Girls comes to a life changing revolution lol.. all the guys she knows just want to..

[VladPatton]

I love when tools like you throw out these completely un-provable passive aggressive qualifying quips. Just reinforces that everything coming out of your keyboard is garbage.

Well put.

 

[YawataNoKami]

Originally Posted by backbreaker
She's smarter the the vast majority of the posters ont his forum

There's a big difference between being smart and being wise.

 

[crazyboy]

if she was so smart she would have realize her guy friend just want to screw her and not build actual friendship. Or is this your oneits your defending.

For the love god danger has been putting this setting boundary bull. Yes you need to set boundaries on what you allow and don't allow. Because if you don't stand for something you fall for anything. But what really need to maintain is attraction and value. Your boundaries don't mean squat if you don't have those 2. Women and Men are going meet and talk with each other. Nothing you can do to stop that the only thing that keeps any woman faithful is there attraction and the value that man poses to her. Eventually you going have to trust this woman and eventually she going want more than ltr with no commitment. Your afraid divorce and child support sh!t i am too. But there are worst thing that can happen to you.


"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important."
Steve Jobs

If you want to build a family and have kids and watch them grow sometimes you going have to say fck it the money you lose in a divorce or any child support payments you wont be able take with you and that money wont remember you. But the family you help create and your friends will. Think about that sometimes the risk is what makes it worth it.

 

[zekko]

Girl is a really good friend of mine, probably my best friend not my wife.

I think this suggests that you are getting too emotionally involved in this chick.

 

[VikingKing]

I think this suggests that you are getting too emotionally involved in this chick.

Yeah. Seems like his wife is not fulfilling his emotional needs. Or he is emotionally bored of his wife?

 

[backbreaker]

I think this suggests that you are getting too emotionally involved in this chick.

i've said this for quite a whie. **** she is. I'm not going to get into a circlejerk argument i'm crazy about my wife, but me and this chick are like brother and sister. my wife loves her, she loves my wife, we're all cool, love her fiancee, we're all cool.


sosuave in general is way too black and white. IRL women and men are friends. not all women are skanks and not all men are virtuous

 

[Alvafe]

i've said this for quite a whie. **** she is. I'm not going to get into a circlejerk argument i'm crazy about my wife, but me and this chick are like brother and sister. my wife loves her, she loves my wife, we're all cool, love her fiancee, we're all cool.


sosuave in general is way too black and white. IRL women and men are friends. not all women are skanks and not all men are virtuous

true but remember most of guys here find this place after they was abused or being naive thinking they could be friends or even thinking she was diferent, but then burned hard.

like I said before my bottom line is I hate everyone till they prove to me they can be trusted, how that happen? over time checking what they do and what they think, i'm used to people around me yells save the world, but given the chance to get something out just for him will burn the same world he says for everyone to save, thus I also belive everyone lie, and you know why? it works, everyone ahave thin glass ego build anything you say can and will break they day and feel butthurt about it(seeing it here actually) even with people they don't know.

you don't need to worry to protect your friend no one here know who she is(I think no one cares), but I do belive there are some good people around, it just hard to find, hence why you spin plates, go out, be friendly, raise your social circle, to get to know more people.

if she is good friend, and you know her fiance and all you 4 are ok with each other its nice for you, but I still don't belive she really was naive about it all, even the weakest of beta will show something, and like I said before I still find strange the guys drop her like that, most would just stick around and wait for her start to get feelings for him.

also it don't matter if you are a men or woman sometimes you will do things your friends will not like same for your friends and you will ask yourself if that person is worthy of your time, and when you think its not, you drop then and move on.

but if you want to over analize it, ask yourself this BB, why she is going after you to cry about it and not her fiancee? I don't know but its something it normally shared with her fiancee, or it was something she told you and your wife together, or everyone?

 

[Kailex]

Is this the same girl that you posted about... your "dog" and how men and women can't be friends and she didn't know if she liked your or not?

I don't think I've ever had that problem with my sister.
In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say, I've NEVER had a problem like that with my sister.

This isn't a "realization" she is coming to. ALL women subconsciously know that sex is on a man's mind. That's why they have orbiters, that's why they reject certain men and don't go out on "dates" with them.

You don't think she knows that every time she goes out with a new guy, he has sex on his mind?

I have plenty of female friends, I'd bang them all if given the chance. They probably know that too.

 

[speed dawg]

Is this the same girl that you posted about... your "dog" and how men and women can't be friends and she didn't know if she liked your or not?

I don't think I've ever had that problem with my sister.
In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say, I've NEVER had a problem like that with my sister.

This isn't a "realization" she is coming to. ALL women subconsciously know that sex is on a man's mind. That's why they have orbiters, that's why they reject certain men and don't go out on "dates" with them.

You don't think she knows that every time she goes out with a new guy, he has sex on his mind?

I have plenty of female friends, I'd bang them all if given the chance. They probably know that too.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219255

Note the title of the post: Men and women can't be friends part 100000

What a douchenozzle. A cancer to this forum.

 

[nismo-4]

You're not friends with a woman unless you banged her.

This woman here is upset at the fact she lost beta orbiters. I rejected a woman's friendzone request and she got pissed. Because I wasn't going to be some orbiter.

All men want to bang their female friends. The problem here is that women actually believe that men and women can be friends. No they cannot. The guy will want sex eventually. If a woman tries to toss me to the friendzone, I'm gone.

Winning for women is different than winning for men. A man has to have sex to win. A woman just needs a man's attention and the fact that he desires her to win. She's often satisfied with just another orbiter.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

We know, the man is bad no matter what. Only a woman could possibly believe this warped logic. ..

Isn't this site about improving yourself.....MEN impoving themselves? Or do you just plan on keeping yourself the same, and instead, changing women?

Would you call a woman insecure for worrying about the man she is in live with cheating on her when it is a well founded worry and the man is ACTUALLY CHEATING ON HER?

You missed the point completely.

If so, your shame word has been squeezed bone dry of all meaning. This NPD sh1t where we deny basic emotional realities needs to go.

Insecurity. Now this is a shame word. Can't say insecurity (even if it's true).

Peak, I don't want to hijack backbreaker's thread here, do you really have to start attacking me?

Says this then continues to lay a 3000 word post about boundaries. But apparently it's my fault you turned this into one of you "boundary" threads?

 

[Soolaimon]

This is why committing to women who keep other men in their lives is a total mistake.

I agree with you. My woman cut men out of her life on her own. I didn't need to prod her to get rid of them like you had to with yours.

But then again you said this in contradiction in another thread.

If she had a few, then I would consider it

It appears you would leave other men in her life.

Nice contradiction!

Shameless plug for your "boundaries", but once again, you are reading into the situation subjectively. And once again contradicting what you've said in earlier posts.

He lies and contradicts himself so much its hard to keep up with the man.

I am not contradicting anything.

This is why committing to women who keep other men in their lives is a total mistake.

If she had a few, then I would consider it

This looks like a contradiction to me. How about you guys?

You are lying again.

As long as Solly and jurry claim that "women who go exclusive do not see other men, therefore you should not have to discuss it"

You are lying again and can't comprehend simple common sense.

I've never claimed that "women who go exclusive do not see other men".

I was fvking women who were exclusive with their boyfriends who chose to break their boundaries cause of the men's low value. that is how I know boundaries are useless and a waste of time.

I've said that women who go exclusive will see other men when she loses attraction and respect for you.

That is why setting boundaries and defining terms is a waste of time cause she is going to break them anyway even though you set a bonudary and defined terms.

Are you that inept?

How many times do I have to explain this to you?

Quit lying about what I've been saying.

It is a PRIME example of a woman keeping guy friends around when Solly and Jurry claim that women don't do this and therefore there is no need to communicate your definition of exclusivity.

What is with you lying all the time?

Are you lying in order to make yourself appear to win "your argument" or do you have severe memory lapses or poor reading comprehension?

I've never claimed that in my life. Quit lying.

I've said many times that women are attracted to High Value men.

They won't need another man when she is attracted to him.

When she loses interest she will have other men and your boundary and your definition won't matter to her anymore.

I've also said that women will keep other men around when the man is a beta or low value.

Setting boundaries and giving her definitions won't matter cause she won't follow them when she loses interest or the guy is low value.

Are you clear about that now?

Reality continues to support my argument, whether it is pointing out how Solly and Jurry are wrong in their assessment on girls knowing they shouldn't hang out with other men

Delusion continues to support your fallacy cause women will hang out with other men when she doesn't respect you or if you don't have high enough value.

She won't care about your boundary or "your terms" cause she doesn't respect you enough to follow them.

She will sneak around with other man and fvk them behind your back even with your definition.

Just like that girl did with me putting my name in her phone as "Uncle Max" to camouflage me from her insecure beta boyfriend that she dumped a few months later.

She broke his boundary and terms with no problem.

I guess you still can't understand the concept of respect, attraction, and value. pertaining to women

I guess you think as long as you set your boundary and "your terms" your woman will view you as an "alpha" and will follow your terms even when her IL goes down to 0 not sleeping with or wanting other men.

Severe delusion!

Quit lying about my statements, stop contradicting yourself, learn how to read and understand the written word!

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

You did the first 3000 word post cupcake. So yes, you started it.

Moreover it was a 3000 word post filled mainly with insults.

Right. I started it. Did you see post #4?

As long as Solly and jurry claim that "women who go exclusive do not see other men, therefore you should not have to discuss it", I will point out every time they are wrong, which is frequently. This being a perfect example.

See, you say this^, then you say this:

If she is too stupid to know what they are after, she is not worth committing to.
If she knows what they want, but still thinks she should be able to "date" them, she is not worth committing to.

You don't see the contradiction?

Just as it pisses you off whenever I link to Exceptions terrible advice where a guy's gf was fvking her "male friend" who she was having 1-on-1 "dates" with. Yes, I said the word date, because we all KNOW that 1-on-1 is a date, no matter how much that p1sses you off too.

This is a beta mindset filled with insecurity: Any guy she is hanging out with she is doing so because she attracted to him.

You really need to stop preaching this black and white fear based mindset.

 

[crazyboy]

boundaries are like line on a map eventually they will change. I'm not in scarcity mindset at all. I just dont want to chase tail all my life. There got to be more to life than getting my **** wet. but anyway you keep your strong boundaries which most post on this site prove than women gives no fck about your boundaries you need to have attraction and value. Hell to keep your friends you need to have value in with that people respect your boundaries

 

[dasein]

Give her a copy of "Being and Nothingness."

"Another of Sartre’s examples involves a young woman on a first date. She ignores the obvious sexual implications of her date's compliments to her physical appearance, but accepts them instead as words directed at her as a human consciousness. As he takes her hand, she lets it rest indifferently in his, refusing either to return the gesture or to rebuke it. Thus she delays the moment when she must choose to either acknowledge and reject his advances, or submit to them. She conveniently considers her hand only a thing in the world, and his compliments as unrelated to her body, playing on her dual human reality as a physical being, and as a consciousness separate and free from this physicality.

Sartre tells us that by acting in bad faith, the waiter and the woman are denying their own freedom, but actively using this freedom itself. They manifestly know they are free but do not acknowledge it. Bad faith is paradoxical in this regard: when acting in bad faith, a person is both aware and, in a sense, unaware that they are free."

 

[Soolaimon]

Strawman twister of words. Danger, is it possible for you to stop being a little pu$$y a$$ ***** who has to change definitions of words in order to support his arguments?

Danger does that in each post lying and changing his words full of contradiction.

That proves his argument has failed and he can't grasp the concept of his own boundary theory.

Pathetic!

If she is too stupid to know what they are after, she is not worth committing to.

Isn't your girlfriend too stupid to know since you had to define what exclusive means to her?

Why did you commit to your woman when she is not worth committing to according to you?

Why did you commit to your woman when she couldn't understand what exclusive means?

Amazing contradiction here!

If she is too stupid to know what they are after, she is not worth committing to.

Women need to be taught what is respectful for a relationship.

Most girls have never been taught was is respectful in a relationship.

She doesn't know any better so when the time comes that she wants to, she will engage in behavior unacceptable for a committed relationship.

Your many contradictions.

How do you explain this?

Committing to a woman that hangs out 1-on-1 with other men who undoubtedly want to fvk her is disrespectful to the relationship. Only a beta would tolerate such crap in a committed relationship

If she had a few, then I would consider it

Another contradiction!

How many of these are you going to make?

You must be a beta yourself since you are considering her to have a few men in a committed relationship.

Solly and Jurry claim women will never keep other men around because they inherently know what "exclusive" means.

More lies and contradictions.

You are lying again after I called you out on the previous page.

You can't understand what I'm saying or even understand your own useless boundary theory with all your lies and contradictions.

Women will keep other men around when women don't value their man.

That is why I say your boundary theory is useless and you keep arguing for it.

Are you really that stupid?

Looks like you are confused about women again.

Women know what exclusive means.

It is their choice to follow through with the exclusivity.

If they don't want to follow through with it they won't even though you defined "your terms" to her.

Does that finally sink in?

Solly and Jurry are wrong on that count.

You are wrong cause your phony boundary theory has been proven to be useless with your many lies and contradictions you tell.

You don't even understand the concept your own boundary theory.

Hilarious!

 

[zekko]

It's understandable that all these guys wanted to bang her. It's a different story for them to say "That's all you had to offer, and now since that's not happening, you can p!ss off".

On the other hand, I have to admire their willingness to step aside, now that they know she is spoken for. If they've been orbiting, better for them at least to get on with their lives this way.

 

[zekko]

Well of course you need to have attraction and value, this is a given. It is the existence of those which allow you to overtly state your definition of exclusivity when she asks for it.

Most posts on this site are from people with low value, no boundaries and are lucky to even have gotten their d1ck wet once. That is why they are here. Moreover, that is why they fear suddenly risking a chance at the pu$$y they have been starved of for most of their lives.

Agreed, most posters here are inexperienced and naive, and are here to learn. Also, they are trying to learn short term mating strategies, which you have to know before you can move on to longer term mating strategies.

I don't think we should hijack this thread, however. There are several other threads to continue the boundary discussion. As it is, right now it's spread out over at least three or four.