ELMER_GANTRY
Don Juan
What is a relationship? A relationship is a period of time that two people spend together. It is a mutual verbal agreement, like a pact, that two people make that they will be committed to each other. It is not bound by law or written in stone, and one, or the other, or both, can end it anytime or for whatever reason they choose.
That is why this whole argument about guys going after girls that have boyfriends is ridiculous. Is it right? Not from an ethical point probably, but there is no law or anything that says you can't. I've seen how girls treat relationships first hand, from seeing what they did to friends of mine, girls I meet, hooked up with, made out with, and I can tell you that they have no regard for relationships whatsoever. They fall in love, and a week later they lose interest in the guy, saying "he is not what I thought" "wasn't the guy for me" and they move on to the next. If some other guy was there showing them attention they would take it and have mutual interest.
An ambitous man goes out and gets what he wants. If he sees a girl he likes, and doesn't like the ones available to him, he will show interest and maybe pursue a taken girl to see what signs or mutual interest she gives him. A lot of guys on here seem to be upset about that. That is how it is in the real world, getting what you want, and nothing is gonna stop that. It all boils down to the woman. Read that again. It is the WOMAN who chooses what to do in this situation. Beautiful girls (even average ones) have guys hitting on them and pursuing them all the time. Guys want a piece of that regardless if she has a boyfriend or not. Nothing is gonna stop them. It is up to the WOMAN to decide if she wants their advances or not. If she loves her boyfriend and is happy with him, no guy in the world can sweep her off her feet and take her away from her man. On the other hand, if she gets bored or is looking for someting better, then yes, she will test the waters and look for a better catch. I know a lot of hot girls who have boyfriends, because hot girls are the ones usually taken first. The left overs and homily pickings are the ones that remain usually with guys that show no interest at all. Those hot girls showed an interest in me, I was the better catch, and was I going to just say no because she is taken? Hell no, if she wants me she will do anything she can to be with me. I wasn't stealing her away, she was coming to me, and yes guys do that, but like I said, it is the WOMAN'S choice to take the offer or not. It all stays with her. Do I go out and pursue taken women? of course not, but if she shows an interest, I'm not going to pass it up, because somewhere in her mind there is a flaw with her man, and she is looking for something better. So If I don't take the opportunity that is presented before me with her, some other guy is going to come along and nail her instead. She will want to be banged by someone, it might as well be me. Doesn't matter if she is taken or not, it is HER choice what actions she chooses.
Women want what they can't have. No matter how much they say they are into you, and how well you treat them, there is always some other guy that has better looks, more money, better personality, and the same girl that tells you how much they love/like you, and thinks how great you are, will leave you for that other guy, just because they think they can gain something better.
This is so true, and I've seen this time and time again. I've gone out to the clubs, to the bars, wherever, and I (and seen other guys) talk to some girls and they casually will mention after the convo gets going for a while that they have a boyfriend. Do I care about that? No. Would other guys? maybe yes and some no. She doesn't care about her boyfriend, otherwise she wouldn't be talking to me and showing that much interest. It is a test to see how I (and they) react to that. She is giving her signs to go ahead and it is YOUR choice to follow through or not. I'm not chasing her, and stealing her, she is coming to me, and wants ME to follow through. I've seen guys make out with girls who had boyfriends, I've made out with them and taken them home. Because in her mind, me, or the other guys she was talking to, making out with, going home with, is better than her boyfriend. She sees better qualities, something she wants and can't have. Feels that she can gain something better. So she chooses me, or the other guys over her boyfriend, even though she will say how much she loves/likes that guy. Doesn't matter, she found something that was better in her mind.
For Example, my friend Derek had a great girl named Lindsey, or so he thought. She was beautiful, funny, great personality, and everything a guy could want in a girl, or so they say. He was a great boyfriend, did everything right, wasn't AFC or anything like that. She was happy and he was happy. Said how much she liked him and all that stuff. Had the myspace and facebook pictures of the two of them, trips, parties, outings, love quotes, you name it, it was there. Somewhere along the line, some guy named Tony started talking to her on myspace or facebook, doesn't really matter which one, but he did. The convos got more and more and she was taking an interest in this guy. They hung out behind Derek's back and she added him as a friend. Derek got mad and asked who this guy was. She said it was a friend (the classic line they use) she hung out with him again and I guess they hooked up. After her feelings for this guy Tony developed, Lindsey left Derek for Tony. Tony was better looking, had a nice car, had more status, and made more money than Derek. She left Derek because Tony was something she wanted and couldn't have because she was with Derek and this guy was playing hard to get. He had better qualities, looks, money, status. So no matter how much Lindsey said she liked Derek, she left him for something she felt she could gain with Tony who she felt had better qualities. This happens all the time with women and relationships.
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Originally Posted by MusicMan450
If you KNOW a girl has a boyfriend, why would you even go for her?
Because people want what they can't have. If a guy sees a girl he wants he will go out and get her regardless of whether she is single or not. Does that make it right? That is your call on that. It is up to the girl to decide if she welcomes that guys advances or not. If she loves her boyfriend she won't, but if she has reservations and thinks this other guy is a better catch, she will. This is nothing new. This has been happening since the beginning of time and will go on until the end. Men chasing other women, and women chasing other men. It's the game you play in relationships and sometmes you get burned. Same way with women, they will fight and claw, tooth and nail, to get with a guy, and they don't care what they do to get him. Happened with me several times, and it is awesome I think, to see women fighting with each other trying to accomplish that feat. Women will seduce men to get with him to leave another girl....so it goes both ways in the game of love and relationships.
It's having respect for a fellow man.
haha gotta love this one...respect for the fellow man. What are we in colonial times?
This is for the guys who are uptight about this subject.
For example, if some guy was banging your girlfriend do you think he is going to respect you? Hell no, he couldn't care less about you. Is he going to feel emasculated and feel like a p**** for doing that? No way man, he already got in hers and I bet he would feel that you're emasculated because he's the one banging her and you're not. While he's doing that, you're sitting at home crying with your d*** in your hand. Not to sound so harsh, but that is exactly what that guy will think of you if you have that kind of thinking. It is absolutely true. It happens time and time again. So don't think or be that way.
Two weeks ago, I had a girl come over to my place and I found out that she had a boyfriend. Did I care? no, not really. It was her choice and she chose me over him. And I can tell you one thing...I wasn't thinking about respecting my fellow man, and she wasn't thinking of her boyfriend while she was riding me on my couch.
That is why this whole argument about guys going after girls that have boyfriends is ridiculous. Is it right? Not from an ethical point probably, but there is no law or anything that says you can't. I've seen how girls treat relationships first hand, from seeing what they did to friends of mine, girls I meet, hooked up with, made out with, and I can tell you that they have no regard for relationships whatsoever. They fall in love, and a week later they lose interest in the guy, saying "he is not what I thought" "wasn't the guy for me" and they move on to the next. If some other guy was there showing them attention they would take it and have mutual interest.
An ambitous man goes out and gets what he wants. If he sees a girl he likes, and doesn't like the ones available to him, he will show interest and maybe pursue a taken girl to see what signs or mutual interest she gives him. A lot of guys on here seem to be upset about that. That is how it is in the real world, getting what you want, and nothing is gonna stop that. It all boils down to the woman. Read that again. It is the WOMAN who chooses what to do in this situation. Beautiful girls (even average ones) have guys hitting on them and pursuing them all the time. Guys want a piece of that regardless if she has a boyfriend or not. Nothing is gonna stop them. It is up to the WOMAN to decide if she wants their advances or not. If she loves her boyfriend and is happy with him, no guy in the world can sweep her off her feet and take her away from her man. On the other hand, if she gets bored or is looking for someting better, then yes, she will test the waters and look for a better catch. I know a lot of hot girls who have boyfriends, because hot girls are the ones usually taken first. The left overs and homily pickings are the ones that remain usually with guys that show no interest at all. Those hot girls showed an interest in me, I was the better catch, and was I going to just say no because she is taken? Hell no, if she wants me she will do anything she can to be with me. I wasn't stealing her away, she was coming to me, and yes guys do that, but like I said, it is the WOMAN'S choice to take the offer or not. It all stays with her. Do I go out and pursue taken women? of course not, but if she shows an interest, I'm not going to pass it up, because somewhere in her mind there is a flaw with her man, and she is looking for something better. So If I don't take the opportunity that is presented before me with her, some other guy is going to come along and nail her instead. She will want to be banged by someone, it might as well be me. Doesn't matter if she is taken or not, it is HER choice what actions she chooses.
Women want what they can't have. No matter how much they say they are into you, and how well you treat them, there is always some other guy that has better looks, more money, better personality, and the same girl that tells you how much they love/like you, and thinks how great you are, will leave you for that other guy, just because they think they can gain something better.
This is so true, and I've seen this time and time again. I've gone out to the clubs, to the bars, wherever, and I (and seen other guys) talk to some girls and they casually will mention after the convo gets going for a while that they have a boyfriend. Do I care about that? No. Would other guys? maybe yes and some no. She doesn't care about her boyfriend, otherwise she wouldn't be talking to me and showing that much interest. It is a test to see how I (and they) react to that. She is giving her signs to go ahead and it is YOUR choice to follow through or not. I'm not chasing her, and stealing her, she is coming to me, and wants ME to follow through. I've seen guys make out with girls who had boyfriends, I've made out with them and taken them home. Because in her mind, me, or the other guys she was talking to, making out with, going home with, is better than her boyfriend. She sees better qualities, something she wants and can't have. Feels that she can gain something better. So she chooses me, or the other guys over her boyfriend, even though she will say how much she loves/likes that guy. Doesn't matter, she found something that was better in her mind.
For Example, my friend Derek had a great girl named Lindsey, or so he thought. She was beautiful, funny, great personality, and everything a guy could want in a girl, or so they say. He was a great boyfriend, did everything right, wasn't AFC or anything like that. She was happy and he was happy. Said how much she liked him and all that stuff. Had the myspace and facebook pictures of the two of them, trips, parties, outings, love quotes, you name it, it was there. Somewhere along the line, some guy named Tony started talking to her on myspace or facebook, doesn't really matter which one, but he did. The convos got more and more and she was taking an interest in this guy. They hung out behind Derek's back and she added him as a friend. Derek got mad and asked who this guy was. She said it was a friend (the classic line they use) she hung out with him again and I guess they hooked up. After her feelings for this guy Tony developed, Lindsey left Derek for Tony. Tony was better looking, had a nice car, had more status, and made more money than Derek. She left Derek because Tony was something she wanted and couldn't have because she was with Derek and this guy was playing hard to get. He had better qualities, looks, money, status. So no matter how much Lindsey said she liked Derek, she left him for something she felt she could gain with Tony who she felt had better qualities. This happens all the time with women and relationships.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MusicMan450
If you KNOW a girl has a boyfriend, why would you even go for her?
Because people want what they can't have. If a guy sees a girl he wants he will go out and get her regardless of whether she is single or not. Does that make it right? That is your call on that. It is up to the girl to decide if she welcomes that guys advances or not. If she loves her boyfriend she won't, but if she has reservations and thinks this other guy is a better catch, she will. This is nothing new. This has been happening since the beginning of time and will go on until the end. Men chasing other women, and women chasing other men. It's the game you play in relationships and sometmes you get burned. Same way with women, they will fight and claw, tooth and nail, to get with a guy, and they don't care what they do to get him. Happened with me several times, and it is awesome I think, to see women fighting with each other trying to accomplish that feat. Women will seduce men to get with him to leave another girl....so it goes both ways in the game of love and relationships.
It's having respect for a fellow man.
haha gotta love this one...respect for the fellow man. What are we in colonial times?
This is for the guys who are uptight about this subject.
For example, if some guy was banging your girlfriend do you think he is going to respect you? Hell no, he couldn't care less about you. Is he going to feel emasculated and feel like a p**** for doing that? No way man, he already got in hers and I bet he would feel that you're emasculated because he's the one banging her and you're not. While he's doing that, you're sitting at home crying with your d*** in your hand. Not to sound so harsh, but that is exactly what that guy will think of you if you have that kind of thinking. It is absolutely true. It happens time and time again. So don't think or be that way.
Two weeks ago, I had a girl come over to my place and I found out that she had a boyfriend. Did I care? no, not really. It was her choice and she chose me over him. And I can tell you one thing...I wasn't thinking about respecting my fellow man, and she wasn't thinking of her boyfriend while she was riding me on my couch.