Girl won't swallow/spit but open to creampie

[jamesfromhouston]

I've been seeing a plate for a few months now.

We hook up quite often. She's very wild in bed and has an IUD in her.

She's always begging me to *** in her during sex but she is never comfortable and refuses to allow me to *** in her mouth or on her face.

I used to think a girl who refuses to allow you to *** in any certain way, probly does not like you enough.

But with this girl, she loves to make me *** and make me creampie her. It's just face and mouth are off limits.

I tried to ask why but she would always come up with really weird excuses and is just very resistant.

Have any of you guys encountered this situation before?

Does it mean she doesn't like me enough?

How can I get her to do it? (It's something I really enjoy).

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Some women just don't like it. Some women love it.

Same reason why some people love a certain food while others hate it.

Personal preference.

 

[New_Journey]

She's always begging me to *** in her during sex but she is never comfortable and refuses to allow me to *** in her mouth or on her face.

This is your fault, you didn't train her from the beginning to take your load in her mouth.

It's just face and mouth are off limits.

With you.

I tried to ask

Did you put your puppy eyes while you were at it?

How can I get her to do it?

You don't. When you're about to cvm, you take your d!ck and tell her "Open your mouth" and then cvm in her mouth. Its that simple. But you are scared of pushing the enveloped with fears of losing steady sex.

(It's something I really enjoy).

If this were the case, you don't say it, you take action

If she refuses next time, you don't say a word, you walk away. She will contact you and you tell her "Its not working out, good luck on your romantic life" if she asks if its cause of cvming in her mouth, you say "Yes, I whish you the best" Then you walk away and don't look back.

But the question is, would you have the balls to do it?

 

[SW15]

Given @jamesfromhouston 's posting history, this is an interaction that will likely flame out soon.

This is a violation of Iron Rule of Tomassi #5.

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It's good to ejaculate inside the vagina but only if you are using a condom. This should be happening even if she claims to have an IUD.

This seems like a sexual incompatibility that cannot be resolved.

 

[Divorced w 3]

My girlfriend freshman through junior year of college didn’t care where it went inside her as long as it wasn’t her mouth. It’s absolutely not the norm, most women enjoy giving oral, but every once in a while one doesn’t. I met a girl later junior year that couldn’t take it out of her mouth. She would throw her roommate out and pull me off the quad to go down on me. She was a gem. Just how it goes.

Like anything else, with a little practice you can work on it but it’s not going to be easy.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is your fault, you didn't train her from the beginning to take your load in her mouth.


With you.


Did you put your puppy eyes while you were at it?


You don't. When you're about to cvm, you take your d!ck and tell her "Open your mouth" and then cvm in her mouth. Its that simple. But you are scared of pushing the enveloped with fears of losing steady sex.


If this were the case, you don't say it, you take action

If she refuses next time, you don't say a word, you walk away. She will contact you and you tell her "Its not working out, good luck on your romantic life" if she asks if its cause of cvming in her mouth, you say "Yes, I whish you the best" Then you walk away and don't look back.

But the question is, would you have the balls to do it?

This is horrible advice. Possibly the epitome of what irrational, red pill-esque, tone deaf ultimatum based thinking looks like.

This may be the worst single piece of advice I have seen dished out on this forum

Nothing is so black and white.

Why cut your nose off to spite your face.

This woman is banging him constantly, you’d recommend he walk away because she has an issue with oral?

 

[The Duke]

I think one has to understand that when you aren't all in with a woman, don't expect her to be all in with you. She knows she is only a plate, she isn't going to give you everything if you aren't going to give you the relationship she wants.

I've never experienced something sexual that a girl would't do. Sure some things she wasn't as into, but was always willing. I think I avoid this problem because I'm very giving when it comes to sex. I'm not a selfish lover but I do enjoy the power I have over her orgasms. Give her enough big O's and you can have your way with her.

 

[New_Journey]

This is horrible advice

You think this because of this:

This woman is banging him constantly

Do you think another women won't bang him constantly like this one is? This is the common denominator of men who don't go for what they want. Because afraid of rocking the boat and lose the sex. Sex is easy to get, women today are giving away for free,

That's called emasculation paradox, men are afraid of rocking the sex boat, with fears of losing sex. That same thinking causes men to lose the sex and never get want they want. Only a thirsty guy who rarely gets puzzy will think like that.

you’d recommend he walk away because she has an issue with oral?

Yes, if that's not what he wants, he should walk.

Maybe not to you if you're not getting puzzy, you'll think "why leave that constant puzzy? I wanna cvm in her mouth but better not to try it in case she doesn't like it, will cut me off and I'll get no sex with her anymore"

Sex is the end game for guys who get none.

The end game for men should be dominance in the bedroom, read this carefully, A man should do whatever the fvck he wants in the bedroom without fear of losing her. That's the difference between a thirsty guy vs a guy who gets puzzy easily. But we can agree to disagree.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You think this because of this:

Do you think another women won't bang him constantly like this one is? This is the common denominator of men who don't go for what they want. Because afraid of rocking the boat and lose the sex. Sex is easy to get, women today are giving away for free,

That's called emasculation paradox, men are afraid of rocking the sex boat, with fears of losing sex. That same thinking causes men to lose the sex and never get want they want. Only a thirsty guy who rarely gets puzzy will think like that.


Yes, if that's not what he wants, he should walk.

Maybe not to you if you're not getting puzzy, you'll think "why leave that constant puzzy? I wanna cvm in her mouth but better not to try it in case she doesn't like it, will cut me off and I'll get no sex with her anymore"

Sex is the end game for guys who get none.

I have let plenty of women walk for smaller, more ridiculous reasons than this. Women who loved me, did pretty much anything I needed or asked. Duke said it perfectly, and he echoed what I said. If I had to guess, you’re super transparent in what you view women for. At least play the game.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Don't nag or complain since she will become defensive, and it will exacerbate the problem. Instead, make light of the situation and keep it playful, induce them to follow your lead.

Examples:

Her: I am getting really wrinkly, I need to get some botox
You: You know what I heard, semen is extremally good for that. All you have to do is spray it accross the face in your skin hehehe

Her: I am not able to see properly without my glasses.
You: I think semen has healing qualities. I have been trying to make you see better all this time and trying to aim at your eye...babe hehehe

 

[New_Journey]

I have let plenty of women walk for smaller, more ridiculous reasons than this. Women who loved me, did pretty much anything I needed or asked. Duke said it perfectly, and he echoed what I said. If I had to guess, you’re super transparent in what you view women for. At least play the game.

I do play the game. My game is doing whatever I want, whenever I want with women, if I don't get I want, I walk.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I don’t munch carpet. So I can hardly blame a woman if she won’t do oral.

 

[BPH]

Looks like most answers have hit the nail on the head already, so I'll just add my 2 cents.

It doesn't mean she "doesn't like you enough", some women just don't enjoy that. I had an ex in college who used to spit it into a towel after she went down on me. My brother dated a girl and lived with her for years, and she wouldn't swallow when she went down on him either.

If it's a dealbreaker for you over time, then sure, feel free to walk away. But this is just a girl's personal preference, not a red flag.

 

[SW15]

Sex is the end game for guys who get none.

This is easy to observe when interacting with men who aren't getting sex.

That's called emasculation paradox, men are afraid of rocking the sex boat, with fears of losing sex. That same thinking causes men to lose the sex and never get want they want. Only a thirsty guy who rarely gets puzzy will think like that.

I observe this behavior in a lot of men.

I think it is most commonly observed in unmarried men in LTRs. I think many unmarried LTR men propose marriage in order to keep getting pussie from the same woman. They are fearful that if they don't take the next step, their girlfriend will dump them and they won't have easy access to sex in the future.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

My girlfriend freshman through junior year of college didn’t care where it went inside her as long as it wasn’t her mouth. It’s absolutely not the norm, most women enjoy giving oral, but every once in a while one doesn’t. I met a girl later junior year that couldn’t take it out of her mouth. She would throw her roommate out and pull me off the quad to go down on me. She was a gem. Just how it goes.

Like anything else, with a little practice you can work on it but it’s not going to be easy.

Lots of women enjoy oral but even then a lot don't like getting a cvm blast to the face or swallowing it.

 

[The Duke]

I do play the game. My game is doing whatever I want, whenever I want with women, if I don't get I want, I walk.

Actually the key to getting what you want is usually not walking away, it's learning how to work with people. Personal skills!

 

[DJ Novice]

You should be able to have an open conversation about your s*xual needs as desires. It’s important to try and meet the other persons needs in any relationship as long as it doesn’t transgress a personal boundary or value.

Women who have genuine desire for you should be open to doing things s*xually that they have never done with anyone else before. And vice versa.

S*xual compatibility is important so if it’s a hard no from her and it’s something you can’t live without then frustration will build over time and the relationship won’t last.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You should be able to have an open conversation about your s*xual needs as desires. It’s important to try and meet the other persons needs in any relationship as long as it doesn’t transgress a personal boundary or value.

Women who have genuine desire for you should be open to doing things s*xually that they have never done with anyone else before. And vice versa.

S*xual compatibility is important so if it’s a hard no from her and it’s something you can’t live without then frustration will build over time and the relationship won’t last.

I’ve had/have genuine desire & lust/love for many women. But I won’t eat pu$$y. Even if they ask me. It just disgusts me. It has nothing to do with my feelings for them.

 

[New_Journey]

Actually the key to getting what you want is usually not walking away, it's learning how to work with people. Personal skills!

With women conversation is a waste of time, logic vs emotions.

If I want anal, I'll try to put it in, if she doesn't want it, I'll state my intentions, if nothing changes, I won't spend time on words, I'll just look for another woman who likes anal.

I’ve had/have genuine desire & lust/love for many women. But I won’t eat pu$$y. Even if they ask me. It just disgusts me. It has nothing to do with my feelings for them.

What happens if she says that she really likes it and she will find another guy who does that for her. What would you say?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

With women conversation is a waste of time, logic vs emotions.

If I want anal, I'll try to put it in, if she doesn't want it, I'll state my intentions, if nothing changes, I won't spend time on words, I'll just look for another woman who likes anal.


What happens if she says that she really likes it and she will find another guy who does that for her. What would you say?

I would & have said: ‘goodbye’.