Going on a HB9 ride, anyone wana join?

[Alexandar]

Hey guys,

First off, its a pleasure..
Im a long time lurker and Ive found the info from these forums priceless over the years, obviously
Cant thank all those good posters enough!

Im 29 now still single and Ive got quite the curious little HB9 hangin off me out of nowhere.
Now, although this is the hottest girl ive ever gamed, im not too flustered or anything haha

Im comfortable around women by nature, and Ive found that grasping and practicing the info i grasped from these forums has also come relatively natural to me

I wouldnt say im a natural alpha, but i have a healthy load of self confidence, energy, and drive, and it doesnt hurt im handsome

On the topic of being handsome, I feel it can be quite the little bit ch of a curse..

I cant count how many times a HB wouldnt. phuck me because she wanted to date me.

Which brings me to this story, I met her at the casino playing poker. Im an avid serious poker player, have been since 2009, and i originally posted my encounter with her along with my poker rungood in the poker forum, 2+2.

Ill link you guys to the thread, please check it out (i assure you its pretty hilarious) and tell me what you think. I posted some text messages there too.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/greyhounds-ftw-1537525/

and the girl (these pics are discussed ITT and confirmed real)


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/540/83Sg67.jpg



and her sis

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320xq90/r/537/cAh38n.jpg


please let me know, should i repost the details of the pick up here?
Cliffs: she kept talking about her 'boyfriends' and thats why shes there to pick up boyfriends and said i was on her bf list
i told her if thats true she needs to take my #, she did
and started txting me instantly
I thought shes an AW first but she seems super smart and interested, although goofy
I told her straight up i just wana phuck her, she ate it up, says she respects my honesty etc
Claims she wants to date me though, tired of casual sex...
Has had 2 bfs in 6 years (shes 23) and each relationship ended after 2 years when they proposed... lol
says im a breath of fresh air from her usual beta orbiters (she literally has dozens of them, bringing her flowers n candy at the casino, its epic, she tells. me about all of them, theyre all stuck in friendzone, me and her laugh about it...she has thousands of followers on instagram... you guys getsl the picture rite???)

Gonna need advice n support,

mad luv

 

[Alexandar]

Alright so,

where do i start. can someone tell me what sort of girl this sounds like to you and what should i expect? just from the cliffs I posted up there?

I actually had some random 2+2 poster PM me today and tell me he got bad energy readings from her pic and to stay away LOL?

I was like, i dont need energy readings to infer that much, and i used an example to him where in a text she said she hates it when people use the word weird, right after she used it, but said its ok for her to use it that doesnt make her disgusted, only when others use it..... is this chik mental or phucking around?
i ripped her apart for it, told her she lives in her own world and shes on drugs, she just said ok. lol

she also repeatedly talks about all the guys she hangs out with that eat out of her palm and says she respects me for telling how it is (i told her straight up i just wana phuck her, crucial mistake, actions over words, she even said that to me lol) but i think shes just phucking around even with that

she tried to get me to phone her instead of texting, i just said yea sometime, and never did, and she kept texting back viguriously so, for whatever thats worth

she says she does have a few fwb's but is tired of casual sex and wants to date me, and this where i fked up...
at first i passed this obvious sh!t test and said no, then of course she kept pressuring etc etc
and I hadnt realized at the time this was obv a test, i was just being myself when i said no, cuz I just wanted to phuck her

then Im like maybe i COULD date her and started warming up to the idea, and Im sure this was a crucial mistake obv

anyways she said to me yesterday are you sure you get laid a lot cuz you dont strike me as the type, im like why not, she says i talk about sex too much, i recovered well unphased, saying something along the lines of i feel so comfortable with that sh!t that i can afford to take risks and say what i want even while knowing it might turn off some women...

now this is another place where i fked up, i know all too well actions over words etc but she dragged me into sexual conversations with her sl ut t y talk lol, she gamed me well

anyways she insta responds to my texts day and night, and we have talked a LOT this last week (1000+ texts) and got to know eachother quite a bit, but Im pretty sure shes just phucking around with me

I told her we are going to hang out, says shes down, but she lives in toronto so it will be a while before i have time to see her, maybe a couple weeks, and I dont have a of money right now to play with her at the casino when she comes down (twice a week)

so my play is obvious now right?
cut the texts, go ghost for a bit, until im gonna go see her?

shes obviously talking all sl u t t y to test me and i think i failed, i played into her game and even told her a few things i would do to her, that im well endowed, etc

she said "phuck, i get excited too easily" (about herself), she said she could tell me about how she could swallow me whole, put her legs behind her head, or basically be a sex doll, but talk would be cheap, etc

you get the idea... but at the same times shes telling me shes not interested if i just wana phuck her, eventhough she respects my honesty

but I also get the feeling shes into me anyways (looks wise, the way she stares at me at the poker table, but could be acting to phuck with me), its hard to tell if shes running games for fun and attention, or if she actually wants to boyfriend me

thing is I dont think shes sure either, she admitted she doesnt know wtf she wants lol, so I shouldve stood my ground probably with the no dating and just got her the phuck out and phucked her, which is still my play though

i did play one time with her at the casino since we met (so second time) and it was fun, i ran her over ingame, and showed dominance on and off the poker felt.
but the last thing we talked about was after I gave her some poker advice, she says you can mold me into your poker pro, and I will mold you into my sex doll. ..... lol
im like thats hot, your lack of ego (she says so, obv bullsh it) will make u into a good pro, and my lack of asian d!ck will make me into a good sex 'toy'.
she responds with, my friend Ray (asian, good friend of hers, beta orbiter), has a big d!ck though, he showed it to me

I wasnt phased, but Im getting fed up with her bull sh!t, this is how she likes to jokes around
I said well theres a billion of them, one of em was bound to have a good hammer, and she laughed

the thing is, eventhough im surprised at her insta responses day and night on texts (and detailed responses) since she has hundreds of beta orbiters, I should also add she has NEVER initiated a text convo, so Im interested to see now when i go ghost how long until she initiates (if ever) lol

almost at 12 hours, if she doesnt initiate, i will be so phucking shocked honestly, but also dont give a F lol cuz I will also have my answer

 

[cordoncordon]

First of all, a 1000 texts in 2 weeks?! Are you f'ing kidding me? I have been with my wife for 6 years and I don't think we have exchanged 1000 texts total.

Wtf MAN.

Second, I have posted over on 2+2 for a while and I don't know how you guys drink Greyhounds. Just a brutally bad drink.

As for what you should do? Stop texting for one. I can promise you this girl respects action over words, and right now you are boring her to death with words. From here on out only respond to her texts, and make them short and sweet. And for sure don't keep up a text train with her. Set up a time when you can see her, either in Vegas or where ever. And make your move.

BTW if you are in Vegas over July 4, I would be happy to meet up. We will be there.

Good luck.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Stop texting her all the time. Let her initiate. Keep it sparce. Cut out the fluff. Be a ****y funny a$$hole. Run the negs and disqualifications. Make her chase. These type of chicks like to be treated like sh!t as that is all that separates your from her slew of orbiters. Spike her emotions up and down - take her for a ride. Cut the nice guy sh!t completely. Set up the meet when you're in town.

The hotter they are the meaner you have to treat them sometimes especially an attention ***** like this one. In the future, cut your posts down a bit for more responses.

 

[cordoncordon]

Also, I read some of your other posts over on 2+2. You need to slow your roll bro. I see things she says like "when I DECIDE to sleep with you". I mean cmon, this girl is totally in control here. You have good game but you are going way too overboard in your worshipping of her beauty. I saw her other pics btw on instagram. I think you are overestimating her. She is a SOLID 8 imo. Treat her like a 5 and you will be way ahead of the game.

 

[Alexandar]

First of all, a 1000 texts in 2 weeks?! Are you f'ing kidding me? I have been with my wife for 6 years and I don't think we have exchanged 1000 texts total/

Wtf MAN.

Second, I have posted over on 2+2 for a while and I don't know how you guys drink Greyhounds. Just a brutally bad drink.

As for what you should do? Stop texting for one. I can promise you this girl respected action over words, and right now you are boring her to death with words. From here on out only respond to her texts, and make them short and sweet. And for sure don't keep up a text train with her. Set up a time when you can see her, either in Vegas or where ever. And make your move.

BTW if you are in Vegas over July 4, I would be happy to meet up. We will be there.

Good luck.

Id love to meet up but I wont be there, she says shes going (with some beta friend) though at some points but apparently wont play the series just cash, phucking weirdo

are you sure shes bored of texting? shes eating up my conversations I honestly think she enjoys talking to me, we get along well we are both funny and we have fun talkin about sexual sh!t, i cant imagine her spending that much time talking to me nonstop, but it IS weird she doesnt initiate

lol@ the greyhound hate, to each his own brother
I totally agree with you she respects actions over words, she even told me so (why is she trying to help me out?)

the thing is when she comes down here to play at the local casino shes at the tables until 6am or whatever and then crashes at some friends house so its sort of hard to get her away anywhere, Id have to play until 6am too and get her to my place but shes made it clear she doesnt want to do that until weve hung out first, and I dont wana go all the way up to toronto and hang out with her, but I probably will, my sis lives up there anyways should i bring her out with my sis and one or two hot friends of my sisters'? might be a good idea

 

[Alexandar]

Stop texting her all the time. Let her initiate. Keep it sparce. Cut out the fluff. Be a ****y funny a$$hole. Run the negs and disqualifications. Make her chase. These type of chicks like to be treated like sh!t as that is all that separates your from her slew of orbiters. Spike her emotions up and down - take her for a ride. Cut the nice guy sh!t completely. Set up the meet when you're in town.

The hotter they are the meaner you have to treat them sometimes especially an attention ***** like this one. In the future, cut your posts down a bit for more responses.

okok alright so now that ive warmed up to the idea of dating her, and given her the upper hand, i swing that phucking rollercoaster right around like a poker game rite?

I start tellin her phuck I dont think we would be a good match etc etc (I actually already told her shes not my type, i like dark black haired girls, and that im an a s s guy and hers aint nice (she admits this) and she ate all that up, so obviously ur super right)

 

[cordoncordon]

Id love to meet up but I wont be there, she says shes going (with some beta friend) though at some points but apparently wont play the series just cash, phucking weirdo

are you sure shes bored of texting? shes eating up my conversations I honestly think she enjoys talking to me, we get along well we are both funny and we have fun talkin about sexual sh!t, i cant imagine her spending that much time talking to me nonstop, but it IS weird she doesnt initiate

lol@ the greyhound hate, to each his own brother
I totally agree with you she respects actions over words, she even told me so (why is she trying to help me out?)

the thing is when she comes down here to play at the local casino shes at the tables until 6am or whatever and then crashes at some friends house so its sort of hard to get her away anywhere, Id have to play until 6am too and get her to my place but shes made it clear she doesnt want to do that until weve hung out first, and I dont wana go all the way up to toronto and hang out with her, but I probably will, my sis lives up there anyways should i bring her out with my sis and one or two hot friends of my sisters'? might be a good idea

She'll be in Vegas over July 4? We should exchange numbers and we can do some recon for you haha. I will try and sit at a table she is at, etc.

I would try to get her out away from the poker table. The idea with your your sis sounds like a good idea.

And yeah 1000 texts is too much. Too much of anything, now matter how good, is a bad thing.

 

[Alexandar]

How long am i going ghost here? If she doesnt initiate by next weekend should I say something, or just delete?

 

[Alexandar]

reckon sounds great, pm me your number and Ill text you, or I can pm you mine

and thanks haha

 

[Dgwizdal]

Also, I read some of your other posts over on 2+2. You need to slow your roll bro. I see things she says like "when I DECIDE to sleep with you". I mean cmon, this girl is totally in control here. You have good game but you are going way too overboard in your worshipping of her beauty. I saw her other pics btw on instagram. I think you are overestimating her. She is a SOLID 8 imo. Treat her like a 5 and you will be way ahead of the game.

What's her IG. Curious?

 

[Alexandar]

dgwizdal just open the first pic from my first post, right click it, and click google pic, and it comes up

and ur right conc. shes an 8 and i will treat as 5

 

[cordoncordon]

reckon sounds great, pm me your number and Ill text you, or I can pm you mine

and thanks haha

Check your PM's. Her name is Shayna right?

 

[cordoncordon]

How long am i going ghost here? If she doesnt initiate by next weekend should I say something, or just delete?

If you don't hear anything by the weekend shoot her a quick text.

 

[Alexandar]

lol thanks ruler youre right, bit flustered, but **** it

i agree i shouldve kept it light hearted, that manipulative bit ch

i love that line, except instead of nose it will be her flat a s s

love your last sentence, made me lol

she initiated shortly after my last post yesterday, saying i dont usually text first, mainly because i hate texting, but hello. haha

we chatted a bit, i kept it short, hopefully not too serious but i did say "i have a certain look in my eyes when im locked in on my imminent desire for a submissive chick, at least thats they claim, and that it drives them wild. do you believe this ****? " and she responded "Hahaha sure I do. It's like how excited I get when I'm laying there naked, helpless, just wondering what a guy is going to do to me."

howevr i will cut this type of talk down, its just that it came up...

she was on the phone the whole time she said so her responses were slow unlike usually, which i dont care about one bit, but she seems really bothered by it, profusely apologizing... lol?

what is this?

 

[Suspens]

Guys she deserves to be on the pedestal, look at those fvcking natural 36DD baloons.

Seriously though, her body is a perfect 10/10. Haven't seen her ass, but I can guess that is cute too.

 

[zekko]

Guys she deserves to be on the pedestal, look at those fvcking natural 36DD baloons.

You are aware that every woman on the planet has boobs, right?

 

[Alexandar]

suspens body is not 10/10 her a s s is not awesome

zekko thats gold

any idea why she keeps apologizing for even mildly slow responses?
Is she trying to manipulate me into doing the same (not gonna happen, but she was mentioning a form of 'soft power'earlier) or is she just showing a super high IL

 

[DragonBlood]

she was on the phone the whole time she said so her responses were slow unlike usually, which i dont care about one bit, but she seems really bothered by it, profusely apologizing... lol?

what is this?

What is THIS?

This my friend is what real attraction looks like. It means she is afraid of losing you and that you are getting bored of her. And she is losing you, you are getting bored. Otherwise this thread wouldnt exist.

I rarely text a women at all. Normally they reach out first, and when they do I escalate to meet up. When we meet up I escalate physically and turn her on more. Lead Lead Lead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSf0CAwUlc


Your flirty texts are cute but they absolutely have to stop. One of your big problems too is you dont seem to know what to do next.

If a girl reaches out, tell her youve been busy (should be true) and would love to catch up. Organize meet up in person. If she disagrees, well, just ignore some more and focus on other women. You need to organise your pipeline otherwise you are going to invest in bad options that dont go anywhere. Your time is valuable, dont waste it. Always escalate as far as the girl feels comfortable, move her around, take her to new venues, on new adventures. Girls follow and hold onto positive emotions for dear life. Let her be so absorbed by your world and the things that make you happy she almost has to stay.

 

[Alexandar]

haha very interesting perspective.

maybe i AM getting bored, but ill have fun phucking her still

one thing i totally disagree with is not knowing what to do next, this is not a problem at all, the real problem is money, i suck at managing it and have none at this point, so she will just have to wait

i like the bolded part

i guess she is probably way into me, super high IL, its just sort of new to me, i never pursued really hot girls cuz i was too busy getting stoned and overthinking how 'why would they phuck ME, they have options of guys who r just as handsome as me but loaded with bigger social circles, bigger muscles, etc'

i have started to realize though that most guys are much more lame than i ever imagined, so my edge is bigger than i ever expected