Girls are superficial, they care about a guy's personality, but this is no paradox

[Warrior74]

I understand now, but I was disappointed a while ago. You see, I was starting to believe that I could attract super models. Never lacked social skills. Only succes. Talked to a lot of girls, got a lot of hurt. I'm not going to blame external factors like looks, because that's weak.

But after many failures, I now believe I'm not going to get girls by luck, or by negging, or by ignoring girls, or by not putting girls on a pedestral. Game hasn't done anything for me. I just have to be a normal social person wit a back bone. So this is what I'm going to do: I'm going to work a lot, making a lot of money, buy a suit, a golden watch, and a big car. Build a big social network. And then watch what happends. Just spreading the word for other guys who keep trying but also keep failing. Status and looks. That must be it if all else fails.

What have you done as far as game goes? I mean people say that, but then what have you tried? Who have you studied? Do you have field reports? How many approaches have you done? It's like taking karate for a month, getting your ass kicked in a fight and saying karate doesn't work for me. How much work have you put into your game? I'm not saying you haven't, I'm just curious to why you would say that.

How many failures exactly? What do you consider failure? What do you consider success? I'm just curious, because people's definitions tend to be fluid and other people read your post and draw the wrong conclusions. One guys failure may be to F close, the other guys failure may be to find a wife. It's all relative. Many failures might be 10 number rejections or 2 F close rejections...depends on the guy. So what's your definition?

 

[J. Darko]

What have you done as far as game goes? I mean people say that, but then what have you tried? Who have you studied? Do you have field reports? How many approaches have you done? It's like taking karate for a month, getting your ass kicked in a fight and saying karate doesn't work for me. How much work have you put into your game? I'm not saying you haven't, I'm just curious to why you would say that.

How many failures exactly? What do you consider failure? What do you consider success? I'm just curious, because people's definitions tend to be fluid and other people read your post and draw the wrong conclusions. One guys failure may be to F close, the other guys failure may be to find a wife. It's all relative. Many failures might be 10 number rejections or 2 F close rejections...depends on the guy. So what's your definition?

I fail when a girl doesn't have any interest in me at all. A girl who doesn't want to talk to me, date me, kiss me, hug me, f.ck me or relationship me. I fail all the time.

Yet, I have changed my attitude over the years. When I was 16, I was the guy that would listen to her stories. Who would try to help girls with their problems. I was also the guy who would cheer up sad people that were hiding in their basements and dark corners of the club. And I was the guy who helped shy guys to get a girlfriend by cold approaching girls in clubs and saying: hey, that guy really likes you, why don't you go and dance with him? Secretely I hoped they would like me more than my shy friends because of my courage to talk to them. But I never got a girlfriend.

When I was 18 I realised the soft non selfish approach doesn't work. So I became an ass hole. If somebody would ask me to do something for me, I would tell them to f.ck off. If a girl came to me to talk about her problems, I said that I wasn't interested in her problems since she would f.ck the guy she had problems with anyway. But, I never got a girlfriend.

When I was 20 I realised that I shouldn't act like some stereotypical softy or an ass hole. I stopped caring wether I had a girlfriend or not, studying hard, being nice, but also maintaining a backbone. But I never got a girlfriend.

Now I'm 22 without any succes, and I come to the conclusion that girls don't like me. So I'm going to marry my study, my work and my Squat Rack.

Of course, over the years, I talked to many women. But since this is becoming a big post already, I'll keep it short. Girls insult me, ignore me, or I get a long just fine with girls but in those cases they made it clear very early that they are not interested. For example, girls I study with in college mention their boyfriend in 5 minutes. Girls at a party or in the club are not talkative when I'm around. Example of a cold approach conversation at a club or party:

[Eye contact, lI smile a little, look the other way, drink up my glass of water/whine/beer/coke and put it away, walk to the girl from the side]
[Slight touch on her shoulder]

Darko: Hi, my name is J. Darko.
[I shake her hand]
Girl: Hi, I'm Ashley
Darko: Who are you with?
Girl: My girlfriends

[I say hi to all her surrounding girlfriends, ask their names]
So how you're all feeling tonight?

Girl: I'm fine.
Darko: I've never been here before. I wonder if this place is cool enough to visit more often.
Girl: yeah, it's fun.
Darko: Ok
Darko: So I guess you live and study here as well.
girl: yeah.
Darko: Ok. Good evening.

At this point I walk away. Her answers are short, I feel like interviewing this girl, she doesn't ask any questions back. Therefore, I didn't even ask her number because the conversation didn't go too well.

So that's how it ends most of the time, if I'm lucky enough not to get ignored or insulted right away. Now I'm getting tired after all those years of fail. I'm angry, bitter, hateful and it takes too much energy for me to approach and get rejected again. What am I? A slave? Am I born to do my best to get girls to like me? Is that how life is? No. I don't want to be a slave. I don't want to do my best for girls anymore. Money, power, status are my only hope.

 

[Trader]

Finally, good advice. This is a scientific fact: people judge your personality by how you look. Research also says that attractive people get way more opportunities in their lifetime, plus attractive people tend to end up with attractive people, because relationships between people who are not equally attractive tend to be unhealthy, because the attractive one will feel unsure if he/she could not get any better and the less attractive one will be afraid of the attractive one leaving him/her.

In other words: it's about looks. It's all about looks. Game is a fairy tale you'd like to be believe. Marketeers know that, that's why they sell e-books with pick-up advice.

You just completely missed the point of this thread.

It's about *looks* not looks.

 

[J. Darko]

You just completely missed the point of this thread.

It's about *looks* not looks.

No, I'm adding body to your definition.

Looks = body + clothes + haircut + body language

If you have an attractive body, but wear a refuse bag, you still score ten points.

If your body is skinny and weak, a suit will make you look skinny and weak, even if you act like you're a business man.

So looks is more than the dress and the act.

 

[Warrior74]

No, I'm adding body to your definition.

Looks = body + clothes + haircut + body language

If you have an attractive body, but wear a refuse bag, you still score ten points.

If your body is skinny and weak, a suit will make you look skinny and weak, even if you act like you're a business man.

So looks is more than the dress and the act.

You are still getting into a semantics argument and a comparative argument.

The point is to have the best "look" YOU personally can have. If you are skinny and weak, guess what, your gonna look better dressed in a nice suit than you will in sweat pants and flip flops. You have to enhance what you have to the best of your ability. Comparing yourself to other people and their genetic gifts or lack thereof will not change reality one bit. Reality says, if you push yourself to your limit of what you can do, then you might achieve something you didn't think you could achieve. But if you don't try you can't win. Guys use that sh1t as an excuse not to try.

 

[Nutz]

I hate to say it, but you might have something there.
Some might call it style.
Or as Mystery put it, "creating your avatar".

This is why douchebags get laid. They evoke characteristics discussed here:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2010/07/24/patriarchy-for-dummies/

Are the women gone ga ga for Peterson and van der Sloot the exceptions to the rule?

No.

What they are is more extreme examples of the norm. Everyone eats, and in every culture there is a certain percentage of people that eat to the point of obesity. It doesn’t make eating abnormal, it just points to some abnormal eating. These women are the same type of phenomena.

They are attracted to killers for the same reasons that the average young woman is attracted to thugs, bad boys on motorcycles, rock stars and politicians as ugly as Henry Kissinger. It is all about power. Power to protect, power to provide, power to dominate and control.