Girlfriend Is Ignoring Me Right After Moving In

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Couldn't really get the gist of it in the title. I have been with my girlfriend for about 5 months now, usually we only get to see each other once a month as she lives in a nearby city a couple of hours away.

I am much older than her, I'm 27 she is 18 and a student.

She broke up for winter holidays and said she could come stay with me for the whole 2 months holiday. So I thought great, every time I saw her before even though it was brief it would always be passionate and hot with sex etc. I imagined we would have a great time for these two months.

So she arrives and wants to buy some instant noodles and I tell her not to as it's bad for health and suggest I treat her to something better. She insists on the noodles.

The result is she ends up with a stomach ache then after a few days gets a cold so she ended up having these two problems over two weeks and obviously I tried to take care of her.

The problem started when I noticed she was very cold to me and would hardly speak to me, when I spoke to her she would use the excuse of being ill. I thought fair enough and kept my distance. At some point after I kept pushing the issue she promised she would be nicer to me after two weeks of being here and at one point agreed we could have sex after two weeks as well.

When the day finally came and she was feeling better and her promise was on this day I confronted her on it and she still has the exact same attitude. After an argument she admitted to me that something happened.

Apparently she went to the park with a friend and this guy (I guess similar age to her) started speaking to her and then stalking her after she refused him, and at one point even bear hugged her before she escaped with him running after her. She managed to get away but she says due to this event she has been emotionally scarred and doesn't like going outside the house or speaking to people. She even said to me "All guys are bad people" and that she hates all guys and when I asked if that included me she said she also hates me a little.

Her attitude is worse over time we are now up to the two and a half weeks or so point and on top of not speaking to me she won't let me touch her or kiss her even in the most innocent ways. I've been 'going ghost' on her the last week or so slowly paying less attention to her but if anything things are worse. Over this whole time period she usually just chats or plays on her phone, sometimes chatting with other guys on her phone's IM. Sometimes I ask who the guy is and it's always her older brother or some friend in another city. I think it's possible she may like another guy, but why come see me?

I figure from what I've read about advice the best thing to do is ignore her and 'go ghost' but that's hard when she is staying with me. All my friends tell me to either tell her to leave or just ditch her. She tells me that she has this attitude to everyone since the 'event' occurred and it's nothing to do with our relationship.

Some background, I am living in China and she is Chinese and we speak in Chinese together as it's my second language though I am a white Aussie.

My analysis of the situation from what I know of Chinese culture and her personality is that she was originally a shy girl with little self confidence and not very vain, not into chasing rich or handsome guys like many Chinese girls are.

But I think this event has made her emotionally cut off and lowered her confidence and trust in other people. I believe the reason Chinese in general is vainer than most cultures is due to this lack of trust in other people and lack of 'moral code' and a strong stereotyping thought process where they find it hard to think of people as individuals. From my experience dating here it seems many girls from a young age get hurt by a guy at some point and become emotionally cut off then after a period of cooling off end up with a much vainer personality.

I was already pretty fed up of being in China till I met this girlfriend due to the vanity here, little trust in communication or the spoken word. Also a distrust of other. Though I'm sure there are some exceptional places.

So what should I do? I can't force her out of my apartment and it breaks my heart that we would have to split up. Today I tried to alpha up and just told her due to the way she is treating me we aren't in a relationship anymore and I said we are just friends and that if she has a place to go she can leave but I won't force her. But I said if she wants to stay I strongly urge her to improve her behavior towards me and help fix our relationship.

My theory about why she would come and stay with me even if she no longer likes me is that she still has some feelings for me and by treating me like dirt whilst saying I should still be treating her better it's like she is forcing me to be a beta male so she can let herself stop having feelings for me.

This is the same reason some guys (on this forum) girlfriends will suddenly send a bunch of lovey messages to them right before going cold, it's a brain **** on the guy to make him chase her so she can feel good about herself and not be upset about leaving. This kind of **** makes me really think on average girls are much meaner and more manipulative than guys in relationships.

Sorry for the long post I just didn't want to miss out important details. Thanks for reading any questions I will add more details.
 

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Sure you can kick her the f*ck out. You didn't adopt her. You're tolerating bad behaviour, low interest, and probably cheating, and wondering why it continues.

There's more to the dude in the park story.
 
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So what should I do? I can't force her out of my apartment and it breaks my heart that we would have to split up.
Why is this not an option? SHE IS NOT INTERESTED IN YOU.

You need to quit looking for that magical technique that is going to press that magical attraction button, and have the both of you continue toward married bliss.

THERE IS NO TECHNIQUE TO FIX THIS.

She's not interested. She's merely sponging off you until she can find another man to latch onto, such as that guy from the park.

Kick her the fvck out. She's draining your emotions, your resources, your time, and your energy. You need to find a woman who adds to these elements. This woman is just sucking you dry.

Again, kick her out. You'll get over your broken heart once you find a woman who's more supportive and interested.
 

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After reading again, it's probably Naughty Ninja trolling under a different name as usual.
 
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It breaks your heart if you split? WTF

I used to live in China as well and can relate to the materialistic nature of the girls there but it's not that hard to get a girl there especially since you can speak Mandarin.

You are getting nothing out of this "relationship".

Stop listening to her sob stories.

Stop being a p$ssy. Man up. Kick her the FVCK OUT of your place and look for other girls.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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From one Aussie to another, you are currently sacrificing your happiness for a pyscho bytch.
Your happiness is paramount and you have to do everything in your power to ensure it.
Her being around is robbing you of your right to be happy, so the answer is to politely but firmly ask her to get the fvck out and find someone else to bludge off.
 

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Your 27.... She's 18. Barely out of her parents place. Your her meal ticket so she doesn't have to go home to her mommy and your also afraid of her emotional reaction.. She's controlling you. STOP enabling her. The maturity levels between you two are different by at least 10 fold. She doesn't get it..

Send her back home to mommy.. She's obviously not ready for the real world.

Epi
 

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Epimanes said:
Your 27.... She's 18. Barely out of her parents place. Your her meal ticket so she doesn't have to go home to her mommy and your also afraid of her emotional reaction.. She's controlling you. STOP enabling her. The maturity levels between you two are different by at least 10 fold. She doesn't get it..

Send her back home to mommy.. She's obviously not ready for the real world.

Epi
This right here.

I'm failing to see what obligation you have to provide her with a place to stay, especially when she has parents she can retreat to. The longer this drags out, the harder it will be to handle.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I think without all the emotions involved I would probably come to the same conclusion and perhaps too much one-itis and not enough options is making me afraid of doing the right thing and splitting it off.

Before I saw any of the replies to this thread I had already basically said to her today that it's over. I think she was likely going to wait until she leaves before admitting she didn't like me anymore so this way I get to keep some control over the break up and not feel so bad.

I also think there was more to the park story. I imagine it was more like the guy ****ed her and she probably wants a hotter guy now.

I guess she still had some feelings for me so was treating me like sh!t to make her feel better about leaving me by making me treat her well despite her attitude to me.

I feel much better after reading this thread. Her manipulation was making me feel that somehow my demands for communication and intimacy were unfounded when really they were completely reasonable and her rejecting these is her disinterest in me. She is leaving tomorrow, though I have to buy her an $80 train ticket I'll just put it down as the cost of getting rid of her :rolleyes:
 

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You guys are right of course. My emotions make it hard to see the obvious solution.

I am kind of fed up with China to be honest. There is very low trust here it's all about attraction to looks or money rather than trust, personality and serious or deep connection. I'm sure a lot of Western guys in China either on a good salary or in good shape still do well but I'm neither of those right now.

I still have standards though and through some luck I manage to meet pretty girls sometimes but it's usually a case of me barely meeting their standards. Feel like I should concentrate on working out, getting in shape and improving my financial situation before I get back in the dating game otherwise just a waste of time. In a Western country any reasonably attractive guy can go to a club and pickup a girl but that's not the case in China.

A lot of girls here just have their friends introduce hot guys to them, because looks/money are so important here. I hate this country and it's vain culture. I speak fluent Chinese and been here six years and I can tell you it's the fakest vainest culture in the world and Chinese girls are more manipulative and bigger liars than even American girls. Everything about status, money, looks, age. Girls don't trust a guy to be faithful so it's all about getting the best they can find to show off to their friends. No trust and no one is genuine。
 

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Dude, if you are not a troll you should know to replace em not chase em. She has a bad attitude like many girls around the world and you don't need to be treating her any better than she deserves. By the way, just a hunch.. are you living in the north? hah
 

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Cloudtopsun2100 said:
Dude, if you are not a troll you should know to replace em not chase em. She has a bad attitude like many girls around the world and you don't need to be treating her any better than she deserves. By the way, just a hunch.. are you living in the north? hah

No I am in Guang dong province. It's the hardest place to date girls because many local Guang dong girls prefer a local boyfriend or their parents will force them to get a local one. And most of the girls who are less traditional ie willing to find foreigners and pretty, will have high standards.

There are some provinces in China where it's much easier to pickup like Zhejiang or Sichuan. But in general most of China is still much vainer than Western countries, there's a lot less mutual trust and respect or deepness. Though I'm sure you will meet an attractive guy or guy on a good salary that will tell you how easy it is and how genuine his girlfriends are. Well that's all fake, Chinese girls are great at pretending to NOT be vain and make you think they like you for who you are when mostly it's just shallow.

I can't go back to Australia because my parents live in the UK so if I went back to Aus I would be lucky to live in a homeless shelter, rents there are insane. Considering going to the UK and seeing if I have a better life there. Just to be honest most British girls are ugly, China just has better standards on average. Americans/ Canadians that have been to the UK will know I am right that British girls are not that pretty on average but guys are still relatively good looking so there's a lot of **** blocking for any remote kind of talent.
 

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Ah ok, I used to live in Shenzhen and that place is awesome. Obviously, its a bit gritty but all in all a very prosperous and exciting place with minimal smog. Used to be a lot of hakka girls and chaoshan ladies around. There are some really good ones but then again there are bad ones too and in the end the girl you are kicking it with doesn't appreciate you as much as should. As for her age, you gotta remember girls that age are not "kao pu" at all and if you are going to hang with them you can't expect anything serious. Shes got 7 years till she is a "sheng nv" and at least 3 years till she begins to get serious about things. Might as well bow out and look over at the HK ladies, some are quite cool.
 
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