Girls not giving out their numbers

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Heaven forbid you lose out on that prized Pvzzy. That's some needy desperation talking.
I think we're here to get laid, not to change society.

long term, that sort of thing wouldn't be ideal, but who the fvck meets a long term girlfriend on some website full of fat slvts?
 

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I think we're here to get laid, not to change society.

long term, that sort of thing wouldn't be ideal, but who the fvck meets a long term girlfriend on some website full of fat slvts?
They ain't all fat. maybe where you live. And if you're here specifically to get "laid" not only are your priorities in life out of whack but you pretty much just admitted you're here because you need help getting laid
 

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They ain't all fat. maybe where you live.
well plenty are fat, but plenty aren't fat, last I checked at least.

And if you're here specifically to get "laid" not only are your priorities in life out of whack
I mean the only other thing I really care about is playing video games, reading comics, watching movies, etc. and I won't get my paycheck til next week so...

but you pretty much just admitted you're here because you need help getting laid
that's why I came here all those years ago, I've come so far, but I've still got a long way to go before I become some wise guru who gives advice to the newbies here
 

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I've had two girls thru online dating in the past week agree to meet me but did not want to give out their number. One wanted to use KIK. I refused and told her I was no longer interested.

I told the second one that I don't meet with people that don't give out their number. She understood and told me she had a bad experience so she no longer does then says "well I guess we weren't meant to be". I'm thinking...thanks for lumping me in the same category. Maybe you should screen better.

So is this the newest layer of protection they use to guard against guys that get pissed when they flake, or won't stop texting them, etc?

Are you guys agreeing to dates with these girls?
That is irrelevant these days. Your goal isn't to text them to death, your goal is to get them on a date with you and having their number or not is irrelevant to this. When you are on the date and they end up liking you they will give you their number before you leave. I've had this happen several times, I've also had it happen several times where I've met a woman without even asking for her number. It's made no difference in the outcome of the date and/or outcome of me banging her.

Guys need to just stop reading into every little thing so damn much and just get the girl out on a date for God's sake...
 

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I agree much of this is a circle jerk. But the younger girls use social media as primary communication means. Even Facebook is functionally obsolete to them.

I'm with @Howiestern that if a woman won't make it easy she isn't interested. I mean what a stupid answer "I had a bad experience once"...

I mean A) what the Sam Hill does THAT mean and more importantly

B) how is that related to you?

Men worth dating know better than to waste time anyway. The artist I am seeing didn't text me at all until just before our first date. And by just before I mean 10 minutes before...to let me know where he was seated in the venue. Rather he asked me out for a specific day/time/place/location right over the dating platform. I said yes and showed up. Simple.

Don't put up with BS and get all complicated. You don't want Miss Fussbucket Bossypants! If that who she is....ABORT!
This "artist" you always speak of, is he formerly the artist formerly known as? Had he purchased you a raspberry beret to match your chanel outfit? Dead men tell no secrets. Plus he'd never be able to leave you being deceased and all even if he technically went ghost.

Or his he an artist in the form of pick up? There's several other "artists" residing here too if "artistry" is your thing.
 
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Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I agree much of this is a circle jerk. But the younger girls use social media as primary communication means. Even Facebook is functionally obsolete to them.

I'm with @Howiestern that if a woman won't make it easy she isn't interested. I mean what a stupid answer "I had a bad experience once"...

I mean A) what the Sam Hill does THAT mean and more importantly

B) how is that related to you?

Men worth dating know better than to waste time anyway. The artist I am seeing didn't text me at all until just before our first date. And by just before I mean 10 minutes before...to let me know where he was seated in the venue. Rather he asked me out for a specific day/time/place/location right over the dating platform. I said yes and showed up. Simple.

Don't put up with BS and get all complicated. You don't want Miss Fussbucket Bossypants! If that who she is....ABORT!
Yes, little miss fussbucket bossypants, gets the dust from my shoes as I'm walking away.

Far away!!!
 

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Oh boy, this is what happens when you lose the ability to meet women in real life. What is the world coming to.
Nothing can or will replace "in person' interactions. They are extremely stimulating, and challenging.
 

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This "artist" you always speak of, is he formerly the artist formerly known as? Had he purchased you a raspberry beret to match your chanel outfit? Dead men tell no secrets. Plus he'd never be able to leave you being deceased and all even if he technically went ghost.

Or his he an artist in the form of pick up? There's several other "artists" residing here too if "artistry" is your thing.
Prince died, RIP.

He's a painter and ceramicist. He also builds handmade furniture & high end custom homes & commercial space. He owns the rights to work of family members who were well known in the Midcentury period. So he makes a living creating things. Multiple creative income streams. People collect his work and commission things. He is in high end galleries in several major art markets.

He's also smart, wise, funny, sexy, good looking, generous and used to beautiful women. He has solid inner game.
 

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Prince died, RIP.

He's a painter and ceramicist. He also builds handmade furniture & high end custom homes & commercial space. He owns the rights to work of family members who were well known in the Midcentury period. So he makes a living creating things. Multiple creative income streams. People collect his work and commission things. He is in high end galleries in several major art markets.

He's also smart, wise, funny, sexy, good looking, generous and used to beautiful women. He has solid inner game.
thats not solid inner game that's simply being a well connected artist which is why you continue to mention he's an artist every chance you get.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I've had two girls thru online dating in the past week agree to meet me but did not want to give out their number. One wanted to use KIK. I refused and told her I was no longer interested.

I told the second one that I don't meet with people that don't give out their number. She understood and told me she had a bad experience so she no longer does then says "well I guess we weren't meant to be". I'm thinking...thanks for lumping me in the same category. Maybe you should screen better.

So is this the newest layer of protection they use to guard against guys that get pissed when they flake, or won't stop texting them, etc?

Are you guys agreeing to dates with these girls?
Yeah I've had this happen and I would NOT play along with her stupid games. She eventually ended up giving me some number (maybe it was a Google number).

As I've said before, the market is fvcked. The women are out of their god damn minds. This is about to get WORSE as we go along and as social media/online dating "behavior" becomes the NORM for just about every woman in America.

The women are getting more and more ridiculous as the day goes on:

- They are screwing men over in the dating game

- They are deliberately fvcking/making kids with THUGS then picking the "good guy" to clean up the mess (see Ciara and Russell Wilson for a perfect example of this)

- They are screwing men over in Family Court

- They are keeping good Fathers from seeing their kids

- They are promoting that men be ultra-violent criminals because that makes them "feel protected", when all that does is get your a.ss SHOT down in the street by either another criminal or a cop....or gets your a.ss put in jail/prison and once you're there (or dead), she will MOVE on to the next dyck.

We keep SITTING here, just letting the ridiculous fvcking shyt go on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and not saying ENOUGH.

We keep sitting here coming up with STUPID a.ss theories to try to "handle/manage" this shyt, when there's no THEORY for STUPID. It's like a retarded kid throwing shyt against the wall and motherfvckers sitting around saying, "Hmmmm, let's write a DJ Bible on how to get these kids from throwing shyt against the wall." Ummmm, helloooo, they are retarded! The kids are OUT of their god damn mind! There's no THEORY to address that shyt, all you can do is address it with FORCE.

You want to Make America Great Again? How about we start with making Men MEN Again, and taking BACK our fvcking families, our communities, etc., from these RETARDED American women? Stop trying to learn techniques to play within their RETARDED sandbox and instead BLOW the sandbox up and say: "BYTCH, this is HOW it's going to go from now on!"
 

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I had a date recently with a girl that didn't want to give me her ph#.

We communicated through the match app. Well she was late and tried to message me by using my messages that were forwarded to her email. That dosent work.

I ended up leaving after 30 minutes and received a book apology via match latter.
this is something that has crossed my mind.
 

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Yeah I've had this happen and I would NOT play along with her stupid games. She eventually ended up giving me some number (maybe it was a Google number).

As I've said before, the market is fvcked. The women are out of their god damn minds. This is about to get WORSE as we go along and as social media/online dating "behavior" becomes the NORM for just about every woman in America.

The women are getting more and more ridiculous as the day goes on:

- They are screwing men over in the dating game

- They are deliberately fvcking/making kids with THUGS then picking the "good guy" to clean up the mess (see Ciara and Russell Wilson for a perfect example of this)

- They are screwing men over in Family Court

- They are keeping good Fathers from seeing their kids

- They are promoting that men be ultra-violent criminals because that makes them "feel protected", when all that does is get your a.ss SHOT down in the street by either another criminal or a cop....or gets your a.ss put in jail/prison and once you're there (or dead), she will MOVE on to the next dyck.

We keep SITTING here, just letting the ridiculous fvcking shyt go on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and not saying ENOUGH.

We keep sitting here coming up with STUPID a.ss theories to try to "handle/manage" this shyt, when there's no THEORY for STUPID. It's like a retarded kid throwing shyt against the wall and motherfvckers sitting around saying, "Hmmmm, let's write a DJ Bible on how to get these kids from throwing shyt against the wall." Ummmm, helloooo, they are retarded! The kids are OUT of their god damn mind! There's no THEORY to address that shyt, all you can do is address it with FORCE.

You want to Make America Great Again? How about we start with making Men MEN Again, and taking BACK our fvcking families, our communities, etc., from these RETARDED American women? Stop trying to learn techniques to play within their RETARDED sandbox and instead BLOW the sandbox up and say: "BYTCH, this is HOW it's going to go from now on!"
We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

Just joking, but original post that I quoted is spot-on and sums everything up about "gaming" really.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Any response other than a phone number when I ask for it, is an instant NEXT. My asking is a privilege upon an OLD woman--not a request. I could give a fvck about "losing," as who is truly losing?
In my case, it wasn't OLD. I approached the girl and got a "do you have Facebook?" response to getting her number.

I told her I didn't use Facebook, but we could go out now if she was free. She wasn't. The way I see it, if she wanted me have her number, I'd have her number. Next.
 

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In my case, it wasn't OLD. I approached the girl and got a "do you have Facebook?" response to getting her number.

I told her I didn't use Facebook, but we could go out now if she was free. She wasn't. The way I see it, if she wanted me have her number, I'd have her number. Next.
Dumb move. Lots of chicks hook up via FB now. No one is going to go out with you straight away, They need FB to check out who you hang with and to raise their comfort level. You are not celebrity so they need to get comfy with you first.
 

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In my case, it wasn't OLD. I approached the girl and got a "do you have Facebook?" response to getting her number.

I told her I didn't use Facebook, but we could go out now if she was free. She wasn't. The way I see it, if she wanted me have her number, I'd have her number. Next.
Couple years back, one friend of mine had the same response from a girl. I purposefully sought out the girl, gave her identical lines, word-for-word as my friend did, and then asked for the phone number. She coughed it up with no resistance at all.

When a girl is highly interested in you, she will fly across the world and through a mine-field filled with atomic bombs to get to you. If I don't get that type of interest from a woman whatever the reason may be (whether bad pics on OLD, she doesn't know me well enough, a "misunderstanding"), frankly, I'm not interested, as there are thousands of hot women in my immediate vicinity who will.

To the men who never get that interest from a woman: It's time you begin self-improving to get enough value where women chase you. And yes, 9s will chase you too; you don't have to be a celebrity. Get 100% deference or give the boot.
 
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I have the same attitude and experience, however I am open to the slow build up in theory(in practice I have zero time for it). The reason is, the obsessive behavior of women right out of the gate is just an unhealthy, unrealistic idealization phase that I don't believe is necessary for a health relationship going forward. I would view such things with extreme caution in today's dating market.

Of course, just for sex it makes no difference.
Need not be obsessive. All she needs to do is follow my lead, and accept/defer to my requests when provided.
 

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thats not solid inner game that's simply being a well connected artist which is why you continue to mention he's an artist every chance you get.
You sound almost jealous.

Nobody said artist = inner game. Don't be obtuse. I said he has all those other qualities, including inner game as well.

The idea that a woman can't read inner game instantly? Quite silly. Inner game is easy to read, anyone who thinks it takes a year to show inner game doesn't have it. The young 20 somethings seem to forget about experience in life because they don't have much yet relatively speaking. This man is in his early 50s. Inner game comes to a great degree from life experience and how a man carries himself. That has nothing to do with what he does for a living :rolleyes:
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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