girls that kiss guys they just met in clubs

[SoSuave666]

PairPlus:

There is no problem with having standards. It's reasonable to expect, however, that women go out and have a good time. Hell, this board is made up of men explaining how they got an hb8 or hb9 to do "this" and "that" with them the first time they hung out. It's borderline ridiculous to think that women these days aren't out at clubs hitting up random dudes. I won't be as bold to say they do it as often as men, but let's wake up gentlemen.

I once knew a very attractive woman who said she would abstain from sex until marriage. She was very good looking, very slender, and raised right by her parents. She had everything going for her. She went to college, got a boyfriend in her first year, dated him for 2 years. They never had secks. She dumped him after two years, studied abroad, and had secks with the first man she met. she continued to have sex with him while she was there, never dating him. She came back to the states, and continued to have sex with men, always saying " I don't normally do this" with all of them. She is deeply religious, and has very high morals, much like some people who post on this board. It doesn't mean she won't give in to her desires when the time is right.

Moral of the story is: women's emotions can change in an instant. One second they aren't having secks with a long term boyfriend they are in love with because they are waiting until marriage, the next they are banging some foreigner because he is hot with lots of badass tattoos. NEVER trust a woman's words on her past. Enjoy the woman's company while she is with you. No need to worry about her past...you more than likely won't like what you hear anyway.

 

[bigneil]

No need to worry about her past...you more than likely won't like what you hear anyway.

Exactly. If she's unjaded, sweet and happy to be with you, that's all that matters. Talking about her past will only upset her.

 

[women haze]

PairPlus:

There is no problem with having standards. It's reasonable to expect, however, that women go out and have a good time. Hell, this board is made up of men explaining how they got an hb8 or hb9 to do "this" and "that" with them the first time they hung out. It's borderline ridiculous to think that women these days aren't out at clubs hitting up random dudes. I won't be as bold to say they do it as often as men, but let's wake up gentlemen.

I once knew a very attractive woman who said she would abstain from sex until marriage. She was very good looking, very slender, and raised right by her parents. She had everything going for her. She went to college, got a boyfriend in her first year, dated him for 2 years. They never had secks. She dumped him after two years, studied abroad, and had secks with the first man she met. she continued to have sex with him while she was there, never dating him. She came back to the states, and continued to have sex with men, always saying " I don't normally do this" with all of them. She is deeply religious, and has very high morals, much like some people who post on this board. It doesn't mean she won't give in to her desires when the time is right.

Moral of the story is: women's emotions can change in an instant. One second they aren't having secks with a long term boyfriend they are in love with because they are waiting until marriage, the next they are banging some foreigner because he is hot with lots of badass tattoos. NEVER trust a woman's words on her past. Enjoy the woman's company while she is with you. No need to worry about her past...you more than likely won't like what you hear anyway.

Spot on!

 

[pyros]

Hi.


As I said in my previous post, if you meet a 22 years old girl. Why are you assuming she made out dozens of times with a stranger, and she had at least one-night stand etc etc?

Normally girls this age seek LTR, the majority of them. Besides, it seems like you want them to be the sluttests which is fine for you, for me too, but not if I'm considering one of them to be with me.

I did not say I want a 24 y.o. girl to be a virgin, or to never have made out with a random guy. What I'm saying is I dont want a girl that made out with random guys many times, or had one night-stands every now and then.
Of course I do understand that she could have had secks with a guy within some dates, and then regret it. That is ok.


I want a girl that is not a *****, a girl that doesnt only seek physical pleasure, however, whenever, like a dog.

It seems you find it nice if a girl is banging every guy she likes, going to parties to make out with every guy she wants, and then after you being her 25th, she's your girlfriend now. Fantastic.

You know, from all girls I've met, there are always a few of them that everyone knows they are easy, and that they just have secks fast, they change boyfriends fast, and they go from one guy to another. There are the rest, that behave differently, they try to find a good guy, they want a relationship.
This is what women always want, but it seems, in the last couple of years roles have switched, so many women behave like men (banging whatever), as in 'Sex in the city'.

Yeah, I have not been with dozens of women as many of you here, so what? a friend of mine that brags about having banged many girls, everytime I see him hunting, or talking to a girl, she's normally...not...cute. So there is not point in bangin as many women as you can, if they're ugly.
I really dont understand how many of the guys here, bang hot cute girls, one after another. So you meet this cute hot and nice girl. You go out with her for 3-4 times, you bang her some more times, and they you dump her? what? why? if she's nice, she does good sex etc etc, why dump her? so you spin plates? ok, but if she's pretty cool? then what? you dump her anyways?

I believe there are nice hot girls that have secks with a guy they're not even in love with, but I guess there are just some of them, not almost all of them as you suggest.
From my experience, girls that are not very good looking, ie ugly, are the ones that have secks fast, because they know they're ugly so they just give you sex fast to see if they get you that way. Hot cute girls, normally wait for several dates until they let you bang them. Or what?


Iceberg: I dont expect women to lack sexual history. I expect them to have some history proportional to their age and personality. So if a girl is 22 and she's been with 4 guys, I find it too much. But if she's 28 it may be ok.
'And Pyro seems to equate having a couple summer flings with blindfolded ******* parties.' what the heck? its not that.

SoSuave666: Im not pedestalizing any future girlfriend of mine. I expect her to have a brain, be a responsible smart woman, and I expect her also to give secks not just because she's a *****. I dont want a nun but definetely not a slut. As I said, I now girls that are sluts, that go from one guy to another, and the rest that seek relationships and choose carefully who they have sex with.
It is not the same if we talk about a young girl, or a girl who's now 27. So I dont expect the same history from these two girls.

Mantis_Toboggan: one of my exes did not drink alcohol, and the other did but very little, so they did not go to parties to get drunk and have secks with any guy. It seems you live in 'American Pie' lol (I'm not from the usa).
Im not saying that good girls dont have sex. But I am saying that they seek LTR, so they have it that way.
So if a girl is 25 and she's had 3-4 boyfriends, and has had sex with all of them, I dont like to think about it, but that's ok.

PairPlusRoyalFlush: yeah, Im talking about LTR standards yes. It seems the vast majority of guys here find it ok, as long as she's not a psycho, cheats, or has a penis.
Yeah, would you marry a girl that slept with every guy she liked? with 20 guys? bbrbbb....bbb...

SgtSplacker: yes, as you get older all the ladies you meet have been around the block a bit. This is why I prefer to date girls that are no older than 24. lol.
I cant bang any girl I like, but I do not know any that can. I have many guy friends, and guys I know, and they cant do that either. Probably no one in this forum can. Some of you may bang some of the girls you like, many if you wish, but of course not any you like, as if you had a magic wand.
If I want to know about her past, of course I do it in a way that makes her believe I find almost anything ok, as long as she is telling me about. Lol.

AlexDeLarge: yes, its an ego boost for her and for me as well, and its good to do sometimes.
But lets say you meet a girl in a club. Ten minutes later you're making out, and this girl becomes your gf. What a way to start your relationship, dont you think? I mean, with one of my exes I could have made out with her the first time I met her (in a party) but I prefered to wait till the third time when we were just at the cinema, and we knew each other a bit more.


P.S.

I understand that the only reason you find it ok for women to have lots of sex with random guys, making out with dozens of guys, etc etc is because this way you are one of the guys they are ****ing.
I find this ok, but in order for a LTR, I seek for a girl that behaves differently.
For random sex, these girls just do ok.

 

[morepoonplease]

I don't even care anymore, when I was younger I did. But as you get older all the ladies you meet have been around the block a bit. And you don't even have to ask them if they have, you can tell by how they act and what they say. Heck I would love to take a girl out I knew I was going to score with at the end of the night. Now flip the script and have them pay for you!? C'mon that's a no brainer to a broke college girl.

Lets be honest you're standards wouldn't be so high too if you could go out for free and get laid any time you wanted to with anyone even remotely at your appearance level.

Now what you do need to do is use this information to gauge how much of a little tramp she is. If I feel a girl is a little too slvtty and capable of banging one of my friends behind my back for example I would prolly just hit it and quit it. As long as her past does not cause me any inconvenience I really don't care. And as long as the cooties still tight i'm ok.

My metality is that lets say I could marry the porn star of my choice by some kind of strange lottery. Am I gonna be all hung up on all the other dudes that have crushed her in the past? So would I just pass that up?... negative blue leader i'm hitting that porn style until my nuts shrivel up. Arm candy at the family gatherings and all, with pride. "Hi mom this is my girlfriend, I love her so much! Mom? are you ok?"

In the end I am the leader of my pride, a poon pounding beast with little regard for such intricacies as her previous suitors. Always looking forward never back. The only thing I care about is what she does in front of me. And the things that affect my day to day life. She either stays in line with me or it's off to fend for herself in the wild for her.

Anyways as soon as a girl even thinks your trying to judge her on her past the lie switch gets turned on and you will never get any semblance of honesty from her. You become a stupid dork to be managed with lies.

Be a man, get over that crap bro. Be the LION bangin pride HOs.

Now this is what I've been looking for someone who makes fvcking sense... I need to throw away a lot of insecurities still my last relationshiP was all lies due to this way of thinking and it makes a lot of sense what you are saying.

 

[Zarky]

"Making out" is not considered very sexual by women these days. Listen to Mystery about it. Club chicks will make out with a guy and then not remember him the next time. It's like dancing to them. Ever danced with some chick at a club and then forgot about her forever? Same idea.

 

[vatoloco]

Carry mouthwash.

 

[SoSuave666]

Hi.





SoSuave666: Im not pedestalizing any future girlfriend of mine. I expect her to have a brain, be a responsible smart woman, and I expect her also to give secks not just because she's a *****. I dont want a nun but definetely not a slut. As I said, I now girls that are sluts, that go from one guy to another, and the rest that seek relationships and choose carefully who they have sex with.
It is not the same if we talk about a young girl, or a girl who's now 27. So I dont expect the same history from these two girls.

I'll only address this part as it is directed at me. This thread started as a thread dedicated to women who make out at clubs. As I said, not all women do this. The majority, and it is pretty much fact, do. Imagine this conversation with your future gf:

Pyro: So, have you like, made out with guys in clubs that you just met before ???

Her: Yes of course you idiot it's the 21st century.

Pyro: But, you're like my angel. How could you do those things? Have you ever slept with someone who wasn't your boyfriend?

Her: Well, this one time a really cute guy got my gina tingling, and yea, we banged. He did it so hard that I couldn't walk the next day. Much better than you. In fact, why am I still here? All these questions are really invasive and I haven't even asked you one question about your past. Are you this insecure? Isn't it enough that I'm with you?

Pyro: ...No you have to be the perfect virgin woman until you are with me. Then you can be my little slvt.

Obviously I use hyperbole to get my point across. But do you see how not only could a conversation like this with your girlfriend turn her off but would give you more information than you ever wanted to know? I completely understand wanting a girl who has few sexual partners. In this day and age though, where contraceptives are easily accessible and feminists preach the sexual liberation of women, it is reasonable to assume that most women have done things in their past that a.) they won't tell you or b.) will be ashamed to tell you.

You need to be comfortable enough with the woman of your choosing that you don't care about her past. Am I saying that if a woman has slept with over 100 men I'm OK with that? No, I'm not. But if she has had 10, is that so bad? If she has had 3 or 4 ONS am I going to cry about it? Absolutely not.

I will give you this point: there is a difference between having secks with a ONS and a potential gf. For ONS, I honestly don't care who they have slept with as long as they are clean. For a potential gf, I guess my range would be something like between 0-15. Even with that range, I'd never ask. And if she offered her history to me, and it was 17, would I make it a deal breaker? I don't think so.

 

[bigneil]

And common sense can be overwhelmed by narcissism and validation seeking.

(Read: PairPlusRoyalFlush never scored in 10 minutes).

Remember guys: if you don't score, you were AFC. If you do score, you either paid for sex, or you're narcissistic to tell anyone. Never share success stories here, particularly if you have 8 in a span of 3 weeks. Nobody here wants to know details on how to score lots of hot women fast.

 

[bigneil]

"Making out" is not considered very sexual by women these days.

Not sure about this. Granted, if they only kiss you it's nothing. But with my last relationship we had sex the first night, but the kissing got more and more intense over time, peaking at about the 4 month mark. I never felt closer to her.

 

[SgtSplacker]

I guess it might be passable to have these high standards when you're younger. But when you're older it could actually harm you because lets face it. It's just not being very realistic at all.

How can it hurt you? If a woman wants you she wants you, and she is going to do what she has to do to get what she wants. Very rarely are women completely honest about their sexual history, because basically... it's none of your business, you probably don't really want to hear it anyways. And the standards women know they are being held to are just too strict to allow for a crazy night and her still not being labeled a slut. And to be honest I think it's a little unfair. I mean c'mon everyone wants to go out have a great time and end the evening with some good sex. That's what it's all about.

And this is how it can hurt you. Because it starts her off lieing to you. Now i'm not gonna go so far as to say that otherwise she would be completely honest with you. But lets at least try to have one of those "honest" relationships I hear folks talking about. Honesty is just as much about being tolerant as it is being forthright with another person. And by not being tolerant then maybe you're the one not really supporting fairness and honesty and not her. Because after all you're the one with all the morals and ideology here, she just likes you... so far. So you really need to create the proper roads so she can drive her love wagon into your heart... get it? Right now all I see are road blocks...

 

[TNbuckeye]

I've always had 2 rules.
1: Never get with a girl you slept with the first night. If you did, who else has?
2: Never get with a girl that was cheating with you. If she was doin it with you she'll do it to you

 

[Nutz]

Not only making out in the club, imagine if she's the type of ho that goes home with guys the first night she meets them. Women these days are slutty as hell, more than ever before in history I'd wager.

My advice is you need to screen them and choose wisely. OR just pump & dump and don't get into serious relationships with them.

 

[Nik TPT]

I wouldn't be able to blame her because I do the exact same thing.

 

[runner83]

Not only making out in the club, imagine if she's the type of ho that goes home with guys the first night she meets them. Women these days are slutty as hell, more than ever before in history I'd wager.

My advice is you need to screen them and choose wisely. OR just pump & dump and don't get into serious relationships with them.

Agree in theory.

But the simple fact is that you'll never know.

OP, stop wasting your time even wondering or asking, since she'll never tell you the truth anyway.

 

[bigneil]

As long as she doesn't have a disease and isn't jaded by the events of her life, who really cares where she's been?

 

[Nutz]

As long as she doesn't have a disease and isn't jaded by the events of her life, who really cares where she's been?

Because sluts make bad wives.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/why-sluts-make-bad-wives/

 

[bigneil]

First, I would argue that an unjaded, disease-free woman is not a slut. A slut is a woman who has become jaded by her own bad decisions.

Second, ALL women make bad wives. So why would you EVER want to marry one?

Read "Women's Infidelity". ALL women want another man within 4 years. Society has lied to us forever about this. Why would some countries barbarically resort to actually removing the woman's ****oris at birth if women were naturally monogamous?

Why get upset about it? It's like worrying that you might get struck by lightning. The threat is constant so just accept it as the norm.

The study is flawed as it assumes that women who have only one partner did so by choice, or that they have the same sex drive as normal women. And how many HB9's qualify for that?

 

[Nutz]

Dalrock weighs in on what makes a slut:

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/slut/

 

[garruk]

I wanted to start a thread about this a while back, but never got around to it. My thread was more geared towards ONS, but hell this is close enough.

These women are all our future wives and girlfriends. Hell, they are some of our sisters too. Women are women are women are women. They are all the same. If they haven't made out with someone they just met at a club then I would probably think something weird is going on with them psychologically. There is no double standard in my eyes anymore. Women go out sometimes with the same mentality that men go out with. Some times they just want to fvck. Some times they want to make out. It's about attention some times, ego boosting, or some times they just want to get a d1ck inside them to feel good. Don't worry about this. EVERY girl does it. Don't ask about it, just assume they have done it. As long as when they are with you they are faithful, that's all that matters. Worrying about their past is FAR too controlling. Women like to have fun, man. And if there weren't girls out there making out and having secks with dudes on the first night, where would we all be?

i've really only recently come around to this type of thinking too. great post. tough to wrap your head around sometimes because of the double standards our society puts in place... btu yeah.