Well, I'm not very experienced and my main goal on the outside was just try to get better. Unfortunately it seems it'll be easier for me to work on single girls for now because psychologically it helps me a bit because I know they're open to me. I mean, I guess you could say she kept wanting to see me because she wanted me to take her, but she also could have been doing it because she wanted to keep hanging out as friends. I don't know, it just seemed too much to deduce and it felt like it would have been better to focus on single girls for now.Poop1337 said:
Going on "dates" but she has a boyfriend
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She paid for her own stuff. Why? No way I'm paying if I don't even know what's up.Robert28 said:Question. When ya'll went out, who paid? I mean did she pay for her own stuff or expect you to pay or you offered to pay and she let you or what?
I find it is to our own advantage to keep girls around. Sometimes I feel the negative objectification of woman here can reach a breaking point but they do have their pro's also. First off - you are expanding your social circle. If you become close enough while not invested, you get invited to parties where you meet more woman etc etc. Secondly they provide a really good buffer when you break up with an ex until you can find plates to spin. Thirdly if you play your cards right, you can be 'that' friend she'd hook up with when drunk - no strings attached.
Friend zone is only a negative connotation attached to a stigma men initially put themselves in. Don't burn bridges, build them.
Friend zone is only a negative connotation attached to a stigma men initially put themselves in. Don't burn bridges, build them.
Well if she's paying for herself everytime then I wouldn't next her....yet. That doesn't mean don't pursue other girls, do that! Call her up and just say you were having a rough day the day you told her you couldn't be friends with her. DONT APOLOGIZE THOUGH! Just be like "About what I told you the other day, I was having a rough day and had a lot going on. We can go do something sometime if you still want to." You aren't admitting you were wrong, and you aren't accepting her offer of being a friend.Siragoos said:She paid for her own stuff. Why? No way I'm paying if I don't even know what's up.
Next time you do go out with her, look at other girls. Make it obvious you're looking at other girls. Jealousy is a drug to women. It stirs emotions in them like you wouldn't believe. You might not think you can make her jealous, but you can, easily. Then once you see she's jealous, try some kino again. This time maybe she will finally reciprocate.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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Couple things, in the past I have tried to instill some jealousy by making it known I couldn't meet up with her because I had a "date" or I couldn't see such-and-such movie because i was seeing it with someone else. but that didn't make her seem jealous. She seemed happy for me actually.Robert28 said:Well if she's paying for herself everytime then I wouldn't next her....yet. That doesn't mean don't pursue other girls, do that! Call her up and just say you were having a rough day the day you told her you couldn't be friends with her. DONT APOLOGIZE THOUGH! Just be like "About what I told you the other day, I was having a rough day and had a lot going on. We can go do something sometime if you still want to." You aren't admitting you were wrong, and you aren't accepting her offer of being a friend.
Next time you do go out with her, look at other girls. Make it obvious you're looking at other girls. Jealousy is a drug to women. It stirs emotions in them like you wouldn't believe. You might not think you can make her jealous, but you can, easily. Then once you see she's jealous, try some kino again. This time maybe she will finally reciprocate.
Now, here's the thing. It's been 6 weeks or so since I told her that. Wouldn't calling her up now and tell her that show that I've been doing nothing but dwelling on that when I should've been out talking to other women?
Also, I don't know if I mentioned this above or not, but after I told her that, we had plans to initially go somewhere that we had tickets for. Near that day, I told her (remember, this is after I told her the friends thing) she should still go. She acted all confused and hurt about the friends thing, but said that she'll go. Then she flaked. Haven't heard from her since, so I don't know if I should be the one to break the silence. Seems like ball would be in her court? Then again, I did say the whole friends thing.
I like where you're going with this, though. Enough time has probably passed where she won't deny me out of anger. And if she does, well, that means she didn't really want to be friends in the first place.