been accused of sexual harrassment, but you know what... if I did get in a fight/locked up for the night.. I wouldn't change ****. I'm willing to get in a fight/arrested, its not a big deal in grand scheme of things, living a lonely sexless life is.. to me. Cause I spent my early 20s as an incel, well.. for the most part. underachieving. I never plan for the .01% chance, and if it happens, I accept it and deal with it and change nothing.

I kinda discuss this .01% thing here and why its the last thing on my mind (when years ago, I was prepare for it)
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/05/07/dont-be-reactive/

It took me 4+ years to understand and develop (realize) this super quick stuff where I can get laid at least every other day if I have the logistics handled (ie a place to take a girl within 5-10min) and enough girls to hit on 0-30 probably will do it.. I'm not watering that down, just doing this stuff with a smile on your face is disarming enough. I usually try to flash some sort of non-verbal pre-approach warm opener.. smile, lock eyes, wink, wave, something.. but not necessarily... like on this one, its a little less physical at first though
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/10/12/pickup-girls-video-7/
 
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Stagger Lee said:
I think standard PUA docterine says to agree with a girl sh!t testing and even amplify or to twist it in a C+F manner, so "yeah I'm a player. I'm the biggest player ever!" or "Yeah I play baseball, basketball.." etc. Or that's what I think PUA sh!t says, but I don't read PUA and haven't in years.

I guess GLL telling her, "your mom is a player" could be classified as C+F.

Also PUA docterine usually would instruct to not tell a girl "I love you, I love you" or at least indirect PUA game wouldn't. Also not to tell a girl she's attractive. But PUA is contradictory and recommends and discourages anything and everything.

Just goes to show PUA and "game" is mostly mental masturbation bullsh!t and marketing baloney.

There's not really such a thing as game. Just looks and appearance, being bold, conversing and escalating and a number's game.


Anyway when the girl said, "You're a player" in this context she might as well have said "you're a stud that's going to fukk me". PUA has it half right, it would be a mistake to have denied it outright, be apologetic or to pull back on escalation. That would've been the wrong answer to her "sh!t test". But it's not like you need some precise perfect answer and with PUA throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, of course some of it will be correct some of the time.
I'll just go with my instinct then, not trying to get you in legal trouble. That sucks though, it's starting to sound like she is suing you, all because your video went viral.

I remember my quickest lay. A girl introduced me to her friend and the girl said "This is Scars. He's probably going to try to have sex with you tonight." So I shook her friends hand I and said, "Hi, I'm Scars, and I'm going to have sex with you tonight." Ballsiest sh!t I ever said at the time, (Was probably only 19). Got her a lone and we talked, got to know each other. Then I asked her if she wanted to go up stairs and "watch TV with me". Short story even shorter, I smashed this girl about 45 mins after meeting her.

-Scars
 

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GLL, could you address my question of how do you know she was at least 18 years old before going in and escalating? If I saw a teen girl out in public here odds are she might be over age 16 but would be an under the age of 18 High school girl. Now I don't personally see 16 or 17 too young, but I know that the opressive law can still get you for physical contact with a minor even if she is over 16 and the age of consent.

The way I understand it is even if the girl is over 16 but is under 18 you really can't do anything more than talk to her without risking legal problems. Even if she lies and tells you she's 18 they can still get you. That's why I pass when I see a young girl that I have no way of knowing that she is over 18. Well I used to ask if they are in HS or if they go to the university, and assume that was pretty good guarantee of them being over 18. I really don't approach very young girls too much because of the resistance in society in general to older guys.

I'm not asking you to prove the girl in this situation was over 18. I'm just wondering what your thoughts on it were in general.
 

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First off , GLL love your stuff

I used your guide to setting up a POF and It alone has gotten me a couple good lays , and I love the quick dismantlement of the **** test , not opten you get to see that , very valuable

Right when you mentioned hearing douche bag daily i couldn't help but think of this video XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw1ncADC9KM

Its almost like it was made by all your haters XD , the term douche-bag has changed for me completely , its mainly used but jealous people anymore.

Id be a douche-bag getting laid over a lame white knight afc chump any day
 
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