Girl with Down syndrome as cheerleader

[JohnyTheArrow]

Based on the article, it seems Desiree's quality of life is just fine, save for a few bullies. But tons of regular average kids have had bullies too. Should be they killed at birth? What about short males who we know will be bullied and ridiculed by boys and girls all throughout school.

Kill them too? Tons of people have had tough times fitting in during school years, and then gone on to lead happy and/or successful lives. Innocent people shouldnt die because of what azzholes do. Bad people need to be educated and dealt with...innocent and good people shouldnt face harm because of the decisions of douche-bags.

Relax,white knight.I will explain you.

Now in many countries you can abort baby if it has Down syndrome legally, even if abortion is illegal.If they push Down as normal, and they do, it will make this abortion as illegal.

If you are so eager go adopt or marry somebody with Down syndrome to experience this joy.Being short is not genetic damage it is social issue in height obssessed America, Down is.It is very low IQ (30-70) and lot of other health issues.The quality of life is not fine,dumbass.It's hell.These people are not able to live alone without support of others through their lifetime.

 

[Jaylan]

You're really starting to sound like the feminists. Not everyone is equal, not everyone gets equal respect! It is a way of life. PLEASE stop saying that people need to be educated. You don't get to brainwash us and tell us what to think and say!!!!

So youre saying its ok to murder people unfortunate enough to be born with genetic disorders?

What the fvk is feminist about having compassion for people who are not normal, and saying killing them isnt right? And yes, bullies do need to be educated on not being azzholes. And it seems young people have learned to not allow bullying when they see it.

Whats bad about stopping kids from being mentally and physically beat down in school? Or do you like seeing fvked up kids who grow up into fvked up adults...or worse...go shoot up schools because they are sick of being bullied?

Come on now...really, tell me why is it feminist to think other human being deserve simple respect?

My reply was civil, just not PC. What you probably meant was: 'What a non-PC reply'. Nevertheless, I already forewarned how harsh that opinion was, I didn't mean kill her because of the bullies, but because she simply can't contribute to society. And I certainly didn't mean now, I was saying how it should've been done at birth.

With technology, sometimes parents know if their child will be born mentally impaired and are given the option to abort. In my honest opinion, I feel that option should be utilized.

Killing at birth is murder, do know that. People go to prison if they kill a human after birth, because it gains personhood. If anything they should have an early abortion once they know the child will have such disabilities.

Either way, your argument is a slippery slope that could be used to kill a bunch of people. Because who decides who can contribute to society? There are a lot of normal people who dont contribute to society at all...and yet are able to live, mooch, and even cause problems for society.

If you must abort someone with a genetic disorder, the reasoning could be better than simply saying "they wont contribute to society".

Relax,white knight.I will explain you.

Now in many countries you can abort baby if it has Down syndrome legally, even if abortion is illegal.If they push Down as normal, and they do, it will make this abortion as illegal.

If you are so eager go adopt or marry somebody with Down syndrome to experience this joy.Being short is not genetic damage it is social issue in height obssessed America, Down is.It is very low IQ (30-70) and lot of other health issues.The quality of life is not fine,dumbass.It's hell.These people are not able to live alone without support of others through their lifetime.

So now someone is a white knight when they dont want to kill people just because they had the misfortune of being born with genetic disorders or mental illnesses? Sorry that I dont think like Hitler and am not willing to kill such people.

Early abortion is different from killing a born and living person. You do know that dont you? Also, do you understand what quality of life is? Just because someone requires assistance from someone else does NOT mean they wont have a happy life. Youre trying to dictate quality of life based upon your own personal standards. Thats not how it works. Quality of life should not be confused with the concept of standard of living.

Jeezus christ...if this kinda bullsh!t is what passes off as DJ discussion nowadays, no wonder some of you guys need a sh!t ton of advice in order to get laid. And then to top it off with bullcrap about betas and white knights all because someone dares to have compassion for those less fortunate?

Get the fvk outta here with that bunk mate.

 

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The Hard Sell

Jeezus christ...if this kinda bullsh!t is what passes off as DJ discussion nowadays, no wonder some of you guys need a sh!t ton of advice in order to get laid.

Get the fvk outta here with that bunk mate.

:crackup: @ gaylan desperately ramping up the profanity and manufactured feeelz to maximum as to sell the "eqwaaaaality" narrative. Even snuck a little low grade shaming tactic in there the cheeky monkey.

Textbook formula. Rinse repeat.

 

[Embers84]

It's funny how these ignorant right wingers try to attach a "Liberal" label to everything. These are the same guys who had no problem when Sarah Palin paraded her down syndrome baby all over the country. The right wing media was all over it, to get the feel good story, when she was parading the kid on TV to get sympathy votes. Remember when the kid was stepping on the family dog? All the right wing women and media said it was cute. If a Democrat's kid did that, they would say it's animal abuse. What a total bunch of hypocrites these right wingers are. :crackup:

:cheer: White knights. Liberal feel good propaganda. Don't get me wrong, thats weak to bully a retard, but who cares. Why rename the gym after her? She won't understand, care, or remember.

Lol, Kenosha. I'm from kenosha county. (not the city)

Look at that, both of you are from Kenosha County with the same IQ. Why didn't they rename the gym after you? :crackup:

 

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It's funny how these ignorant right wingers try to attach a "Liberal" label to everything.

Don't cry about it, It's just how it is. Sh!tlibs conjure up and feed off these feeeelz stories for status whoring and e-preening points. No other parties are pushing the "equalist" narrative with as much enthusiasm. Hence the "liberal" label you weirdo, it's not rocket science . Deal with it.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Remember when the kid was stepping on the family dog? All the right wing women and media said it was cute. If a Democrat's kid did that, they would say it's animal abuse.

Yeah but look at the Democrats. They think that criticizing Obama is animal abuse...

 

[Embers84]

Don't cry about it, It's just how it is. Sh!tlibs conjure up and feed off these feeeelz stories for status whoring and e-preening points. No other parties are pushing the "equalist" narrative with as much enthusiasm. Hence the "liberal" label you weirdo, it's not rocket science . Deal with it.

You're the one getting all emotional crying and whining about the article. I'm laughing at your ignorance. The sh!tcons of the right wing media and GOP Party conjured up their feel good story of Sarah Palin and her dysfunctional family, to get the white sh!tcon beta male sympathy vote. And you along with the rest of them, were on the edge of your seat cheering her on and eating it up, when they brought out her down syndrome baby for sympathy.

Yeah but look at the Democrats. They think that criticizing Obama is animal abuse...

It never fails that angry right wingers need to mention Obama somewhere. :crackup:

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

So youre saying its ok to murder people unfortunate enough to be born with genetic disorders?

You are terrible a$$hole.

You are not going to be pregnant with mental retarded child and then you are not going to 24/7 care for lifetime for the damaged child so obviously you dont give a fvck.You pose as moraly superior because its 'killinggggggggggggg' I wait for Hitler, nazis and gas chambers because you lack any logical arguments so you must go down to omfg 'muuuuuuurderrrr'

If woman had damaged child she may lose opportunity to have healthy child next time.


Following your retarted :crackup: ideology ... if your wife get raped she give birth to rapist child and rise it because its life ... lets go even further ... if your wife get raped and child had Down syndrome she should give birth and rise it because its LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, we dont MUUUUUUUURDER children, right, dude :crackup: ?

 

[Jaylan]

You are terrible a$$hole.

You are not going to be pregnant with mental retarded child and then you are not going to 24/7 care for lifetime for the damaged child so obviously you dont give a fvck.You pose as moraly superior because its 'killinggggggggggggg' I wait for Hitler, nazis and gas chambers because you lack any logical arguments so you must go down to omfg 'muuuuuuurderrrr'

If woman had damaged child she may lose opportunity to have healthy child next time.


Following your retarted :crackup: ideology ... if your wife get raped she give birth to rapist child and rise it because its life ... lets go even further ... if your wife get raped and child had Down syndrome she should give birth and rise it because its LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, we dont MUUUUUUUURDER children, right, dude :crackup: ?

And youre a terrible idiot.

How about reading and quoting the entirety of my post instead of throwing a hissy fit over one sentence. Theres a big difference between killing after birth (which would be murder) and having an early abortion pre-birth (which would be ok).

A big part of my point hinged on early abortion, and if you took the time to read with comprehension you would have gotten the larger point I was trying to make. Next time dont get so fixated on a single sentence. I also pointed out that your idea of "quality of life" is incorrect. People can have a good quality of life even if they have a care taker.

Go back and reread my post. Actually respond to each of the the points made. Because you havent done that with any of my posts here really. Im still waiting for you to explain why preteen cheerleaders are supposed to be sex symbols, especially considering how school cheerleading originally had nothing to do with sex.

Lastly, now you bring rape into this conversation? What an imbecile you are. Fool indeed. You cannot discuss my post point for point, so instead you respond with some immature bullsh!te and then bring up rape. You can do better than that, cant you?

At the end of the day, youre just a dumbass trying to bash nice kids who protected a poor girl with down syndrome. If you think thats DJ discussion then you are way behind the 8 ball kid. This bait thread is pathetic.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

At the end of the day, youre just a dumbass trying to bash nice kids who protected a poor girl with down syndrome.

It was all set up to achieve exactly that.
The white knights, poor female victim, 'bad people' and PC happy ending.

 

[kevin z study]

I'm not potty trained. Black robes. Conservative feel bad propaganda. Don't get me right, thats string to bully a Harvard flunk out, but who cares. Why rename the toilet after the Harvard flunk out? He will understand, care, and remember.

Lol, Cambridge. I'm from near Harvard. (the university)

huh

 

[kevin z study]

It was all natural to achieve an F in every subject.
The black robes, rich male villain, 'good people' and unhappy beginning. I just peed and **** in my pants.

huh

 

[Desdinova]

My job involves dealing with the mentally disabled. However, I agree that the ones who would not be capable of contributing to society should be aborted. They are just useless drains on our system. What does a farmer do with a lame horse? Feed it and clean up after it for the rest of its life? Where's the value?

As far as letting her be a cheerleader, I suppose we should impregnate them if they want to be mommies. Is that a good idea too?

 

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As far as letting her be a cheerleader, I suppose we should impregnate them if they want to be mommies. Is that a good idea too?

You'd think a taxpayer logic trap would trump sh!tlib feeelz.

WRONG!

Remember they said if society lets sodomites "marry" the poz will end there? Well now a certain tribe member wants us to feeeel for the pedo's apparently (but only in Western countries :nono: .....coz like we're soooo progressive). Who saw that coming? derrrrp.

Remember the golden rule. Feeeelz trumps all (for the dumber ones). Oh and the more destructive whether short or long term to the host population the better(for the smart ones).

 

[Bible_Belt]

The biggest cause of downs is women having babies very late in life. The chance of downs starts to go up exponentially at about age 35. When a woman in her 40s gets pregnant, downs becomes much, much more common.

Feminism of course abhors the idea of a young girl becoming a baby factory, god forbid to please a man. Nature disagrees - young mothers make the healthiest babies, and have the lowest risk for birth defects like downs.

Downs is a very specific type of mental handicap. For some unknown reason, they tend to be some of the happiest people. I'm not sure someone with downs can get depressed. Married couples who have a downs baby actually have a much lower divorce rate than couples who have normal kids. And although they tend to not live past their 40s, people with downs can hold menial jobs, live on their own, and lead productive tax-paying lives. They can often accomplish more than an intelligent person with a mental illness like depression, anxiety, ocd, or substance abuse.

 

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And although they tend to not live past their 40s, people with downs can hold menial jobs, live on their own, and lead productive tax-paying lives. They can often accomplish more than an intelligent person with a mental illness like depression, anxiety, ocd, or substance abuse.

I take it "productive tax paying lives" is used in the broader sense? Making paper mache and cheering up old people is hardly first world pioneering.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Nah, they can totally work at McDonald's. But not just that, they can be happy doing it. Give me that same job and I'm going to be doing every drug I can get my hands on just to not go insane with boredom. I have known a lot of people who get fvcked up at work because they are bored. You don't have to worry about that with a down's employee. It never occurs to them to get drunk or high, because they are always happy. I have to admire that about anyone, retard or not.

 

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Nah, they can totally work at McDonald's. But not just that, they can be happy doing it. Give me that same job and I'm going to be doing every drug I can get my hands on just to not go insane with boredom. I have known a lot of people who get fvcked up at work because they are bored. You don't have to worry about that with a down's employee. It never occurs to them to get drunk or high, because they are always happy. I have to admire that about anyone, retard or not.

I'm sold.

In that case it's a wonder we haven't seen more wanted ads for down syndrome only employees. They sound like the perfect employees. As a matter of fact what are we even doing employing these layabout and drug addled 46 chromosomers?

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[Stagger Lee]

Cheer leaders are meant to cheer. You might want to look up the history of cheer leaders. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleading Women didnt originally participate. And cheerleading was NOT originally meant to be sexual.

And this is a fvking middle school btw...so it should be about cheering anyways, not sex. Professional cheerleaders started the whole sexual cheer leading stuff. That wasnt common in schools for a long time...and still isnt something preteen schools should be aiming for. So you need to get your mind right.

The whole sex symbol stuff is a bastardization of what cheer leading was supposed to be about. It coincides with how so many things have become sexual in American society since the 60s. You want sexy cheerleaders? You wanna complain about desexualizing them? Then dont do it when complaining about what 11 to 13 yr olds are doing in their school cheer troupe.

All of a sudden you start making a very conservative argument here when it suits your lefty, feminist agenda. This isn't the first time I've seen you argue from both sides of the fence. You're mostly wrong anyway. Even though females in the past prior to the 60's weren't as sexualized, still being beautiful and charming was expected even moreso.

The biggest cause of downs is women having babies very late in life. The chance of downs starts to go up exponentially at about age 35. When a woman in her 40s gets pregnant, downs becomes much, much more common.

Feminism of course abhors the idea of a young girl becoming a baby factory, god forbid to please a man. Nature disagrees - young mothers make the healthiest babies, and have the lowest risk for birth defects like downs... people with downs can hold menial jobs, live on their own, and lead productive tax-paying lives. They can often accomplish more than an intelligent person with a mental illness like depression, anxiety, ocd, or substance abuse.

That sounds about right Bible Belt. I lean conservative but believe the disabled and elderly should be cared for. I'm not against social safety nets. Besides some of them can work and earn enough to support a modest living. I'd rather see the criminal/able-bodied welfare element be aborted than the few disabled. But I also oppose how feminism encourages women to have children later in life. Which as you mentioned increases defects.

 

[Embers84]

I didn't think abortion would be so popular here, since all the right wingers use that against Liberals for their big issue besides guns. When you take away a woman's right to choose like the right wing extremists want, that forces the woman to bring a sick child into the world having to pay for all their care and go into debt. Then the right wingers want to get rid Of The Affordable Care Act, that helps families get decent health care costs so they don't drown in debt.

You must have the sick kid, but you're on your own trying to medically care for it. That's the good 'ol right wing way eh?

Remember the golden rule. Feeeelz trumps all (for the dumber ones).

Well, you got the sh!tcon feels when Sarah Palin brought out her down syndrome baby. You were dumb enough to sucker into it buying into the far right wing garbage. How did it feel?