Girls with boyfriends. Nothing to lose.

[Oscar Wilde]

Yo echo & elvis:

I agree with you guys about quite a few things.

If I'm walking down the street, start chatting up some girl, find out she has a BF and she gives me her number anyway, then I'm going to wonder how serious she is about the guy. 50 - 50 situation, not sure how I'd proceed.

If I'm in a club, and start making out with another chick, I'm gonna hit that no matter what she tells me her status is. Sorry bf, she's a slut & I'm gonna have some of that.

If I know some girl and her BF too, then there is almost no chance I'm gonna try it with her. The exception would be both that a) the guy is a jerk and I dislike him a lot and b) the girl is mad on for it.

I would not go out of my way to find a taken girl, but given that 90% of them are in relationships 90% of the time it's hard not to...

Am I being unfair?

Oscar.

 

[becker]

Oscar, I agree with your ideas.

I hate how all girls seem to be in a relationship these days. Unless it's very serious (as in marriage), I'm not going to hold back. Plus, I try to avoid getting to know the BFs too well at all costs, because if I get to know them, I know there's no chance I'll do anything with the girl even if they break up.

 

[elvis aint dead yet]

I agree with the fact that if you are at some club, meet some random woman, and you wind up dancing and hooking up, go for it.

Maybe she's using the infamous "I have a bf" at first, maybe it's true, if she's all over you, thats what happens.

But i just think it's funny too many guys meet some girl, find out she has a bf, and then maybe even meet the bf or not and then continue to pursue this girl.

What you are asking for is nothing but trouble.

Yeah many girls will go out and sleep around and cheat on their bfs, however if the couple are in a serious relationship, do not be surpised if the guy gets pissed off.

As i said before, I know of guys who were shot or even worse cause they had sex with another mans girlfriend.

I know where i came from, I know what I'd do if one of my gf "friends" had sex with my gf, so why the hell would i even want to get into that situation. It's never a good thing.

Maybe some guys would beat their gf, maybe some guys would do nothing, but there are also a many guys who would make it their last mission to find you.

Esp if the chic your having sex with has a kid with that guy.

One night stands or random hook ups, whatever, everybody needs to do what they have to do,

but if you become friends with the girl, either know the bf or have heard enough about him, and you still continue to bang her over and over again,

do not come crying to this board and do not go crying to your mom that that bf either A-kicked your ass B-bashed your head in with a baseball bat or C-shot you.

Girls are known for trying to make their BF jealous.

For most peoples sake, i hope you meet some guy who is a loser AFC who would cry that his gf is cheating on him.

Because if you come across some guy who snapped, don't come asking me for donations to help support your wheelchair fund. It's your own damn fault.

 

[BGMan]

All right, Elvis, I have for a long time felt that if a girl tells you she has a BF, you should drop her. But how about this?

Girl I've known for two years, attracted to me but only would go out with me once, and I drop her and move on. I find out from a mutual friend that she has a BF.

Two months later, she CHASES me, calls me up and so on. We have a date at her apt where she makes me dinner and we watch a movie. I pull away, but she gets me to have a second date. Then, she's really feeling me now, so I decide to ask for a third date. I decide not to show up, and pull away, and she CHASES me again until we have a third date. Then, I call her and we get together a fourth time, and SHE starts talking about emotion stuff (implying she's seriously into me) and we start fooling around. No kissing or sex. She NEVER mentions a BF at all.

As far as I'm concerned, if the BF goes after me, then he's in the wrong, and it's the girl's fault for CHASING me while she's with him. Because of that, I'll continue to see her, although keeping it low-profile. I have a sneaky suspicion that she has me lined up to replace her BF, and she's known me for two years and seems to have been attracted to me the entire time. But she only started to take action two months ago. Coincidentally, I'll be moving away for grad school in a year.

BGMan

 

[becker]

BGMan, if I were in your position and I really like this girl, I wouldn't hold back at all, BF or not. It's gutsy, but who the hell cares.

I think that if a girl doesn't mention her BF and how wonderful their relationship is all the time around you, then she's game. That's really the only exception. I have known many girls who have BFs, and have made it pretty clear that their relationship isn't totally top priority and that they're attracted to you.

I have gotten Valentine's Day cards from girls with BFs at random and you can tell these girls have trouble even mentioning the word "boyfriend" around you, and try to use other ways to say it like use "he" or some ambiguous term, since it's less direct and clear as "boyfriend".

 

[tiburon]

DEAR DRANKNUGSS and LITTELE GIO

DEAR DRANKNUGSS :


Call me whatever you want..but i have enough girls to pick from than to go with those that have serious BF...Read my post ..if i dont know the guy and she wants to be a slut ..yeah ill bang her but i completely agree with elvis aint dead yet..that guy has a man's mentalitty like me and unlike you. If she is a slut and wants to sleep with two guys thats her problem....but read my post before you talk crap...i dont go and see a couple knowing she has a bf or a serious relationship and go persue that ass..and abuse my knowledge of women to give her what the poor AFC BF doesnt..i find that low....

If i shake hands once with a guy ..LIKE I SAID BEFORE ..thats for me like giving him my word as a man and his woman i would only fvck if she broke up with him..but if i dont know she has a bf and i dont know the guy ofcourse ill bang her...i have done it before..

Know i dont criticize men who sleep with girls with bf becuase she pursued it and wanted it and you dont know the guy personally..or never exchanged words..I criticize on those who are a disrespect to the meaning of being a MAn and see a guy with his girl and then behind his back tries to mack to the *****...or those who do it by the front...Also when i ask for # i dont as for a personal profile so ill leave it upto her if she has a bf or not...If she does i aslways found out one way or another how serious is this guy or is it just a fbuddy...

Look at your self in the mirror and call yourself an AFC...you are talking to a guy who you will never fill in his shoes as a man ..so recognize and show some respect..




Dear GIO:

MEn grow up and stop picking liitle fights with me ..you are 24 and you act like 15 ..and yes I AM A TRUE DJ ..and not an AFC getting married at 23 because he is so traumatized from previous relationships....

TAKE CARE SON..


Tiburon

 

[ryoshi]

I don't focus on girls with boyfriends but having extra chicks available and making it her decision is something I'm for. Married chicks I don't interfere with. That's something sacred.

The place I live in, the guys out number the girls 3 to 1 and only 30% of the guys get to bang 100% of the girls here. If competition is as bad as it is here as where you are, you have to maximize your opportunities or else you'll be the 70% whackin it.

If the girl cheats with you, chances are she's going to cheat with another guy so it might as well be you. Sure, she's likely not an LTR but she's probably not looking for an LTR herself but rather a quick FU(c)K.


One thing I don't understand is when people come here to share techniques and others find it so necessary to teach them about morals. Does your opposing opinions really matter or should they be kept to yourself?

 

[Oscar Wilde]

Originally posted by ryoshi

One thing I don't understand is when people come here to share techniques and others find it so necessary to teach them about morals. Does your opposing opinions really matter or should they be kept to yourself?

Sure they matter.

Most people come here to learn (not share) techniques and tricks, because they believe there's some trick involved.

Then they get slapped by us for asking dumb questions until they actually go read the bible and learn that it's not actually about tricks and techniques, but lifestyle and social changes.

These new ways can include morals too.

Q. E. D.

Oscar.

 

[elvis aint dead yet]

Everybody has different morals, beliefs, etc. And being that this website is visited by people from around the globe, different opinions and morals are bound to exist.

But I'm not the one who is preaching about morals. I'm just warning people. If your in high school or some young college kid, what I say most likely does not matter because most high school and college aged girls and guys are playing the field and having fun.

I'm refering to those guys who once they are out of college-age land, you enter a new realm.

A realm where if you have sex with some other guys GF, there are going to be consequences.

If you want to have a one night stand and the girl is all over you, go for it. Just watch your back. But if you continue to sleep with some girl who you know has a bf, or you might even know the guy or know enough about him, do you really need the drama?

For every AFC guy, there are non-AFC friends.

Some places, friends have the backs of their friends.

Which means, yeah you snuck behind the bfs back and slept with his girl on numerous occassions. You know about the guy and think he's just some loser AFC who will never do anything.

What you didn't know was that he has a few close friends who probably aren't AFC or DJ or anything like that. They are just guys who you'd rather not mess with, guys who cover their friends back when **** goes down.

I reveal a short story. A friend of mine, his younger brother was the typical AFC kind of guy. Not a bad guy, but too nice when it counted and too nieve when it came to the world.

He was hooked up with some hot babe, courtesy of his brother, and they wind up going out for quite some time. As i said, cool guy and all, just a typical AFC. We all knew she was cheating on him, and the majority of the time we'd try to tell him.

Then one day a few of us went out to some club out of town. Low and behold, we saw the little brothers GF with some other dude. It later was found out he was one of her "friends".

My friend, the little brothers older brother, did not take kindly to this. He approached the girl, guy got all ansy and suddenly a fight persued.

It didnt end there though. See my friend not only beat the hell out of the guy, he followed him later. And even though i really wasn't friends with his little brother, I knew him and i had my friends back.

The gf was all pissed off, but I'm the one who had to save the guy who was sleeping with her. My friend proceded to follow him to his car and was going to beat the living **** out the guy, if not kill him.

I almost had to fight my friend, just so he wouldn't kill the guy.

A couple of the guys friends later showed up and a bigger battle happened, but the dudes friends were just a bunch of pansies.

So i pulled my friend away before the cops would show up and we left. The dude was face first, all bloody on the ground.

Who knows what would have happened if i didnt pry my friend away.

All i'm saying is, if you mess with some girl who you know is in a relationship, and you even know a little about the bf, don't be surprised if one day you wind up seriously injured or dead.

My friend also had a gun in his car, lucky it never came down to that, but who knows what could have happened. Remember, it's his little brother, and this guy don't play any **** when it comes to protecting his family. Even if his brother was an AFC.

As i said, i'd rather avoid the drama, i mean what, there are tons of single girls out there, why persue some girl you know is in a relationship. Your just calling for the wolves.

I made my mistakes over the years, i'm just leaving you with a word of warning.

If you know a girl is in a relationship and has a BF, your whole idea of she never mentions her BF around me is false. Because someway or another, you did find out she has a BF, so she at least mentioned it once.

 

[Oscar Wilde]

Originally posted by elvis aint dead yet

The gf was all pissed off, but I'm the one who had to save the guy who was sleeping with her. My friend proceded to follow him to his car and was going to beat the living **** out the guy, if not kill him.

I almost had to fight my friend, just so he wouldn't kill the guy.

A couple of the guys friends later showed up and a bigger battle happened, but the dudes friends were just a bunch of pansies.

So i pulled my friend away before the cops would show up and we left. The dude was face first, all bloody on the ground.

Who knows what would have happened if i didnt pry my friend away.

All i'm saying is, if you mess with some girl who you know is in a relationship, and you even know a little about the bf, don't be surprised if one day you wind up seriously injured or dead.

My friend also had a gun in his car, lucky it never came down to that, but who knows what could have happened. Remember, it's his little brother, and this guy don't play any **** when it comes to protecting his family. Even if his brother was an AFC.

As i said, i'd rather avoid the drama, i mean what, there are tons of single girls out there, why persue some girl you know is in a relationship. Your just calling for the wolves.

I made my mistakes over the years, i'm just leaving you with a word of warning.

If you know a girl is in a relationship and has a BF, your whole idea of she never mentions her BF around me is false. Because someway or another, you did find out she has a BF, so she at least mentioned it once.

And the girl gets away with wet panties after having these guys fighting over her.

That entire story is _her_ fault, and not the other guy. Hell, she coulda told him any kinda story about how her bf was treating her. I don't blame him at all.

And just like your friend was packing a pistol, he may have been too, and he was perfectly in his rights to use it because YOU guys broke the law (by attacking him) and he did not commit any crime by shagging the ho.

Funny how there's 2 sides to it, eh?

I take your warning though - I've been alone facing 4 guys outside a club at 3am before, I had been making out with this guys financee without knowing (ho didn't tell me). Two factors saved me: 1) I kept calm and explained things in a non-confrontational manner; 2) I'm a big fscker and they knew I'd take 1 or 2 of them down.

Oscar.

 

[BGMan]

Originally posted by Oscar Wilde
That entire story is _her_ fault, and not the other guy. Hell, she coulda told him any kinda story about how her bf was treating her. I don't blame him at all.

And just like your friend was packing a pistol, he may have been too, and he was perfectly in his rights to use it because YOU guys broke the law (by attacking him) and he did not commit any crime by shagging the ho.

Funny how there's 2 sides to it, eh?

Exactly. My dad happens to like guns, so I know if anyone tries to go to my house to attack me, there will be hell to pay.

It's the GIRL'S lack of interest in her BF which is the culprit in love rip-offs, not the "other guy". If I'm the "other guy", it's only because SHE wanted it.

BGMan

 

[elvis aint dead yet]

Yes there is two sides to every story.. I get what you are referring to, many chics will hook up with guys at clubs, and you won't find out till later that she in fact does have a bf or fiance, etc. That just sucks and thats a part of life.


What i'm referring to is, as the guy who started this whole post said, he knew the girl for two years, he knew the girl had a bf, and yet he still is persuing her, why?


BUt yeah, the whole point is, if you already know she has a boyfriend, why bother with putting up with all that damn drama.

As for attacking that guy, my friend isn't really one who cares. He's been in and out of jail on numerous occassions.

The reason we left was because i'm not one who wants to get arrested and so on.

As for the talking the whole thing over, with my friend, as with many other guys in the world, it's a Punch or Shoot first and then talk later mentality.

All i'm trying to say is, if your hooking up with some chic you just met in a bar, hey do what you have to do.

BUt, like this guy that was attacked, he was friends with this girl for about a year, even hung out with my friends little brother and pretended to be his friend. That **** does not go well with many guys i know, and it esp doesn't go well with me.

Hey, hook up with all the girls you want, thats not my point, but if your pretending to be friends with some dude, just to bang his gf, you better be ready to face the consequences, because there are many people in this world who really dont' give a **** if they live or die or go to jail.

As I said I've learned from my own mistakes years ago, I'm not a small guy myself either, was a lot more defined when i was younger though, also had a few gym friends who hung out with me all the time and there is nothing in the world like some dude pulling a gun on you at 2am. The thing to remember, when your banging some chic who has a bf that you sort of know, your the one who has to watch your back, not him.

****z always seems to happen at the wrong place and wrong time.

Your friends might have your back, but many people freak out over guns, and then there are morons like myself who think they were bad azz mutha f'ers and could face anything.

I was lucky, real lucky, but i did learn my lesson. And i was young, tough and stupid.

But my scenario is different then most, i'm just warning people that, if your banging some chic who has a bf that you somewhat know, you are asking for nothing but trouble.

WHy cause yourself so much drama. Go bang some chic you met at a club or something.