Girls who use "The Rules"

[vier20]

Guys,

I apologize if this has been covered. I've encountered a girl (HB 8) who seems to be using our version of the DJ Bible. Maybe something like "The Rules" book that came out a few years ago. I'm not sure of this, but I suspect it.

Some indicators:
She doesn't call me
She ends the phone calls when the subject gets "interesting"
She always appear busy
She doesn't accept a date without some advance notification
She keeps her emotions in check at all times it seems

In short she's trying to be a challenge! Which leads me to believe she's following some sort of guideline for women.

Have any of you encountered girls like this?

How do we respond to this so called "Rules"?

As you can imagine, this makes it very hard to apply things you learn from the DJ bible.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

 

[Seeph]

I think her method of game is the "Cold-Hearted B*tch" method. If you want to put up with it then thats pretty much the only way to deal with it.. IMO girls like that arent worth the trouble.

 

[Mack Action Hero]

Rules Girls are complete idiots. Where DJs gain real confidence and naturally become a challenge, the Rules Girls use superficial, unbending guidelines to hide their insecurities.

Luckily as a DJ you're equipped to out-game her.. or just ditch her.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Stay away from women that use "the Rules" as a guide. Mostly the ones that follow several of the rules at one time or even worse yet, the ones who tell you what they will and won't do based on "the Rules." They're just a waste of time. Stick to women that show you readily that they enjoy your company.

 

[blabla]

I've always wondered what the hell are "the rules"? Anybody can point me to what they are?

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by blabla
I've always wondered what the hell are "the rules"? Anybody can point me to what they are?

It's a book for girls on how to manipulate a guy into marriage.

Analytical steps to appear worthy of marriage material.

 

[WaterTiger]

Originally posted by Ice Cold
It's a book for girls on how to manipulate a guy into marriage.

Analytical steps to appear worthy of marriage material.

Funny thing is, the woman who wrote the book...
...IS DIVORCED!
Yep! Her loving hubby kicked her to the curb! "The Rules" don't work!

 

[Raptured Phoenix]

Wasn't it Anti-Dump who said that to be succesful only one side can have a strategy (thats you buddy)

Otherwise you will result in a stale-mate. You both loose.

Dump her and move on.

 

[biker_gixxer]

IMO, it doesn't matter if she is using the rules or not, you're the man, take control of the situation. If you are concerned with it, then she's got you right where she wants you.

Try to convey through your actions that she doesn't mean shiot to you. If she doesn't call you, don't call her. Don't give her an opportunity to end the conversation when it gets good. Answer the phone and say 'hey, can i call you back?' Appear busier then her and most importantly, be sure to keep your emotions under control.

And don't put so much thought into one girl.

 

[Caveman]

I can see her typing away on rulesgirls.com forum:

Well, he called and I ended the conversation when it got interesting like you all said.. According to the rules he should be calling back within the next day. It's been 2 days now. What do I do? HELP!!

Anyway, do yourself a favor and find someone else.

 

[Omega]

She's not worth the effort but, if you want you can keep her along just for educational purposes. I'd bust her on her methods, if she even has any. When she calls, say "Hey, it's me". See if she responds like a PUA would, and then continue on from there. Make sure you say "I'm hoping today you'll be able to hold an interesting conversation for more then a couple seconds, so we'll see how this goes " When it comes to girls like this, you have to verbally tell them you know what their doing. If you flow with it you'll drown.

Good luck.

 

[vier20]

Guys,

Thanks for all the responses!

I agree that these girls are not worth the trouble, but this one became sort of a challenge for me, to see if my DJ skills can overcome her "rules". But she's been impressive, very disciplined so far

Anyways, I think Raptured Phoenix made a good point about Anti-Dump saying only one side can have a strategy. Because that's what I'm experiencing right now, a stale-mate!

I still have biker_gixxer's attitude though, that I'm going to try to out-game her, so to say. But it's not going to be easy. I will probably keep her for educational purposes like r3n3gad3 said. Other than verbally calling them on using the rules, how else should I step up my game?

 

[OpenMind]

I dated a "rules girl" before and it was no fun. I could see right through all her bull****. Everytime things got fun and spicy she had to ruin it by playing hard to get. After i sent her to the curb after a little over a month of dating, all her friends kept telling me how much she liked me and how I was the first guy that she had feelings for in the longest time. I just told them to tell her to stop acting like a man and when she starts to act like a woman I might consider dating her again if she is lucky. This chick called me (which she would never do when we were dating) and asked me out on a date 6 months later.. I ended up standing her up unintentionally but anyway it was for the better...

"Rules girls" suck.. bottom line.. they are not fun to be with..

 

[Vernon9]

Originally posted by OpenMind
I dated a "rules girl" before and it was no fun. I could see right through all her bull****. Everytime things got fun and spicy she had to ruin it by playing hard to get. After i sent her to the curb after a little over a month of dating, all her friends kept telling me how much she liked me and how I was the first guy that she had feelings for in the longest time. I just told them to tell her to stop acting like a man and when she starts to act like a woman I might consider dating her again if she is lucky. This chick called me (which she would never do when we were dating) and asked me out on a date 6 months later.. I ended up standing her up unintentionally but anyway it was for the better...

"Rules girls" suck.. bottom line.. they are not fun to be with..

 

[Vernon9]

Originally posted by OpenMind
I dated a "rules girl" before and it was no fun. I could see right through all her bull****. Everytime things got fun and spicy she had to ruin it by playing hard to get. After i sent her to the curb after a little over a month of dating, all her friends kept telling me how much she liked me and how I was the first guy that she had feelings for in the longest time. I just told them to tell her to stop acting like a man and when she starts to act like a woman I might consider dating her again if she is lucky. This chick called me (which she would never do when we were dating) and asked me out on a date 6 months later.. I ended up standing her up unintentionally but anyway it was for the better...

"Rules girls" suck.. bottom line.. they are not fun to be with..

They might be worth the fuss if other factors [brains and looks] are fine. They always play games, it's just a matter of guidelines they follow. As long as you can manage the whole thing without blinking your eye - there is no risk of getting frustrated.
See her as another training bag, just somewhat harder. Obviously she can't be the only item on your mind, she would sense it.

 

[strong like bull]

Rules Girls are complete idiots. Where DJs gain real confidence and naturally become a challenge, the Rules Girls use superficial, unbending guidelines to hide their insecurities.

lol

its funny how this can be reversed, to say DJuannabees use superficial, unbending guidelines to hide their insecurities.

regardless, i agree that you need to live for yourself. YOU run the game. she is an ADDITION to your life. NOT THE SOURCE. if she isnt living up to your standards, adios. if she keeps pulling these bull**** games out of her ass and cant keep it real, adios. there are plenty of honest, WARMHEARTED girls out there looking for a real man to hold onto.

 

[sapphire]

Even a Rules girl will bend the rules if she truly likes you.

 

[JJMcLure]

If you stay close to the DJ principles you will screen out Rules girls automatically.

The Rules is game-playing plain and simple. And if you fight back with games it escalates out of control.

It can be a "challenge" with the first few to try to out play them, which is what you are planning. But after that it gets boring/time consuming and there are better chicks to spend time on.

Be careful not to get sucked in or develop a one-itis, which is possible with the amount of effort/thought/time you will have to put in before getting what you want.

They're not worth your time, and you will end up NEXTing them.

URL for the guy who asked: http://www.therulesbook.com/

 

[Crank_It_Up]

Originally posted by strong like bull
lol

its funny how this can be reversed, to say DJuannabees use superficial, unbending guidelines to hide their insecurities....

heh, glad someone else saw the irony of this thread

 

[Recluce]

you just have to look at it this way....she must REALLY like you if she is using "the rules" on you. after all, she's ONLY a woman.