Girls with really beta boyfriends

[GT40]

She sounds masculine, or at least radiates masculine energy.

there you go. Sexual polarity.

She’s the boss. Calls the shots and that’s how she likes it. Her BF is a weak little biatch. She’s easy pickings for Alpha males like us. Just for play time. That’s it.
Trust me I know

 

[jnMissouri]

I think this is right. I have seen a lot more beta guys with really hot girls in recent years.

I was JUST telling my friend about this TONIGHT, and have been thinking about this for a while. I see this mostly in the Asian community. Smoking hot asian girls with super beta boyfriends. Chemistry perhaps trumps "alpha" or "sigma" male status.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I was JUST telling my friend about this TONIGHT, and have been thinking about this for a while. I see this mostly in the Asian community. Smoking hot asian girls with super beta boyfriends. Chemistry perhaps trumps "alpha" or "sigma" male status.

That could be. It could also be that as the world gets more chaotic and uncertain women want men they can rely on to provide for them

 

[SW15]

she was an average Indian girl lol

This is an entire thread about an average looking Indian woman with a beta male, STEM worker Indian man.

 

[rjc149]

Indian women are hot. They have hairs and odors that would be unacceptable on a white woman.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Women need emotional validation and nurturing to remain in a relationship, otherwise it adds no value to her life. They need to feel that the connection is safe and secure. They will trade raw sexual attraction for the emotional safety and comfort of a compliant man who will validate her and won’t stray.

We expound at length here about “women prefer to share an alpha than be with a committed beta” and “women will drop her boyfriend and take the first opportunity with Chad” and while that’s certainly true for some women, it’s red pill bullsh!t when stated as a generality. Women leave alphas for the nurturing comfort of a beta all the time.

I can assume with relative safety that there is no sex when she’s on her period in this relationship.

This is particularly true for women on birth control. Since most birth control works by tricking their body into thinking they're pregnant, they end up prefering the "provider" type more. This is all unconscious of course. But I remember seeing some studies that it goes so deep as to change what type of male body odor they are attracted to.

 

[rjc149]

Many women with issues will cling to men that offer them little to no emotional intimacy, etc. I can think of many examples of this, but the dynamic that I see is that the man is really just in it for sex and to not be single and really isn't all that interested in her as a person. These women, with whatever issues they have, behave clingy towards these men and desperately pursue getting any form of validation or emotional acceptance from them. This is where the "bad boy"/player type can be applied.

I can cite a specific example of a man in his mid-late 20s that I personally know that is like this and he attracts these types of women. His behavior is relatively the same across the board when it comes to his interactions with women. His game is based around meeting a lot of women and very few of them ever stay around for very long, which implies that they pick up on how he operates and quickly next him. Women like this are showing more well adjusted emotional responses to someone like this. However, there have also been several women that pursued this man and craved any form of validation from him. He was emotionally unavailable but because of their issues they feel that they need to chase after him, whereas with a more normal man who perhaps is available to them they don't see it as a challenge. The phrase "he is just too nice" comes to mind when women see a guy that is actually interested in them as being "boring".

The seduction/red pill community often frames “alpha/beta” and “unavailable/too available” as a black/white dichotomy, when the optimally attractive behavior in a relationship is to be not always available and a little bit of a challenge, while ultimately being attainable and emotionally available to her.

Even damaged women will grow tired of chasing an unavailable “alpha.” Women will not do 80% of the pursuing and investment for very long. They just won’t.

 

[bat soup]

I think most women are dating men that most guys on here would consider beta, but I ran into this girl that had a bf and this guy was your typical nerdy-looking indian guy and he couldn't even iron his clothes. She even told the group that he is shy and that she was going to try and force him to be social. The girl is extremely extroverted and was complaining about how she leads so many men on and has to tell them that she has a bf. What is the rationale behind this?

She's enjoying the attention she gets.

 

[rjc149]

This is particularly true for women on birth control. Since most birth control works by tricking their body into thinking they're pregnant, they end up prefering the "provider" type more. This is all unconscious of course. But I remember seeing some studies that it goes so deep as to change what type of male body odor they are attracted to.

I was more referring to the tendency for women to make lots of excuses to avoid sex with a partner they are not very sexually attracted to.

 

[HaleyBaron]

This is particularly true for women on birth control. Since most birth control works by tricking their body into thinking they're pregnant, they end up prefering the "provider" type more. This is all unconscious of course. But I remember seeing some studies that it goes so deep as to change what type of male body odor they are attracted to.

I'm pretty sure this is one of the big reasons. The BC changed the west forever, and ****ing with female hormones is one of the reasons I try to tell any girls Im with not to take it. I like nutting, dont get me wrong, but that **** really changes a female's brain hard. Im pretty damn sure there a huge correlation with birth control and feminism.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I'm pretty sure this is one of the big reasons. The BC changed the west forever, and ****ing with female hormones is one of the reasons I try to tell any girls Im with not to take it. I like nutting, dont get me wrong, but that **** really changes a female's brain hard. Im pretty damn sure there a huge correlation with birth control and feminism.

What about the copper IUD?

 

[mrskinnypantz]

would be an interesting story of how they got together.

Indeed

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I'm pretty sure this is one of the big reasons. The BC changed the west forever, and ****ing with female hormones is one of the reasons I try to tell any girls Im with not to take it. I like nutting, dont get me wrong, but that **** really changes a female's brain hard. Im pretty damn sure there a huge correlation with birth control and feminism.

Honestly I don't stop to consider this much anymore. It's so strange to me because when I was in my late teens/early 20s I was the "nice guy" beta archetype around women and yet I had somehow managed to get 4 GFs during that time. The last girl I was with I had insane amounts of sex with, and remember she was on BC the entire time. Now, I struggle to get into a relationship at all besides some **** buddies here and there. And I've asked almost every girl I've slept with since and none of them were on BC.

What about the copper IUD?

No lol.

 

[SargeMaximus]

No lol.

Care to elaborate? Or are you just saying no because you don’t like it?

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Care to elaborate? Or are you just saying no because you don’t like it?

IUDs have no effect on hormones; they still ovulate etc. My point was that hormonal contraceptives trick the body into think it's pregnant. So I highly doubt it would have any impact on their personality or anything like that.

 

[SargeMaximus]

IUDs have no effect on hormones; they still ovulate etc. My point was that hormonal contraceptives trick the body into think it's pregnant. So I highly doubt it would have any impact on their personality or anything like that.

Oh I see. Thanks. So if you have a regular girl I’d say ideally she gets a copper iud

 

[HaleyBaron]

What about the copper IUD?

The Copper iud has bc in it, too. At least from what I heard. If it doesn't, it still isn't good for being inside them. Apparently they bleed more with iuds.

 

[darksprezzatura]

I wouldn't generalise, but considering your opinion, women prefer being "in a relationship" to boost their social status or pecking order among their women friends.

It's like how some new guys brag to their friends about their lays.

It's usually a sign of insecurity if she's in a relationship and leads on other guys to fulfill herself.

 

[joesknows]

How rich is he? It's difficult for an Indian or Indian-American to date outside their race. I have an Indian-American engineer friend. I use the term friend loosely because he's more of friends with people in the larger social group than me.

Many years before the pandemic, he was known for going to bars in the yuppie part of my city and hitting on white women. These white women had zero interest in him. He had no game. If sober, he was a beta nice guy who offered nothing. If drunk, he was a personal space invading creepster. He bought a car from a luxury brand and it still didn't get him vagina.

Why is she with that guy then? Is she only average looking? If average looking, maybe she's a pump and dump candidate for alpha males.

I've seen this 99% of the time with Indians I know. It's crazy how uninhibited they get when they go out with other Indians. They are super aggressive in approaching, moreso than any other race or ethnic group I've seen.

Their success rate is pretty close to 0%. There isn't an explicit caste system in the US, which in some ways is worse because it can lead these guys to waste an enormous amount of time chasing higher status women getting absolutely nothing in return.

 

[SW15]

I've seen this 99% of the time with Indians I know. It's crazy how uninhibited they get when they go out with other Indians. They are super aggressive in approaching, moreso than any other race or ethnic group I've seen.

Their success rate is pretty close to 0%. There isn't an explicit caste system in the US, which in some ways is worse because it can lead these guys to waste an enormous amount of time chasing higher status women getting absolutely nothing in return.

I have been impressed with a lot of the Indians and Indian-Americans I've seen approaching. The Indians who have lived in India are more aggressive on approaching. I would see them swarm Meetup.com events and approach women like crazy there, mostly mediocre white women.

My Indian-American friend from that quote above was wild for white women who had zero interest in him.

I think many Indians and Indian-Americans desire white women. The only white woman I personally know who got with an Indian man was overweight.