good example of female rationalization

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfYMfvS_ziM

ok, short synposis. from big brother on cbs. girl and guy have been together for 10 months and are now on the show. part of the show is that you are teamed with someone else. the girl was teamed with a black guy, the guy teamed with another white woman.

girl says to other houseguests that she thinks her boyfriend is upset that she was teamed with a black man because he doesn't approve of interacial dating.

boyfriend gets p*ssed because she made him look like a racist on a tv show watched by millions.

the argument between them is interesting to watch, because its very much how things often go down in the real world.

notice how she takes no accountability and how she keeps playing it off like his concerns are unfounded. when that doesn't work she starts asking for things like hugs and a kiss etc.

while she talks talks talks, she takes no accountability for her actions. when a woman does this you are dealing with a woman who has very bad long term potential.

now, he at least stands up for himself, so he's not an AFC. but at the same time, he caves to her tactics. so in essence he pouts.

now, he can't leave the house, so that may be affecting his reaction to her, and he knows hes on tv.

but anyway, a lot of women react the way she does here when they've done something wrong. they try to just talk their way out of it without every really acknowledging that what they did was wrong.
 

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Most infuriating:

Women who skillfully pull the blinders over their own eyes even
and seriously are clueless to their own misbehavior(s).

There is nothing you can do in such a situation except walk
away, FAR away.

I've known too many women who have this shyt down pat.
"Oh, I farted? I didn't know that hee hee..."
 

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This is the type of little girl all DJ's need to avoid when seeking a healthy LTR.

Seek a mature caring woman not a little girl that can't take responsibility for her negative extremely damaging actions.
 

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Joekerr excellent analysis. Notice how she publically shames him in front of a very wide audience.
 

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Some favorite defenses from women when they are called on their disloyalty to their man-

" You don't understand , BABE" ( You are an inbicile )

"HOw could you think that of me *( you are a TOTAL imbicile)

" I did not mean anything by it " ( I an innocent because I am a woman)

" You are too sensitive" ( YOu are emotionally immature)

" Mt INTENTIONS were good" ( You have caught me out and I am gonna try and lie my way out of this by painting myself as noble )

"Nobody thinks badly of you " ( They do think that you are an a$$hole, but I don't want you to blame me for backstabbing you )

And so the list of female gibberish goes on and on...
 

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jophil28 said:
And so the list of female gibberish goes on and on...

"don't tell me im a bad person. i say a lot of things where i don't think about the consequences" (I'm a woman, i get to say whatever the hell I want. i can't believe you don't understand this. don't hold me responsible for anything i do.)
 

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What I've seen repeatedly is if a male holds a woman responsible for her poor actions and behavior, she'll dislike him (literally lose interest in him), and run like hell..away from him and her accountability. She'll also tell everyone how he was an a-hole, jerk, gay, etc. It's basically the tactics of avoiding judgement and responsibility by stifling criticism via boycott.
 

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ketostix said:
What I've seen repeatedly is if a male holds a woman responsible for her poor actions and behavior, she'll dislike him (literally lose interest in him), and run like hell..away from him and her accountability. She'll also tell everyone how he was an a-hole, jerk, gay, etc. It's basically the tactics of avoiding judgement and responsibility by stifling criticism via boycott.

which is why the key is not to do what this guy did - which was criticize and pout.

the key is to use basic behavior conditioning techniques. which means you withdraw. you take away the one thing she cares about - attention.

you don't have to tell her what she did that was wrong - she knows.

but ultimately, the most important thing to remember, is simply to cut loose of these types of women early. the longer you stay, the more invested you get, and the harder it becomes to cut your losses.

now check this out. there is another chic in the house who ends up defending the guy (she likes him)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8kH...at=&Board=BBMedia&Number=7905363&page=1&view=

gotta love how when a woman is IN to a guy she will jump to his defense, even though she has probably done the exact same sh*t as the other woman to guys herself.
 

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The guy responded wrong. It's natural to assume women will not accept accountability. This is why they must be DIRECTED.

The convo should have went more like this,

Him- Do not ever put me out there again. Understood?

When a woman is properly guided and directed KNOWING your boundaries, ACCIDENTS happen less often.

You have to accept women as they are. Roll with the punches and DIRECT.

A woman with HIGH IL will always RESPECT your boundaries.

A woman with LOW IL will not respect. This is why I only open the door to a woman who has repeatedly SHOWN high IL through action.
 

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It's just my humble opinion, but had the girl been a male friend, I don't think he would have bowed his head and humbly apologized for his mistake on national TV, any more than the woman did.

Human beings get DEFENSIVE when you accuse them of screwing up. A guy would have also rationalized this, but maybe a little more aggressively. "It's ain't MY fault they took it out of context and think you're a racist." If pressed, it would have become "well maybe you shouldn't be so racist, DOUCHE!"

This isn't such a good an example of female rationalization, but rather an example of human rationalization.
 

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Phyzzle said:
This isn't such a good an example of female rationalization, but rather an example of human rationalization.
i gotta agree with phyzzle on this one.
 

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I'm with you Joe.

She definitely threw him under the bus. A guy friend might have gotten defensive at first, but if he was a DECENT person all it would take is about 3 minutes to realize that what he said was fukked up and sincerely apologized.

I can't remember when I have had a woman SINCERELY apologize to me. You will hardly ever get a genuine apology from a woman. You MIGHT get a half assed "I'm sorry" if you threaten to take away intimacy, but hardly ever will a woman fess up and take the high road.
 

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there is another chic in the house who ends up defending the guy (she likes him)
That's the key, isn't it? The first woman, though his girlfriend, doesn't really love him (and love is based on respect, so she doesn't respect him either) so she really couldn't be bothered with the fact that she was shaming him in public.

The convo should have went more like this,

Him- Do not ever put me out there again. Understood?
I'd agree that you have to let them know where the line is, firmly, but the way that's put can make the guy sound uptight talking like that and I don't think that's so cool either.

Anyway, their whole conversation about it was mishandled on his part. There's no winning arguing about it for a guy. As Joekerr pointed out, a woman will dodge and spin it and shift blame and so there is NO argument about it. All that happens is that the guy will scold or yak and piss and moan until something slips out of his mouth that she will forever hold against him and bring up from time to time forever more.

He should've just told her it's over.

Which he eventually does, too late, but, ah, when he said, "we're done", did you see how she reacted? She told him "no, we're not going to let this interfere" and ordered him back in, and he permitted himself to be ordered back into her web. He should've kept walking. He lost. He'll always lose with her, right up to the day she dumps him.

"I love you" she says now, but she knew how she was making him look on national TV. That wasn't loving. Oh I love you so much that I'll embarrass on national television and paint you as a racist! Ah, love.

"I don't even know what the word 'prejudice' means" she says. And he stays there after being blatantly bullsh1tted by her. Ugh.

That's as far as I care to watch immature adults go about things. Life's too short. Besides, I prefer watching Judge Judy better because she bluntly tells them they're idiots.
 

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KontrollerX said:
This is the type of little girl all DJ's need to avoid when seeking a healthy LTR.

Seek a mature caring woman
DJ's DON'T SEEK LTR. AFC's and women do.

joekerr31 said:
boyfriend gets p*ssed because she made him look like a racist on a tv show watched by millions.
If he wasn't a racist he wouldn't be in the position he's in, now would he ??? She didn't make him out to be anything that he wasn't already. He got what he deserved..I honestly don't even mind the fact that she brought it up. Since when did you guys have sympathy for racists ?

Your example of female rationale is WEAK...now if you had mentioned female manipulation that would have been better.

joekerr31 said:
now, he at least stands up for himself, so he's not an AFC. but at the same time, he caves to her tactics.
isn't this a bit of a contradiction ?
 

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Why is he racist because he does not agree with inter racial relationships? Unfortunatly, people are given labels for having a viewpoint that may be justifiable, even though they may not be PC.

If it was a big deal to her, she should have raised the issue with him, not try and drag his name through the mud.
 

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I had a date with a girl. i was kinda bored at the end and wanted to go home. Her stories about her previous relationships totally turned me off. Stories of abuse, victimization, neglect and raw sex (yeah really).
She walked me home and was obviously waiting for me to ask her in. I told her I could do that but that I didn't feel like it, for now.
The message was pretty clear and I was pride of myself for rejecting ***** and being mature.

The day after I received a message from her. And it went like this: 'When I told you I didn't feel like going to your appartment with you today, I really meant 'really not' (impossible to translate properly) today. I like you better as a friend.'

That day a lot of things dawned on me. I understood I had no responsibility towards womens feelings or their perception of reality, as they held no accountability to their own and mine.
 

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ketostix said:
What I've seen repeatedly is if a male holds a woman responsible for her poor actions and behavior, she'll dislike him (literally lose interest in him), and run like hell..away from him and her accountability. She'll also tell everyone how he was an a-hole, jerk, gay, etc. It's basically the tactics of avoiding judgement and responsibility by stifling criticism via boycott.
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