Girl says "Yes" to date, but has to check schedule?

[OC Speedball]

Ok, long back story. I'll try to make it brief but give you the info.

I am in college. One girl constantly chooses to sit next to me. We started talking and I am pretty damn sure there was/is mutual attraction. Lots of brushing against my arm, having her arm touch mine on the armrest. She even scratched my back once and and likes to touch my hair. I am pretty sure she likes me.

I asked her on a coffee date about 4 weeks into this and she said yeah. I asked for her number and she gave it to me. But then the day of I texted her in the morning, "We still good for coffee at 3?" She texts back, "I will know by 11 for sure. I will let you know." I knew what that meant, she's trying to play games now. She texts me back, "Hey, I can't make it. But we can hang out now!" I said I was busy, but maybe we could do something some other time. And I KNEW she would say something like that if I asked to confirm it. So that was a mistake.


Then I call her two days later to ask her on another date. I don't even mention the coffee because I wanted to play it cool. "Hey, I would like to take you out to dinner." "Yes," she replied (it didn't go exactly like this, haha). And then I said, "Okay, next Friday or Saturday night. Your choice." She said she was busy Friday but she would check her schedule for Saturday night and then let me know in class.

So basically, it was a clear yes both times... but then her "schedule" is getting in the way. Is she playing hard to get? My friends are unsure what to think about it. Because they said it was good she said yes, but it was weird that she had to "check her schedule." She is also 18 and I am 20. My neighbor thinks she might be immature, spacey, or her dad is restrictive. I honestly don't know.

What do you guys think? And should I just ask her straight up "So how's Saturday night looking?" when I see her Wednesday?

 

[Tovansky]

some girls might have busy schedule, but I am also not sure if she is really busy or just playing a game. If I were you, since I am the man, I would go ahead and say "hey, give me your schedule so I can choose when we can go out to fit my schedule" something like that, jokingly said maybe.

I would try one more time, if it still doesn't work, I will drop and ignore her. If she is really busy but really wants to hang out with you, she will try her best to make it up for you or to make it work. Remember, be careful not to fall to her game (if there is any, I am still not sure).

Good luck champ!

 

[Mike32ct]

My thought is back off and see if she contacts you or brings up getting together. You made it very clear you want to see her. The offer is on the table. The ball is in her court.

If you run into her in class, be cool, act like you normally do and don't even bring up the date.

 

[Igetit!]

Ok, long back story. I'll try to make it brief but give you the info.

I am in college. One girl constantly chooses to sit next to me. We started talking and I am pretty damn sure there was/is mutual attraction. Lots of brushing against my arm, having her arm touch mine on the armrest. She even scratched my back once and and likes to touch my hair. I am pretty sure she likes me.

Well my quetion would be....What are YOU doing to show your interest BESIDES repeatedly asking her out?


You said.....

she brushes against your arm....

scratches the back of your neck....

she likes to touch your hair....


So she does all these things to show her interest. Ok,so what are YOU doing? Do you flirt? Tease? Compliment her? Do you use sexual innuendos?


What are you doing?

I asked her on a coffee date about 4 weeks into this and she said yeah. I asked for her number and she gave it to me. But then the day of I texted her in the morning, "We still good for coffee at 3?" She texts back, "I will know by 11 for sure. I will let you know."

What gets me about her "I will let you know by 11 for sure" line is that if she ALREADY KNEW she had something else going on that day,then why didn't she mention it the day you asked her out? When you told her the day and THE TIME of the date,why didn't she just tell you about these plans then?


My "spider sense" is tingling....

And I KNEW she would say something like that if I asked to confirm it. So that was a mistake.

I agree that texting her to confrim was a mistake,however,I wonder what would have happened if you had said nothing at all,and just assumed she'd show up.


Don't let girls fool you man. I said it before,and I'll say it again.....

If a woman can have a job,get up and go to work EVERY DAY ON TIME with no problem at all,then she can show up for a date on time as well.


If she has enough common sense and respect to call her employer if for some reason she's going to be late,then she can use THAT SAME common sense and respect to call her date if for some reason she can't make it or is going to be late.


It's amazing how a woman can show up for work or school for weeks and weeks to months at a time WITHOUT BEING LATE OR MISSING A DAY,but when it comes to showing up for a date,ALL OF THE SUDDEN,here we go......

"I lost my phone"
"My cell phone battery died"
"I overslept"
"My friend came into town today"
"I forgot I had (so and so) to do"


and on and on.

Then I call her two days later to ask her on another date. I don't even mention the coffee because I wanted to play it cool. "Hey, I would like to take you out to dinner." "Yes," she replied (it didn't go exactly like this, haha). And then I said, "Okay, next Friday or Saturday night. Your choice." She said she was busy Friday but she would check her schedule for Saturday night and then let me know in class.

So basically, it was a clear yes both times... but then her "schedule" is getting in the way.

Her scedule IS NOT getting in the way. Hey look,does this girl eat?

You know,like food? She does eat,doesn't she?

Well if she eats,then she can eat WITH YOU. Eating is something she HAS TO DO,so if she's going to do it anyway,then she could just as easily have dinner with you.

Don't let her deceive you with that "schedule in the way" bull.

What do you guys think? And should I just ask her straight up "So how's Saturday night looking?" when I see her Wednesday?

NO...don't ask her that. Just ASSUME she's going.


Play with her. Flirt,tease her a little. Compliment her on her appearance. Don't say "You're hot" or anything like that,that'll just make her act WORSE.

Say,"I like----" whatever. Say you like that way she looks in that shirt/blouse/skirt/pear of pants/etc.


Tell her not to wear a lot of make-up when you see her on the date because you don't want to spend the whole date wiping lip-stck off your face.


She'll get the "hint" to what that means.


Just chill and be cool man. Give her a neg or two,toss out a compliment,and just assume eveything is going according to the plans you've made.

And if she starts to act up again,then you'll deal with it then.

 

[arghx7]

There are a lot of flakes out there, but you make the situation harder by not giving the girl enough time. Try planning something 2-3 days in advance. If she agrees to something 3 days later, then cancels, 99% of the time she has low interest. Girls who are interested enough don't break dates.

 

[OC Speedball]

Well my quetion would be....What are YOU doing to show your interest BESIDES repeatedly asking her out?

Oh man... I can NOT believe I didn't realize this until you pointed it out. It just hit me like a ton of bricks when I read your post. I am not showing much interest in her anymore! I guess besides talking and smiling there hasn't been much flirting on my part. When I first met her there was some flirting though.

Last time I saw her she sat on the ground next to me and went on her laptop. She always gets to class early... because I do. But I mostly ignored her even though she asked me to sit with her. I guess I figured that I now need to play hard to get because she already said yes. I figured she would be more attracted to me if I ignore her a little...


Only recently have I come out of my shell after reading a PUA book. I haven't asked a girl out since 2007 and back then I didn't know how to act around a girl, so she totally ruined me. It was practically unrequited love. So yeah, I think I still have some of that fear of rejection in me, which is why I am afraid to flirt with girls. The book gave me confidence, but only in talking to girls.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Well my quetion would be....What are YOU doing to show your interest BESIDES repeatedly asking her out?


You said.....

she brushes against your arm....

scratches the back of your neck....

she likes to touch your hair....


So she does all these things to show her interest. Ok,so what are YOU doing? Do you flirt? Tease? Compliment her? Do you use sexual innuendos?


What are you doing?




What gets me about her "I will let you know by 11 for sure" line is that if she ALREADY KNEW she had something else going on that day,then why didn't she mention it the day you asked her out? When you told her the day and THE TIME of the date,why didn't she just tell you about these plans then?


My "spider sense" is tingling....





I agree that texting her to confrim was a mistake,however,I wonder what would have happened if you had said nothing at all,and just assumed she'd show up.


Don't let girls fool you man. I said it before,and I'll say it again.....

If a woman can have a job,get up and go to work EVERY DAY ON TIME with no problem at all,then she can show up for a date on time as well.


If she has enough common sense and respect to call her employer if for some reason she's going to be late,then she can use THAT SAME common sense and respect to call her date if for some reason she can't make it or is going to be late.


It's amazing how a woman can show up for work or school for weeks and weeks to months at a time WITHOUT BEING LATE OR MISSING A DAY,but when it comes to showing up for a date,ALL OF THE SUDDEN,here we go......

"I lost my phone"
"My cell phone battery died"
"I overslept"
"My friend came into town today"
"I forgot I had (so and so) to do"


and on and on.




Her scedule IS NOT getting in the way. Hey look,does this girl eat?

You know,like food? She does eat,doesn't she?

Well if she eats,then she can eat WITH YOU. Eating is something she HAS TO DO,so if she's going to do it anyway,then she could just as easily have dinner with you.

Don't let her deceive you with that "schedule in the way" bull.





NO...don't ask her that. Just ASSUME she's going.


Play with her. Flirt,tease her a little. Compliment her on her appearance. Don't say "You're hot" or anything like that,that'll just make her act WORSE.

Say,"I like----" whatever. Say you like that way she looks in that shirt/blouse/skirt/pear of pants/etc.


Tell her not to wear a lot of make-up when you see her on the date because you don't want to spend the whole date wiping lip-stck off your face.


She'll get the "hint" to what that means.


Just chill and be cool man. Give her a neg or two,toss out a compliment,and just assume eveything is going according to the plans you've made.

And if she starts to act up again,then you'll deal with it then.

This is a great reply as always from Igetit, but I just wanted to simplify the situation so you understand what's going on.


Is there attraction physically on her end? YES

Is she interested in you? YES

Were her actions leading up to you asking for her number and asking her out indicative on a girl who likes a guy? YES

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Now here's where your steering off course and letting your mind take over your better judgment.

1) Yeah as others have said, no need to confirm a date on the day of....when a girl has high interest TRUST ME she is looking FORWARD to the scheduled date. So don't do that in the future, secondly if she doesn't have the curiosity to tell you she can't make it on her own, she's not worth your time.

2) She DID counter offer, by telling you should could hang out right then. Yes its spur of the moment, but that's a positive sign. However its also shows she runs on her schedule and hasn't been willing to "fit you in" as of yet. Too many newbies get TOO CAUGHT UP in following every "rule" they read here to the T. For example, "I couldn't say yes when she asked me to hang out right on the spot because then it would look like I don't have a life" blah blah blah.

Well guess what? If you don't have a life, if you aren't confident etc etc, she's going to find that out very soon. When she says she can't make it and then she counter offers and you say you can't make it (unless you truly cannot) you set up the cat and mouse game....in other words you make things way harder than they need to be.


3) Your next mistake was two parts.... a) asking her to dinner: that is so cliche and c'mon bro your 20 and she's 18. Do something EXCITING!!! Go rock climbing, play mini golf, do something FUN!! b) the next part of the mistake was asking her out so far in advance. If your going to remember any rules from this board, remember to only ask a woman out for a day or two in advance in the beginning. When you ask her out for the following week, unless she's already on your jock hardcore, she is highly likely to flake. Learn to set the situation up in YOUR FAVOR, not AGAINST YOU.

4) Lastly, get rid of this insecurity in your mind of having to ask her if your still on for Saturday etc etc etc. You might not realize it, but all your actions are screaming "I'm INSECURRRRREEE!" Which is definitely a turn off.


So how did you get in this situation????


Pretty simple actually, SHE did all the flirting and all you have done is asked her out. Which don't get me wrong is good, but you need to get her EXCITED to hangout with you, right now she's not.

Think about it this way...when you see a rad movie trailer for a summer blockbuster, it peaks your interest right? You might look up some info on the 'net, see who's in the movie, etc etc.

Well its no different when you flirt with a girl your attracted to......you gotta give her a taste, BUT you can't give her the whole cake.


So far from what you written, it does not seem like your flirting with her AT ALL. No humor, no teasing, no playful jokes etc.....these are the things that EXCITE women when they're around a guy they are already physically attracted to....it takes him from a good role player to Kobe Bryant status.


You need to work on two things: inner game (if you don't know what is, do a search and read up) and flirting 101.


As for how to proceed.....here's what I'd do.


Just flirt with her, tease her etc when you see her in class, try and get her EXCITED to see you. If you do this right, she will most likely ask YOU if your still on for Saturday night.

Also it might not be a bad idea to go mini golf or something active INSTEAD of dinner. When you get there, she'll be like WTF.....but just take her mini golfing or something similar and grab something to eat while your there, it will give you a much better chance to CLOSE since dinner is ALL ABOUT your conversation skills, which at this point seem to be lacking a bit.







PIMP

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Oh man... I can NOT believe I didn't realize this until you pointed it out. It just hit me like a ton of bricks when I read your post. I am not showing much interest in her anymore! I guess besides talking and smiling there hasn't been much flirting on my part. When I first met her there was some flirting though.

Last time I saw her she sat on the ground next to me and went on her laptop. She always gets to class early... because I do. But I mostly ignored her even though she asked me to sit with her. I guess I figured that I now need to play hard to get because she already said yes. I figured she would be more attracted to me if I ignore her a little...


Only recently have I come out of my shell after reading a PUA book. I haven't asked a girl out since 2007 and back then I didn't know how to act around a girl, so she totally ruined me. It was practically unrequited love. So yeah, I think I still have some of that fear of rejection in me, which is why I am afraid to flirt with girls. The book gave me confidence, but only in talking to girls.

I just saw this after my post above and its confirming my thoughts as well. Your not doing ANYTHING to get her excited to hang with you.

You CANNOT play hard to get with a girl when they don't know what they're missing. In other words, the only time ignoring a girl WORKS is when she has seen all you have to offer (looks, flirting game, charm etc) and then you TAKE THAT AWAY.

Right now, your not taking ANYTHING away, your still sitting by her and she's doing most of the "work" in your interactions.

Think of it as Marketing 101: To get consumers excited about a product it must be PRESENTED in a manner that shows only its best qualities. If you create that initial emotional spark and connect with the consumer (girl), then she's much more likely to over look any perceived flaws and focus on the good.


BE FUN, BE EXCITING, BE DARING!


Last thing I will say in this post is learn to flirt and talk about stuff that isn't boring sh*#. Women want to feel emotion and asking them about school or what they do on weekends won't cut it. Instead focus on them, tease them, flirt with them, playfully hit them (gently! LOL).


Alright hopefully your starting to understand how this works.











PIMP

 

[OC Speedball]

Wall of advice

Thanks for the advice man. I totally realized what I am doing wrong. I will definitely make an effort to flirt with her tomorrow.

So instead of confirming the date, should I just ask her to GIVE me directions to her house so I can pick her up Saturday night?

And also, yeah I know dinner is boring. But this girl lives next to a major amusement park, Medieval Times, and the Ripley's Believe it or Not museum. As well as a mini golf place. Basically she lives in tourist land. I am assuming she is bored of these places. If you lived next to a major amusement park would you want to go on a date there? What do you guys think.

Thanks again guys. I appreciate any advice.

 

[Iceberg]

So basically, it was a clear yes both times... but then her "schedule" is getting in the way. Is she playing hard to get? My friends are unsure what to think about it. Because they said it was good she said yes, but it was weird that she had to "check her schedule." She is also 18 and I am 20. My neighbor thinks she might be immature, spacey, or her dad is restrictive. I honestly don't know.

What do you guys think? And should I just ask her straight up "So how's Saturday night looking?" when I see her Wednesday?

There's certainly no harm in trying again. But just as a rule to live by, stop making excuses for women. Restrictive dad. Busy schedule. Playing hard to get.

The only "hard to get" a woman plays is when you're trying to bang her and she wants to pretend to hold out. Ya know...so she doesn't come off as a slut. There's no "hard to get" involved in setting the first date.

We're talking about an hour or two out of her week. It's not a 7-day cruise. No matter how her schedule is, or how restrictive her dad is, she should have an hour to spend with a guy she has sexual interest in.

So, hey. Try again...do whatever you want to do. But the interested girls who had to cancel plans with me, are the ones who rescheduled. I never just got some vague "I'll check my schedule and get back to you." It was "Can't make it Friday. Are you free Tuesday?" I think they had enough respect for my social life/schedule to know that you can either book me ahead of time, or you can get pushed to the back of the list.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Thanks for the advice man. I totally realized what I am doing wrong. I will definitely make an effort to flirt with her tomorrow.

Good stuff, now remember be gradual about it, don't just go from one end (not flirting at all really) to flirt-mania....

So instead of confirming the date, should I just ask her to GIVE me directions to her house so I can pick her up Saturday night?

Don't pick her up!!!!!! Okay let me quickly explain why. Girls want to like a guy they find attractive, clearly. But when he puts too much pressure on the "situation" it will become that much more awkward not only for him, but for her. In other words, make it as casual as possible...hence why were suggesting doing something "fun and exciting" rather than the dinner cliche. Secondly, when you pick a girl up it makes it seem like a "formal" date. In the beginning when you don't know a girl well you should always meet her at the said location, then as you get to know each other better, she is showing interest with her words AND actions (making time for you, kissing you etc), THEN picking her up won't be a big deal.

Remember first dates leave impressions, if its boring because the food sucked, or your conversation skills sucked, THIS is how she will label you. But if you stack the cards in your favor by doing something fun, you can cover up the fact that you might not be the best conversationalist and focus on having fun! Which is really the whole point of dating in the first place.


And also, yeah I know dinner is boring. But this girl lives next to a major amusement park, Medieval Times, and the Ripley's Believe it or Not museum. As well as a mini golf place. Basically she lives in tourist land. I am assuming she is bored of these places. If you lived next to a major amusement park would you want to go on a date there? What do you guys think.

Dude I'm from OC too and your WAYYYY over thinking this.... First of all you need to shift your thinking. Right now your so focused on PLEASING THE GIRL, that your forgetting how attraction works, or maybe you were never taught. There's a reason men are thought of as leaders, its because all women at a biological level want to be LEAD by a man. Then don't want to follow around a sissy boy who does everything for them and thinks that agreeing with her on mostly everything is the way to her "heart." No no no!!

Again I will re-iterate....to increase your chances of winning, put yourself in the best possible place for SUCCESS! That means home court advantage. If your really good at say bowling, take her bowling. Then you can tease her, flirt with her, LEAD the night and whoop her @ss in bowling. I always like to make little bets with girls I take on these types of dates. If I win you do something for me? The girl will always say "okay what do you want??" Then I have the ability to take it anywhere I choose. I can make it sexual, I can make it playful, the point is THESE are the types of things that get women EXCITED and INCREASE attraction for a guy. Its not that DINNER is a horrible date idea per say, its just that if you don't know how to seduce with your words, your gonna strike out. What your telling me right now is you know your best player isn't going to the plate when you need a run, your sending in your minor league call up and HOPING he makes you look good. Don't do things you THINK the woman wants, do things that make YOU look good. Would Kobe be confident if he wasn't soooo good at basketball? Of course not.... how can you be your most confident self at dinner, when you barely even talk to her in class?

Thanks again guys. I appreciate any advice.

Learn to set up situations so the girl wants to please YOU, right now its completely the opposite and that's not a good place to be.

And it doesn't matter if she lives by a mini golf place, TAKE HER THERE!!! Its ideal! She should want to go because she's going with YOU. Be confident in yourself and she will like you, if your unsure and trying to please her, she will pass.





PIMP

 

[OC Speedball]

Ok, so then how do you think I should go about dealing with the situation if I don't bring it up? That would look totally weird if I said NOTHING about the date, because I already asked her. I have to say something. Like, "So, Saturday night, right? I'll text you the directions." I think it would be awkward if I didn't mention it.

Or should I let her bring up the topic...and if she doesn't consider it called-off?

OR should I call/text her Saturday and give her the directions (to whatever location I choose)? Lol. Just ASSUME she's going basically.

And what would be a good way to change the location of the date without looking weak or spacey? Because I already asked her out to DINNER. Maybe I could give her directions to "dinner" but then when she gets there it's a mini golf place...?

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Ok, so then how do you think I should go about dealing with the situation if I don't bring it up? That would look totally weird if I said NOTHING about the date, because I already asked her. I have to say something. Like, "So, Saturday night, right? I'll text you the directions." I think it would be awkward if I didn't mention it.

I see your point, just tell her your text her the directions to the place when you see her in class....do it on the last class before the date is planned. So whether that's Thursday, Friday etc.

Or should I let her bring up the topic...and if she doesn't consider it called-off?

See above...

OR should I call/text her Saturday and give her the directions (to whatever location I choose)? Lol. Just ASSUME she's going basically.

See above...

And what would be a good way to change the location of the date without looking weak or spacey?

See this is where you gotta shift your thinking, your ASSUMING she will think it looks weak or spacey....it WONT! She'll probably be way more excited to play mini golf than sit at dinner. I know what your thinking....."what if she doesn't eat before and then we go mini golf??" Easy...just stop off after mini golf and grab something quick to eat.


Because I already asked her out to DINNER. Maybe I could give her directions to "dinner" but then when she gets there it's a mini golf place...?

LOL..... that's actually what I was thinking. When she gets there and is like "WTF??" You can be like "yeah I like to keep people on their toes, I call mini golf dinner." LOL Yeah lame, but it shows you have a personality.

PIMP

 

[blueline]

Just cut her loose, it's so god damn easy to meet other women that will meetup with you on the drop of a hat without any issues.

 

[blueline]

double post

 

[OC Speedball]

Thanks again Pimp! And hey, Orange County for the win!

 

[OC Speedball]

Ok, sorry if I'm keeping this thread going for too long. But I've learned so much from it and I am a noob after all. I'm soaking this stuff up like a sponge. And I have one last question (I hope)

So this girl said yes to a date with me for Saturday. But she said she had to check her schedule and get back to me. SO FAR I am "assuming the sale." Because she did say "yes" to the date, but neither of us brought it up when I saw her in class.

And I am pretty sure she didn't bring it up for the same reason as me... she has a friend in the class that is ALWAYS there. Just the most annoying friend (****block) you could possibly meet. I didn't mention this before, but it has gotten worse this past week. I had to pull her away from her (not literally) just to ask her to coffee the first time.

And on top of that, this friend is all over me. So I feel like she's saying **** about me behind my back to this girl because SHE wants me. Maybe I'm just being paranoid...

So anyways, at the end of class I said to her, "I'll text you Saturday." Because I plan on just texting her Saturday morning and saying, "Here are the directions for tonight. I'll see you there at 7." Basically assuming it was already a done deal.


So should I:

1) Call her and ask for a straight answer about Saturday

or

2) Just "assume" that it's a done deal, and text her the directions Saturday.



I feel like it might seem like I'm putting too much importance on the date if I call her. But I don't know. What do you guys think.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Just cut her loose, it's so god damn easy to meet other women that will meetup with you on the drop of a hat without any issues.

Did you even read the thread? Or are you too caught up in your alter ego world trying to convince yourself that running in the best method with every girl?


Edit: My bad, I'm the retard that didn't read the lastest reply....LOL Blue I owe you an apology, I was ASS-UMING that you were trying to spread your leave 'em quick attitude and I was wrong.


PIMP

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Ok, sorry if I'm keeping this thread going for too long. But I've learned so much from it and I am a noob after all. I'm soaking this stuff up like a sponge. And I have one last question (I hope)

So this girl said yes to a date with me for Saturday. But she said she had to check her schedule and get back to me. SO FAR I am "assuming the sale." Because she did say "yes" to the date, but neither of us brought it up when I saw her in class.

And I am pretty sure she didn't bring it up for the same reason as me... she has a friend in the class that is ALWAYS there. Just the most annoying friend (****block) you could possibly meet. I didn't mention this before, but it has gotten worse this past week. I had to pull her away from her (not literally) just to ask her to coffee the first time.

And on top of that, this friend is all over me. So I feel like she's saying **** about me behind my back to this girl because SHE wants me. Maybe I'm just being paranoid...

So anyways, at the end of class I said to her, "I'll text you Saturday." Because I plan on just texting her Saturday morning and saying, "Here are the directions for tonight. I'll see you there at 7." Basically assuming it was already a done deal.


So should I:

1) Call her and ask for a straight answer about Saturday

or

2) Just "assume" that it's a done deal, and text her the directions Saturday.



I feel like it might seem like I'm putting too much importance on the date if I call her. But I don't know. What do you guys think.

See the part I bolded above???


Well lets break that down in woman-speak.


What she really means is either:


a) "Yes I will go out with you on Saturday as long as something BETTER doesn't come up."

or


b) "I'm just going to say "yes" to you in person because I don't like hurting people's feelings, but where I said I have to "check my schedule" that's code for something WILL come up."


Bottom line, you don't have a date set in stone for Saturday, its highly likely that she flakes, calls and tells you she can't make or a more detailed excuse either way.


Think about it.... if a girl REALLY likes a guy and is interested in him, would she say she has to "check her schedule" to something she already agreed to? Probably not....when I a woman is interested in a guy she will make SURE she's free to see him.

Now young girls like that can't be game players, but from experience what I've found is if you do your job right, the girl will be into you and she won't be playing games.


Lastly, if you ever have a ****-block situation (girl or guy) you should always be-friend the obstacle to open the path to the target. If your giving off "I don't like you" vibes to her friend, she will obviously tell the target girl your no good, etc etc. Something to keep in mind and learn for the future.





PIMP

 

[Iceberg]

See the part I bolded above???


Well lets break that down in woman-speak.


What she really means is either:


a) "Yes I will go out with you on Saturday as long as something BETTER doesn't come up."

or


b) "I'm just going to say "yes" to you in person because I don't like hurting people's feelings, but where I said I have to "check my schedule" that's code for something WILL come up."


Bottom line, you don't have a date set in stone for Saturday, its highly likely that she flakes, calls and tells you she can't make or a more detailed excuse either way.

Yeah man. That's how I felt from the beginning of this thread. I couldn't imagine an interested girl replying to a date request with some vague "Let me check my schedule."

If a girl's interested, how could her schedule get in the way of a sexual prospect? I understand, we all have meetings, tests, jobs, etc. But okay...the interested girl will reschedule. Not just leave you hanging as she "checks her schedule."

I could be totally wrong, since I'm not physically there to evaluate things. But my instincts are telling me that a first date shouldn't be this hard to nail down.